There's not a Republican dry eye in the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joanne98]

What an ending. Nancy wouldn't leave the casket. booooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooo I bet they're sobbing over at Freeperville. Do ya think this will make them HUMAN??????????? HELL NO!!!!!!!!
No mercy for the evil. The show is over. Monday it's back to the torture story. So all you freepers cry now and practice up cause your going to be crying allot more in a little while. Bravo to Nancy. What an ending. God Bless President Kerry. :)

[TahitiNut]

1. They held the pose as long as the cameras kept clicking.

That was the most contrived, self-indulgent piece of posturing I've seen outside of the current madministration. The Pseudo-Jock-In-A-Box has been dragged back and forth and put on display for six freaking days(!!!) after being a vegetable for ten years ... and Nancy has to lie on the coffin every time the cameras are clicking? Gimme a freaking break. Disgusting posturing.

[Joanne98]

3. You got to hand it to them though

What a performance. They almost had me crying, until I remembered who they were, or what they where. I know someone is going to say I'm being (insert insult here) so I'll make a deal. If Nancy takes up the torch for stem-cell research I'll lay off.

[madrchsod]

9. as soon as she gets her strength back

that little lady is going to make sure little georgie pays for pickles shitting on nancy`s crusade stem cell research tuesday morning on cnn...

[never_get_over_it]

4. Nancy's actions

were not contrived what possible motive could she have for that - is she going to run for something at 83, now Michael's that is another story he pushed right in there to get on camera

[Joanne98]

11. What possible motive?

To put the perfect ending on a great love story. It's a movie to her. She's had years to prepare for this day. Pleeeeeeezzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeee Sometimes I think Americans can't tell the difference between truth and reality. Maybe Nancy can't either.

[kentuck]

32. I agree Joanne...

This was Nancy's chance to show that she can play a role. Even the news has reported that they scripted this funeral since at least 1981, his first year in office. That may be good or bad, but the world was a stage for Ronnie and Nancy saw to it that his final performance would be his best.

[Zinfandel]

34. Remember they are ALL lying filthy, disgusting, greedy motherfucking

Republicans...media controlling fascist assholes. These selfish racist homophobic, poor-hating, cocksuckers, don't give one shit about you or me...get it through your fucking heads, now, before you go back to watching some more TV.

The slime are just positioning themselves to fuck us over even more, this republican one party rule in this country, as these poor fucks watch and wallow in sympathy for a pig of a man, an ignorant, cold bastard...these fascist fuckers have already figured out the best way to exploit us bleeding hearts...cold-hearted conservative pieces of shit!

I sure you understand how I feel about this Nancy crap!!!

(Just recall the corporate-deregulating , greedy, lying environmentally destructive, union bashing, elitist, Reagan administration, if you need a reminder).

[never_get_over_it]

35. Please don't hold back

you're right how stupid of this bleeding heart to have a little empathy for an 83 year old woman who just lost her husband - what was I thinking....

I know the funeral was staged and planned - and believe me everyone of the former President's funerals will be staged and planned. I do not believe Nancy's grief was staged and even though I agree with you that the Reagan administaation was corporate-deregulating , greedy, lying environmentally destructive, union bashing, elitist, I can still show some empathy for an old grieving woman.

[Zinfandel]

36. We're all so proud of you...The fucker died many years ago...

that's what the disease does, (a zombie, for lack of a better word) wearing diapers for the past ten years and progressively getting mentally & physically worse each passing day, seems a bit too much to ask this bleeding-heart to accept...This eight full days of shock, sobbing and overwhelming grief...Death of a loved one is something one will never get over, I'm quite aware and familiar with this...But come on, what a surprise and a shocker, huh? Let's get real, get a brain and look at the bullshit and the way it's being play for all it's staged, mechanical emotions!

I have refuse to watch television "news" and their staged political events, (like this funeral) for almost two years now...So I'm a hard sell, I only go by the facts alone, (as I have them), Certainly not television "news" selling me bullshit.

