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Tue Jun-08-04 05:32 PM
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Grover says: Reagan on $10 bill "will be approved within the week" |
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caught him while I was channel surfing, and he seems to think that it's a slam-dunk . . . says he has all the votes needed, and that he hasn't seen any opposition at all . . . think the Dems in Congress will sit back and allow this to happen during the Reagan canonization? . . .
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:34 PM
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1. BONZO BUCKS! BONZO BUCKS! |
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:35 PM
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2. There needs to be a cooling off period. |
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Doesn't someone have to be dead for a certain time before they can appear on a stamp? Should be the same way for currency. I also feel that should have been applied to JFK, though. He was a good president, but I don't know that he did enough to be featured on currency. But since his life was tragically cut short, people let the emotion of the moment override an honest historical assessment.
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:22 PM
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50. Stamps: 10 years, except presidents |
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The POTUS is eligible immediately upon his demise. Tricky Dick was on a stamp within a year.
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Tue Jun-08-04 08:37 PM
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60. Did you ever see the envelope |
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Tricky Envelopes put out?
"Tricky Envelopes
Tom Zajak originated the idea of comic news, using topical cartoons to relay news, with the Santa Cruz Comic News. Now, there are many such papers in cities across the country. So when Zajak got a hold of the Richard Nixon postal stamp, it inspired him to create an envelope depicting a jail cell so when the stamp was attached, Nixon appeared to be in prison (where he belonged?). The next thing he knew, Zajak’s Nixon envelope was being waved around on national TV by Dan Rather. Success with the Nixon envelope lead to his creation of a hemp field envelope with the American Flag stamp flying high, and Washington and Jefferson harvesting hemp utilizing an Iowa stamp. Finally, Zajak used hemp paper to create Hempelopes, and now he has six designs and a display case. What’s next? “Maybe I’ll make matching cards for our envelopes,” says Zajak."
Somebody will come up with an appropriate one for Reagan, I'm sure.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:36 PM
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My Goodness! Just think of all the creative bills that will be in circulation.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:36 PM
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3. Luckily, with issues like this, most states and the feds have specific |
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controls over making such drastic changes.
For example I co-wrote legislation for one city that requires ANY building or street re-naming cannot be done within a year of the person's demise, in order to assure that the intent stands the test of time.
Thus, in the passion and frenzy of reagan's demise, these nutter things are bound to seem like a great idea, but ultimately will literally be forgotten.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:39 PM
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4. Well, I would certainly push to have Bush on the $3 bill. I dunno |
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about Reagan on the $10. It seems it would be more appropriate to put him on a penny.
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:47 PM
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43. I want Bush on the $9-11 bill. n/t |
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:40 PM
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5. Yes...they will do it and the Democrats |
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won't say anything.
It's election year don't ya know.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:40 PM
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6. Horsehit! Norquist is a LIAR! |
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And if he isn't, I as a Free American behind the lines in Imperial Amerika REFUSE to spend money with the Handpuppet of Caeser on it!
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Tue Jun-08-04 08:48 PM
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Bravo!And I think the only difference of opinion we have regarding Imperial Amerika is that you think there's still hope, and I have my doubts (fast becoming certainties).
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:41 PM
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7. It's amazing that these same people who want to keep all their money |
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Are so willing to spend tax dollars on what they want.
Why did Reagan need such a grand send off? If he really wanted to be known for less government-- he would have said put me in a pine box and bury me in my backyard.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:43 PM
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8. grover can go fuck himself |
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:47 PM
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14. why do you think it will NEVER happen? . . . |
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you think Congress has some untapped well of courage that they'll bring out to oppose something Reaganesque during an election year? . . . not bloody likely, imo . . .
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:14 PM
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alpha-tax-cut monkey grover has no pull with the congress or the treasury department.
Secondly, I believe there might be an outcry against this sort of thing. Nancy said no dime, therefore I might suspect that she doesn't want ronnie on any money...
Thirdly, they'll have to settle for the traditional postage stamp... which probably be about as popular as the nixon postage stamp.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:43 PM
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9. If they do, we should put FDR on the $20 bill |
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:44 PM
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Why would HE rate that?? This is the biggest example of the type of bullshit that happens when the Democrats get lazy and lose both the House and Senate races for a few years! Those GOP M.F.s are doing anything they want.. what's next? Reagan on Mount Fucking Rushmore? How about Bush? The GOP is just soiling themselves over a republican that ACTUALLY managed to get re-elected. I guess, in their sad little lives, that is worthy of putting him on a bill. this is just ludicrous. Reagan was the beginning of the demise of our Country.. and Clinton saved us.. only to have Bush the Moran steal the election and trash it again.
