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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 01:04 AM
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Ronald Reagan Called Son Michael "Schmuck"
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 01:05 AM by kskiska
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When Michael Reagan was a boy, his father called him "shmuck."

The love-starved youth was so proud and happy that his pop had bestowed a nickname on him he insisted everyone call him shmuck. Then he discovered what the word really meant.

Whether or not the future president realized he was calling his troubled boy the Yiddish equivalent of "jerk" is not clear. But the fact remains that the adopted son of Reagan and Wyman grew up bitter and angry. He was, at one point, so estranged from his father that he had to go through the White House staff to reach him.

Michael, 58, doesn't blame it all on his dad.

In his best-selling "On the Outside Looking In," Michael wrote of being molested by a camp counselor, of his confusion over being adopted, of his anger about being shuttled from boarding school to boarding school — and from parent to parent.

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But the event that nearly ruptured the relationship with his parents came when the Secret Service accused him of stealing knickknacks from the White House — a charge Michael denied.

more…
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001949930_family07.html
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 01:42 AM
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1. It appears that Reagans personal warmth

was all pretty much a Hollywood act.

On the other hand, it is uncanny how prophetic he turned out to be about Michael.
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oldshoe Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 01:45 AM
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2. Apparently, at Micheal's high school graduation...
...RR, the graduation speaker, introduced himself to everyone in the crowd, including Micheal, who told him "I'm your son."

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 01:46 AM
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3. shmuck is literally Yiddish for PENIS
read a Calvin Trillin article recently about it, and googled this

http://www.shambhalasun.com/Archives/Columnists/Peace&Justice/AMeyerJan99.htm

jerk is the euphemism

he was calling his son a DICK!

I heard that on Howard Stern today

Reagan also didn't even RECOGNIZE his own son at his high school graduation!

that's in Micheal's autobiography, too

no wonder he's such a loser, trading on his father's name

almost feel sorry for him

almost
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 01:47 AM
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4. he's was just crying on FOX, making up shit about growing up
Saying he had his first political discussion with his dad at age 8.

Then he started talking about how his father never said he loved him - until senility set in.

He's a horrid weasel, but man - you could see that there's a lot of pain there.

I wish he didn't take it out on us, though.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:02 AM
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5. fuck HIM! his father is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths
my brother goes to El Salvador every summer to help rebuild a village that was DESTROYED by soldiers trained under Reagan's aegis during the 80s.....his church is paying for most of it....one of the few examples of actual worthiness of organized religion I can think of.

half the people were slaughtered; not as famous as El Mozote, but there were plenty

that's the kind of thing assholes like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson SHOULD be doing, instead of getting rich by CAUSING mass murder from Central America to Africa to Asia

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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:04 AM
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6. no argument here....
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:08 AM
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8. I figured
but that smarmy crap just kills me, sts, when I think of what he got away with

and the fricking media is just POURING it on WRT what a great man he was

you should see the pictures from that village in El Salvador

dirt dirt poor.....relocated village out in nowheresville of elsalvador (imagine what THAT's like, for startrs)

they're trying to grow corn, but it's poor soil, wrong climate

they have one building in the village where everybody bathes/goes to bathroom

I should start a thread on that.....got a whole CDROM full of pics
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:07 AM
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7. I think Michael Reagan is soooooo full of shit!
seriously!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:09 AM
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9. he had the look of someone who believed his own lies
it was a hilarious performance, all this talk of spending time with his father. Uh huh.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:12 AM
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11. Oh I know...
And then that fact that he's so far to the right that he makes his "father" look like a socialist. :crazy: What a phony!
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:27 AM
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13. devilgrrrl
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 03:07 AM by buycitgo
cool website!



The Triumph of Death is in the Prado, same place as my favorite painting

Garden of Earthly Delight

you should read Leap, a book devoted to the author's experience revolving around her study of that painting

that Brueghel is stunning....just pulled up a big version of it here

.html

I LOVE those middle ages paintings

how much ergot did those guys ingest?

or what?

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:10 AM
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10. check THIS
twenty nine THOUSAND hits for this

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Reagan+El+Salvador+death&spell=1

News results for Reagan El Salvador death - View today's top stories
Dark Reagan legacy in Central America - Reuters - 9 hours ago
66 (Unflattering) Things About Ronald Reagan - AlterNet - Jun 6, 2004


El Salvador death squads
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:22 AM
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12. I went to college with a guy who's last name was Shmuck
I remember in a class when we were all introducing ourselves. He stood up and said "Okay let's just get this outta the way right now, my last name is Schmuck, so get over it quickly please"
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:30 AM
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14. Patty Davis said in her book
that she didn't even know she had an older brother until one day she came home from school and was informed that he was going to be staying with them for awhile. At that time Michael was a teenager and I think Patty was 10 or 12, she said that Michael was treated like crap, especially by Nancy.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:42 AM
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15. Yeah, Michael came to stay with them
but they gave him a broom closet of a room to stay in. Later, he noticed construction crews building an addition. When it was completed, the maid asked Michael to come see her new room. Michael got the maid's old room.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:49 AM
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16. For once, I agree with Reagan
Michael IS a schmuck
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