I once opened the door for Nancy, I was staying at the Beverly Hilton and my friend was taking forever getting down from our room so I was heading up to see what was taking her so long, And as I opened the door coming down the lobby, Nancy Reaga, she is walking with two stylishly dressed older women. I held the door open for them, Nancy gave me a nice big smile and the Secret Service was giving me the old stink eye (I was surprised the SS weren't already on the door)...Apperently, Nancy was there for a "City of Hope" gathering...I decided to watch the goofy SS, the clowns that they were, so I walked over to this big gold Rolls Royce, leaned against it, and watched the SS as they ushered Nancy into a Cadillac limo.

Nancy's tinted window comes down in the limo, she give me another smile as I'm leaning against someones Rolls, so I wave to like we're old friends and she waves back and off she went. Now the fun part was watching these two rich old snob women, whispering to one another, wondering who I was, and giving me such dirty looks of jealously and distain...It was hilarious and worth the wait for my friend, which I forgot all about, until she walked out and saw me laughing.

I have nothing against Nancy, just the complete republican circus, the put on bullshit that she is a part of...let's get real here!!!

[PeaceForever]

38. Post of the day

I agree with you 100%.

[Zinfandel]

39. Yes, what a surprise & shocker, huh? He's still dead...

[TahitiNut]

16. Nonsense ... she's a wannabe Norma Desmond.

That whole tableau was probably rehearsed. Perfectly angled for the camera, both the individuals and where they arranged themselves at the Jerk-In-The-Box. Patti carefully pulls her hair back on the camera (left) side so the photos come out better. None of them placed an arm, a hand, or their heads in the way of the cameras. "Comfort" wasn't their goal. It was rehearsed -- badly as well. They're shitty actors.

[BillZBubb]

5. One slight correction

should read "being a vegetable for 25 years", not 10.

[never_get_over_it]

2. Well you know this Dem

was almost in tears for her - for God's sake she is an old woman - lost the love of her life - even if you/we didn't like them can't you understand that loss and feel some compassion for her.

[bluedog]

6. I also was in tears

something about "taps" and Amazing Grace" gets me every time......I do wish some one would have shoved the cameras clicking away.you know where

[KAZ]

7. I know what you're saying.

Somehow, I know she's not using it for any political gain, but the fucks that are currently in the Repug party will, Nancy be damned. Still, I might caution you to temper your grief with the tens of thousands in SA who were killed at Ronnie's bequest.

[never_get_over_it]

13. Oh I was screaming at the tv

when his children were saying how great he was - thinking of all the people dead because of him. I'm just saying I think Nancy really loved the guy and she is old and on a human level you have to feel some compassion and respect for her loss. I have no grief for his passing just sympathy for an old woman's loss - even though I never really liked her - sorry I'm just that type of person.

[Mizmoon]

8. I don't know why you people are watching it

I've been watching Star Trek.

[Joanne98]

12. So have we. This is Star Trek

The next generation.............

[RowWellandLive]

10. Wow, that was harsh

I don't think that Nancy was acting. She obviously loved the man and watched him slowly slip away for ten years. As for Freepers, they may be mostly wrong and misguided, but they are humans. Well, most of them anyway.

I don't think Reagan was evil. Nor do I think most Republicans are. They have their views and we have ours. I truly feel that both sides want what's best for the majority.We just disagree on basic philosophy and how to get there.

We are all human beings capable of love, loss, and suffering. Nancy has gone through aloft. I sympathize and grieve with her and her family. Comments like yours are callous.

[Joanne98]

14. Nancy blurred the lines between Hollywood and Earth

a long time ago. I'm sure her emotions were real but she WAS being a little "drama queen" no? She just couldn't help it. That happens when you've been on stage too long. As for freepers......NO they aren't human and they don't consider you human. You should remember that.

[RowWellandLive]

27. "Drama Queen?"

After 10 years of watching her beloved husband slowly slip away I doubt that the drama was fake. She went trough a lot and is a human being.

As for the Freepers, I still consider them humans no matter what they think of me. I do believe that the vast majority of them are just everyday people we see in the grocery store. They are mostly ordinary folks just trying to get by who happen to have different views on the best way to get there. Most are not evil and do consider me human. I truly believe that and despise the hate on both sides.

[unkachuck]

19. I'm not sure the Repubs want the best....

for the 'majority'....I think most Dems want the best for the 'majority' but I feel the Repubs want the best for their chosen few....and the rest of us can hang around for the 'trickle'....