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:03 PM
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Ronald McReagan Happy Meals(thanks, guys who do Top Ten) have been talked about.
:evilgrin:
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Tue Jun-08-04 09:48 PM
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71. A Ronald McReagan Happy Meal |
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will consist of 10 packets of ketchup and a Diet Coke.
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Tue Jun-08-04 09:56 PM
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72. And don't forget the dessert |
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A little packet of red, white and blue jelly beans :eyes:
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Tue Jun-08-04 10:36 PM
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77. But what kind of toy would they put in it? |
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I can't even imagine. Perhaps a miniature cruise missile. (Good one about the jelly beans.)
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:45 PM
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11. Let them try.. It's a win-win for us |
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Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 05:47 PM by tridim
If it doesn't happen (and it won't) they look like fools for trying, if it does happen we get to have our way with every $10 bill in circulation. I would guess that every $10 bill would be marked within a month. Not that I condone anything like that.
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:16 PM
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34. I'm already looking into prices of rubber stamps |
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:45 PM
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42. An opportunity to nuture the "inner artist" in us all, as it were... |
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Tue Jun-08-04 08:39 PM
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61. It's not actually illegal... |
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...unless you deface the bill in a way so as to make it unfit to be reissued. From the Bureau of Engraving and Printing website: http://www.moneyfactory.com/document.cfm/18/104
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Tue Jun-08-04 08:54 PM
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I always thought it was semi-illegal to write on currency. Apparently it's not illegal unless it's ripped or perforated, although "disfigures" is a fairly loose term. I take it you can write anything you want as long as it's still considered legal tender, which to me means anything short of shredding it to the point where a vending machine wont accept it. Good to know. :)
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:46 PM
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12. Nancy said NO publicly to Reagan's face on the dime |
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Will she speak up this time?
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:46 PM
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13. we need to resist ANY AND ALL attemps to canonize st. ronnie.... |
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...he doesn't deserve it. I refuse to let the repug revisionists rewrite history. Not going to happen.
Reagan is dead. Bury him and move on.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:48 PM
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15. Hell we're just lucky it's not James Jones the GOPers want to put |
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on our money! Besides, Reagan on our cash will only serve to remind that the American dollar is just about worthless anyway, just like Reagan was! We're the Yellow Dogs! They're the Mad Dogs!
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:48 PM
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16. Not a $10 will pass through my hand... |
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... that won't have something horrible drawn on the face of it. It will be the most abused currency of all time.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:50 PM
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17. reagan signed a bill saying 25 years has to be dead |
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before this can be done. are they gonna break another law
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:52 PM
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18. Then I will start defacing them on the eighth day. |
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does grover norquis run the nation?
fuck him.
just let them try to name a school after reagan in my neighborhood. 'don't need a weather man...' you know the rest.
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:03 PM
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And since the neocon shitbags seem to agree with him on damn near everything, he might as well.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:54 PM
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19. Um, is Norquist an elected official? |
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If not, then someone should be asking questions about which politicians are in his pocket and what their price is.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:57 PM
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"The proposal has the support of Ronald Reagan Legacy Project, which is headed by Grover Norquist, an influential conservative activist." SNIP "But GOP activist Norquist has said he has already had discussions with treasury secretary John Snow and senior White House staff about the idea, and found no opposition."
(linked in a post below)
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:54 PM
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20. Enough with the dead presidents... |
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US coinage was much more appealing back when it was Miss Liberty on all of it. I've always thought of the presidents thing as kind of tasteless.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:55 PM
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21. Democratic Party is weak and nearly worthless if this is true |
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Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 05:55 PM by Democat
The voters do not want doormats to represent them.
Democrats do themselves no favors when they let Republicans run wild.
The American people see the Democratic Party as weak. And they are right about that.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:58 PM
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26. based on something Grover Norquist says? |
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you judge the dem party by something that fuck says?
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:55 PM
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22. Link to the CNN poll and article |
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http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/08/news/economy/reagan_hamilton/index.htm?cnn=yesOne person opposed to removing Hamilton from the $10 bill is Ron Chernow, author of an acclaimed biography of the revolutionary war hero and founding father.
He told USA Today that he believed even Reagan would have objected to the snub of Hamilton.
"Hamilton was the prophet of the capitalist system that Ronald Reagan so admired," he was quoted as saying.
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Tue Jun-08-04 09:15 PM
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67. Here's what it would look Like |
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ooooo scary. The man hasn't even gotten ice cold yet and he is already being paraded around like he is jesus or something.
