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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:31 PM
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Cornyn Gives Senate Stage to Judge Moore
Cornyn Gives Senate Stage to Judge Who Refused to Follow Law




The Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Property Rights, chaired by Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, is scheduled to hold a hearing today on “Hostility to Religious Expression in the Public Square.” Among the witnesses is former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who was dismissed from his office for refusing to obey a federal court order removing a Ten Commandments monument Moore had installed in the state judiciary building. Moore and his followers have been defiant, even though the U.S. Supreme Court has rejected his request to intervene on his behalf.

Lawbreaking Judge Celebrated by Some Religious Right Leaders, Political Allies

Roy Moore’s appearance says volumes about the misinformation likely to be peddled by some at the hearing. Moore, like other Religious Right leaders, either misunderstands or intentionally distorts the difference between protecting individuals’ freedom of religious expression and using the coercive power of government to proselytize or impose one religious viewpoint over others – which is what Roy Moore did repeatedly when he used his power as a judge to impose his religious beliefs on people seeking justice in the Alabama courts. The courts that have ruled against Roy Moore did nothing to reduce the ability of Americans to follow or promote the Ten Commandments or to worship according to the dictates of their faith and conscience; the courts acted only to protect individuals from having the government use its resources and power to endorse and promote a set of religious beliefs.

These facts have not prevented some Religious Right activists from trying to make Moore a folk hero and to use his case to build public support for weakening the separation of church and state. Unfortunately, distorting the truth about church-state separation and religious liberty is nothing new. For decades, Religious Right leaders and their political allies have wrongly claimed that the courts have thrown God/the Bible/prayer out of the public arena and public schools. Both claims are false. Public high school students are free to carry and read their Bibles, form Bible clubs if their school has an extracurricular club program, share their faith with friends, meet with other students to pray before school, say grace over lunch, and otherwise express their faith in ways that are not disruptive and not coercive to other students. What cannot be done constitutionally is to impose religious belief or practice on individuals in a captive audience setting like classrooms or at school-sponsored events – or courtrooms.



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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:39 PM
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1. If I defied a lawful court order I would end up in jail and or pay a huge
fine. Moore did none of those things. He lost his job. Whoop di do. I think he should have been charged with contempt of court and sent to jail. Why is it the right always loves the corrupt and criminal ones?
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:41 PM
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2. Sorry, I don't think I can be civil about this.
The very title of this hearing is so utterly infuriating, I can barely contain my anger.

“Hostility to Religious Expression in the Public Square.”???

I'm sending out a big :wtf: to you, Senator Cornyn.

I'm not hostile to religious expression in the public square.

I'm hostile to STATE-SPONSORED religious expression in the public square!!!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:55 PM
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4. Bingo!
"I'm not hostile to religious expression in the public square. I'm hostile to STATE-SPONSORED religious expression in the public square!!!"

Perfect reply to this nonsense.

Now it will be argued that, in this case at least, the Ten Commandments monument was purchased with private funds.

FINE, put it on private property, WHERE IT BELONGS.
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 04:52 PM
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3. For followers of governmental religions a religious government makes sense
For those who live under the thumb of a governmental religion, it's natural to want a religious government - they are the same thing. It's a consolidation that makes great sense to Judge Moore and his kind. Strict church-state separation is a system that religious zealots find inconvenient and inefficient.

This much is certain from history - when church and state become entwined, it is the state that dominates. The state will suck the life out of the church until it is nothing more than just another government agency - except that its bureaucrats wear funny clothes and hats.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:02 PM
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5. Cornyn war a horrible judge and atty general
Now he is carrying on that tradition by being a horrible senator. It was so sad when Ron Kirk lost to this idiot.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:05 PM
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6. Did you watch him today when Asscroft was grilled? Asscroft's face
just lit up when he saw Cornyn coming up to the "bat". He just praised Asscroft and said thanks to him for the wonderful job he has been doing. What a waste of oxygen and footprint on this earth...
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:06 PM
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7. Hallelujah Brother
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 05:08 PM
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8. Cornyn was a judge?
I thought his only title was Insurance Whore. He just happened to be sitting on the Texas Supreme Court at the same time.
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