Besides, can you imagine Nancy changing Ronnies diapers and 'hosing' him down a couple times a week by herself, come on,.....she and Ronnie had the BEST of everything....more than I can say for what most of us will have....

[RowWellandLive]

29. Even with the best of everything

She still suffered immensely, and for very long time. I cannot forget that.

[Zero Gravitas]

15. I was in tears

and I'm no Republican. I detested the Reagan Administration, but, unlike many Republicans, I can still see political enemies as human, and I felt really bad for Nancy tonight.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

17. I was as well and I'll never be

a Repuke. I detested the Reagan administration, but for God's sake, Nancy was saying good-bye to her husband of 52 years. Cut her and the kids some slack.

[Joanne98]

20. I said if she fights for stem cell research I'll forgive

If fact I may even cry. She has enough power in the party to beat the fundies on that issue. If Nancy does something good for the world I WILL CRY. I guess I'm too cynical to cry at funerals anymore.

[ronnykmarshall]

18. Thank you

and if crying makes me less than a text book liberal than so be it. I don't give a flying fuck about the what I am "supposed" to feel. I am didn't support Reagan when he was President, but I sure as hell won't tap dance on his coffin.

His four kids are from all walk of the politcal landscape and regardless what we have read, the surviving children paid tribute to their dad better than any political leader could have.

God knows my family wasn't Ward and fucking June Cleaver either. But I love them.

[TahitiNut]

21. It's no wonder that Bush can fool people ...

... if so many DUers were duped by that rehearsed little tableau for the cameras. How many times does that make the little ol' Nancy had to rehearse the "lie on the coffin scene"?? The kids hit their marks, for sure. Camera angles were just right. :eyes:

She did it at the funeral home last weekend.
She did it at the Reagan Liebury at the beginning of the week.
She did it in the Rotunda.
She did it again tonight.
(sheesh!)

How many times did it take until the pictures came out right?


"All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up." (Norma Desmond)

[never_get_over_it]

22. Let me tell you a litte story and maybe you will understand

Last year my Great Uncle died almost three months after his 100th birthday. The man was close to 60 when I was born so he was always old to me and we talked about him making it to 100 for as long as I can remember - and I believe he held on for that. I almost did not go to his 100th birthday party because he was in another state, it was a long drive and I believed he wouldn't remember soon after I left that I was there. However out of respect and love for him - he was my favorite relative I went and it was one of the BEST things I have ever done. It was so cool to celebrate his 100th birthday and as it turned out it was the last time I ever saw him. I was torn for several years probably his last 5 if it would not be better for him to pass - his quality of life was not too great although I don't think he suffered...just slept alot. When I got the call that he passed I cried not alot or hysterically but I was sad - I always had an Uncle Ralph and now I didn't. We had to wait several months to burry him because of the frozen ground - so some time went by before I went to his funeral. I have to tell you I cried alot - way more than I ever expected. I cried because I was saying goodbye forever to someone I loved very deeply and had always been a part of my life. Even though I knew in my head it was best my heart still hurt.

I tell you this story to have you think a bit about Nancy's reaction. I think you will agree her biggest display of the week was the last one - and that is because she was saying goodbye forever to a man she loved very deeply and was married to for over 50 years. I was not duped by her - you are just entirely too cynical and frankly too harsh.

I was so pissed at the criticism of the Wellstone memorial and frankly I'm getting pretty close to being pissed at the criticism of Nancy Reagan's displays of grief. This was her husband's funeral she has the right to grieve anyway she damn well pleases - just as the Wellstone sons had the right to have the memorial service they wanted.

[Norquist Nemesis]

23. Well said. *applause*

(sorry about your uncle)

As much as I disliked the Reagan years, a widow and the family still have a right to grieve. She has been put in the public eye which she's been away from for years. The Reagan's election, for better or worse, they both became owned by the American people and the non-stop display of this past week has been out of her hands.

I've stayed away from all of the hoopla as much as possible. I'd be crying my eyes out for her if I'd watched (hell...I cry over some commercials and when the band strikes up Pomp and Circumstance!). She's been spending time remembering with friend and foe a man that has been lost to her for a number of years. Her grief is genuine and she shouldn't be chastised for her feelings.