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Tue Jun-08-04 10:47 PM
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78. 55% of the 77,000 who have responded to the CNN poll have said "none" |
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Check out the poll results (but first, please vote "none"). The other 45% of the votes are divided between a dime (7%), the $10 bill (23%), the $20 bill (10%) or other (5%).
Add your vote then send results to those you love and your legislatures. We all know how they pay attention to polls.
Let's remembers Ronnies & Nancy's message "Just Say No!"
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:57 PM
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23. NOTHING should be named after or built or dedicated to ANY president |
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until ALL their papers have been available to the public for at least TWENTY-FIVE years.. That would allow all the truth to be available..
Can you imagine, how we would all feel if Watergate had not been revealed until AFTER Nixon had served his terms and had been regaled as a GREAT president..???
We have not even SEEN Reagan's papers yet.. Junior locked them out of sight..
It makes as much sense to put John Wayne on the $10 bill.. He was a famous actor of the same era..
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:32 PM
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...papers MUST be released before they can be memorialized. THe US taxpayer deserves to KNOW what their representatives are memorializing.
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Tue Jun-08-04 05:57 PM
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25. Sickening. Using the death as excuse. They tried for the dime |
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earlier but didn't succeed.
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:01 PM
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28. They might still get it |
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Coins don't need crongessional approval, only the Sec of the Treasury. The new proposal has it that, if they don't get the $10 bill, then half of all new dimes will have Regan's face, and the other half will have FDR's.
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:00 PM
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27. If it passes, we just need to start a massive defacement campaign. |
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:02 PM
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29. If they do, I'll never accept another $10 bill in change |
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36. Nah, we just need to get ink stamps... |
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...that have a dialogue bubble saying, "I armed Saddam and Osama."
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I decided that years ago when neocon dirtbag Norquist first started talking up this proposal
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:18 PM
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35. He heads up some group |
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that promotes the Reagan "Legacy". :puke:
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37. Grover Norquist is the most odious little fuck ever born. n/t |
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:29 PM
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39. Sounds like a real charmer. |
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:28 PM
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38. Will it say "I don't recall" under his face |
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on that ten dollar bill?
During his Iran Contra testimony he said "I don't recall" or "I don't remember" some 130 times.
Yeah, let's put him on the currency.
Maybe a jar of ketchup would be more appropriate.
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:35 PM
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41. I really could care less about who's on the $10 bill |
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Seriously, on my top 100 list of things to worry about that's #194.
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:54 PM
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44. Put Reagan on the $500 bill |
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make a new bill, put Ronnie on it. $500 would be perfect, since we need big bills to pay the debt he ran up in the 80's. Plus, large bills help the illicit drug and weapons trades, which HIS Administration was so fond of!!!!
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:57 PM
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45. More flapping of gums |
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won't happen.
NOTHING happens that quickly in Congress, NOTHING.
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Tue Jun-08-04 06:59 PM
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46. Reagan should be on the one trillion dollar bill. |
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He ran up over $1.4 trillion in deficits and added over $1.8 trillion to the national debt. That is about one-third of the total accumulated federal deficits since 1960 and about one-fourth of the total national debt.
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:03 PM
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47. Alexander Hamilton...who's he?? Oh...one of the FOUNDING FATHERS |
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Grover, you ignorant motherfucker.
I will immediately notify my reps and Senators to let them know how disgusting this idea is.
This is colossal bullshit.
Terry
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:05 PM
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49. Oh, what difference does it make. |
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We can put Bill Clinton on the 5 dollar bill.
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:26 PM
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51. I don't WANT Bill Clinton on any currency. |
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nor Reagan. I like my currency just fine as it is.
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:28 PM
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52. No president should bump another president from any bill. |
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:43 PM
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53. not all of them are presidents |
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Alexander Hamilton is on the $10 bill. He was the first Secretary of the Treasury, the co-author of the Federalist Papers, practically invented the New York Stock Exchange, and was Washington's very own Rove.
Hamilton should NEVER be replaced on the currency because of his historic status.
Reagan isn't even fit to be on TP.
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:50 PM
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54. If St. Ronnie HAS to be on the currency |
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I would prefer it to be paper money than coinage (much easier to deface that way)
I suggest the billion dollar bill in remembrance of the fiscal responsibility he showed when tripling the national debt.
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Tue Jun-08-04 07:51 PM
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55. This DOES matter! It's part of the right's attempt to revise our history.. |
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and co-opt our national symbols. It's effing Stalinist! (Doesn't Norquist have a picture of Stalin on his office wall?) They want everything -- our schools, our churches, our media, PBS, NPR, our currency, our history.
Most Americans are probably ignorant of the essential role played by Hamilton in the founding of our country. He earned his place on the ten. History may judge that Reagan deserves a place among our national symbols, but it is way too soon to know.
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Tue Jun-08-04 08:17 PM
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56. Okay...How do we boycott the 10 Bill. Reject it at the Grocery Store? |
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Ask for 10 bills instead of the 10 buck? How can we stop this disgusting Reagan Orgasm?
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Tue Jun-08-04 10:24 PM
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75. Fergawdssake...hand it back to them and ask for change. |
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Tue Jun-08-04 08:21 PM
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57. Don't boycott Reagan $10's...deface them. |
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"I armed Saddam and Osama."
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Tue Jun-08-04 08:25 PM
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58. Ababap! tooooo far... |
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I'll petition it and hopefully all of us will stop this from happening...if they want him on money so bad just introduce the $25 bill or something honestly...
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I don't particularly want to see Reagan on the $10 bill myself...and I'm sure the spineless Democrats in Congress will go along with it, just like they do everything else that has to do with Reagan. But why can't they produce both Reagan 10's and Hamilton 10's. Is there any law that says you can't have two different faces on the same denomination ?
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81. NO! Reagan deserves to be honored on toilet paper, nothing more |
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screw the Republican pukes, I wouldn't compromise on this dumb issue at ALL.
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Tue Jun-08-04 08:48 PM
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65. May Grover the Toad soon be with his beloved Reagan |
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I won't use the 10's.
Why honor someone who could have been generous with the non-rich people, who could have avoided Iran-Contra, who could have been honest about the communist fighting propaganda, who reversed environmental progress, whose administration was involved in deaths of innocents - thousands and thousands who didn't live to 93, and someone whose staff pulled off one of the dirtiest political tricks of the 20th century with the Jimmy Carter hostage plan.
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Tue Jun-08-04 09:44 PM
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69. He will be canonized before weeks end. Two words: Iran/Contra |
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Criminal bordering on treasonous.
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Tue Jun-08-04 09:47 PM
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70. Fine, let'em. Every REagan bill that passes through my hands will |
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be stamped with "Hey, at least the evil old fuck is DEAD!"
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Tue Jun-08-04 10:09 PM
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73. What's the difference? |
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Hamilton was an obnoxious, anti-democratic son of a bitch too. How many dead presidents on our bills DO you like?
1 - Washington. A man of pure integrity. Aces in my book. 2 - Jefferson. Both an idealist and a pragmatist. The brains behind the Republic. 5 - Lincoln. Divisive, had his faults, but did preserve the Union. 10 - Hamilton. A Federalist with an aristocratic streak. Would have prospered in the Bush Admin. 20 - Jackson. Ignored the Supreme Court and forced the Cherokee, Creek, Seminole, etc. on the Trail of Tears. Racist. Fucker. 50 - Grant. Drunk. Corrupt. Did I mention drunk? 100 - Franklin. Not a president, but an important Founder. Odd bird, but good. 500 - McKinley. Corporatist. Like Bush. Say no more. 1000 - Grover Cleveland?!? Oh well, at least he made a comeback against Harrison, who stole the election. 5000 - Madison. A stand-up kind of guy who defended our nation sensibly. Like John F. Kennedy. Or John F. Kerry. 10,000 - Chase. Supreme Court Justice who presided over Andrew Johnson's impeachment trial. Pretty obscure, eh? 100,000 - Wilson. An idealist, deeply flawed, but a good man.
Maybe let Reagan adorn the 10,000. That way, only the people who loved him best ever have to look at him.
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Tue Jun-08-04 10:19 PM
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my marker pens. What kind of mustache would look good? Crossed eyes?
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Tue Jun-08-04 10:28 PM
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76. It's against the law to deface 'murikan money. |
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Yes, I know many do, and no, no law enforcement agency seems to have made this a lawbreaking priority, however, do you want to be the first? No telling what dopey track Mr. Ashcroft might head in if he feels St. Ronnie isn't being treated with proper respect.
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Wed Jun-09-04 05:14 AM
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earlyer up someone posted its not illegal to deface money as along as it can be reissued and a link from the bureau of engraving and printing. I seen money stamped with rubber stamps before.
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it is illegal only to make it illegible/unuseable. as long as the bill is intact and the denomination and other identifying information clearly visible, there is nothing illegal about it.
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Tue Jun-08-04 11:01 PM
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79. Nancy said "no" to the dime... |
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she'll say "no" to this too. If the Pukes keep this up I believe they are going to get an earful from her, IMHO.
I can't wait until she asks all of these Pukes who are glorifying Ronnie if they are willing to support stem cell research to show their true affection for him!
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