[never_get_over_it]

26. Thanks

and by the way I cry at commercials - ever see the I think Maxwell House where "they" bring a Christmas tree to an old woman - or the one where the son comes home and surprises his Mother for Christmas - I cry my eyes out when I see them - lol....

[TahitiNut]

30. The comparison to Wellstone is BOGUS

Paul Wellstone, his wife, a daughter, and five others were killed suddenly in a suspicious plane crash on a Friday. They were all buried by the following Monday! (That's 3 days, for those who can't count.) They had private funerals. On the following Tuesday, because of enormous interest, they held a Memorial Service ... for seven people tragically and unexpectedly ripped from the lives of their family, friends, supporters, and coworkers. Republicans were invited speakers. It was carried on one channel due to popular demand across the country - a demand that went unfulfilled. (In total, the nation got less than 5 hours of "live" coverage on a single channel.)

The Wellstone Memorial Service was used by the same posturing reichbots that're using this week's Jerk-In-A-Box for partisan political gain ... and then they point the fingers at others! A whole week for RonnieBeatification on all the corporate channels (ABC, CBS, NBC, POX, CNN, MSRNC, CRNC, CSPAN, etc.) is noxious, disgusting, partisan bullshit.

Nancy was doing a Norma Desmond. No question about it. (Maybe it's her habitual way of coping: get a 'supply' from the cameras.) It was staged.

And if I see that DimSon Sack of Poppy Puke posture from a pulpit to a congregation and a national audience one more time I'm going to smash the TV. That detestible bag of vomit comes closer to indicating there is no God than almost anything I've seen - since lightening didn't strike his sorry ass.

[never_get_over_it]

31. You have so completely missed the point

of my mentioning Paul Wellstone's Memorial...I wasn't comparing it to the Ronald Reagan all the time extravaganza of the week - which by the way I hardly watched at all until Friday - and I watched it on Friday because like it or not it was an historical event. My point was I hated how people criticized the Wellstone Memorial and I'm not too fond of how people are cirticizing Nancy and accusing her of faking her emotions at the loss of her husband.

Now even though we didn't like the 6 days - the man was President and I think him laying in state at the Capitol rotunda is perfectly acceptable and since he was from CA I think it was appropriate for him to lie in state in CA. Since these two spots are on either side of the Country it takes some time to do all this. I believe with the exception of GW any of our former Presidents deserve the right to a state funeral - even if I don't like them. I make the exception for GW because he was not elected.

It is unfortunate that the same freaks that used the Wellstone Memorial for their political gains are doing the same with the Reagan funeral - but I will not give up my humanity for these disgusting people.

You sound very angry and so am I but I refuse to give up my compassion because of it. You stated if you had to see Dim Son Sack of Poppy Puke posture from the pulpit...my suggestion to you is turn off the T.V. Reagan's death is too far away from the election for GW to make any gains from it and since Reagan's son slammed him - it is even less likely.

I don't know if you have ever lost anyone you love, but it is sad and heartbreaking. I am sorry your anger is clouding you ability to show empathy.

[mitchum]

24. Kicking this forTahiti Nut's posts...

You sir, are not swayed by cheap theatrics (even from "wannabe Norma Nesmonds") :)

[Skittles]

25. it's the end of their "revolution"

and they f***ing know it.

[brook]

28. I hope you will...

never lose anyone you love, ever. I wouldn't like to think you'd get the same measure of understanding as you have given here.

[Fla Dem]

33. It's difficult for me to understand people who rejoice

in another's suffering.

I thought that was one of the main differences between liberals and conservatives.

[beachman]

37. the hidden hand of Karl Rove?

Nah, but the timing is fortunate for Bush. We have several full days of the religious right being depicted as the saviours from communism and the malaise of Jimmy Carter.

Maybe that's a stretch, but still it was an incredibly pro-Republican and Bush-family event that although somewhat non-partisan was unmistakably Christian and directed to uplifting America as the moral light of the earth against the godless, heathens, pagans, or whatever.

Couldn't hurt Bush. We'll see what the polls show.

[Zinfandel]

40. You've hit something there.