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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:35 PM
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Rove focus group to Connect Bush and Reagan fall flat
With the Ron Jr. threads and whether Bush would try to use this event opportunity as campaign propaganda...guess what!

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4667.shtml

“They’re disgusting,” says one long-time Republican who participated in a focus group to preview the new television ads. “They dishonor the memory of Ronald Reagan and if President Bush allows these ads on the air I, for one, will not vote for him in November.”

The ads, ordered up by Bush political advisor Karl Rove immediately after Reagan’s death last Saturday, use images of Reagan and excerpts from his speeches in what one angry GOP conservative describes as a “callous attempt to tie George W. Bush to the legacy of Ronald Wilson Reagan.”

One proposed ad even goes so far as to show Reagan saying “George, go out and win one for the Gipper.” The clip comes from Reagan’s speech to the 1988 Republican National Convention where the former President’s request was to Bush’s father, George H.W. Bush, in his successful 1988 run for President.

“I cannot believe our party would stoop to using Mr. Reagan’s memory for such political gain,” says another Republican who has heard about, but not seen, the ads. “This goes way beyond any moral or ethical bounds.”

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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:36 PM
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1. i was under the impression
that,that site was for satire.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:24 AM
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10. Could be...but it's the same site
the has the article about Bush's erratic behavior making staffers uneasy. :shrug:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:26 AM
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12. Not satire... as much as a Capitol Hill "gossip" source
staffers on the hill tend to pass on tidbits. Sometimes the items go somewhere... but often it is a good read on the current capitol "hearsay."

The site is run by a Libertarian who used to be very supportive of bush... during the runup to the war, (perhaps earlier) he began to take a more and more critical stand against this White House.
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:42 PM
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2. I have a sneaking suspicion
of Rove's master stroke. I think they have plans to uproot the body from Simi valley, complete with similar plane flight to NY in September where Reagan would be laid in state again at the Republican convention, complete with the military pomp and pageantry and all.

Just wait and see. Dont say I didn't give you a heads-up.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:25 AM
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11. LOL
On ice and he will be risen. Hey...was Reagan in the coffin? :b
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:46 PM
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3. I can smell Rove's desperation from here.

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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:47 PM
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4. I'm not the only one who thought these pukes...
would use a line like this:

"“George, go out and win one for the Gipper”.


Sorry SOBs.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:51 PM
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5. What do you want to bet
they'll use the ads? "Stay the course" even if Niagara Falls is coming up.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:31 AM
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17. They just might use them in target specific markets.
We'll just have to wait and see. *making note to check LBN more often*
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:53 PM
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6. Reagan's Sainthood working against Republicans!
Odd, isn't it? He's become such an icon to these people that he is "above" politics.

Of course, these same people don't mind invoking Jesus as a campaign issue, but Reagan--how dare they politicize his image????
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:29 AM
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14. Yes...if it's true, they've dug their own grave on this one. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:53 PM
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7. asslicker hannity was trying
to hitch his wagon to the reagen`s death bandwagon..ol`e sean will fuck anything or anyone to get to rush`s level of asslicking...
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:11 AM
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8. It blew up in their faces before it ever got off the ground!!!
"As anger towards the proposed ad campaign builds, GOP leaders are urging the White House to scrap the campaign and destroy the ads before they become public. One longtime GOP consultant told Rove he was a “goddamned idiot” for even considering putting the ads on the air."

and

Former First Lady Nancy Reagan has sent a message to the White House expressing her “extreme displeasure” at any attempt to use her late husband as a campaign tool in the Presidential campaign.

“That doesn’t surprise me,” says a GOP operative who served in the Reagan White House. “Nancy doesn’t like President Bush. If he’s smart, he’ll tell Rove to burn the ads. George W. Bush doesn’t want Nancy Reagan as a public enemy.”
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:28 AM
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13. Do you think their listening?
I think Rove's going to do whatever the hell he wants and keep the fundies hyped. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Yeah, that's the ticket. :puke:
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:12 AM
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9. You Mean Rove Can't "Wellstone" Today's Funeral?
Ohhhhhhhhhh - DAMN AND BLAST!

(Thanks, Ron, Jr.!)
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:30 AM
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15. Oh PLEASE... just let Rove force him to run JUST ONE....
.. and have the wrath of Nancy and Ron Jr turned loose on them...

PRETTY PLEASE!!! Just RUN ONE!!!

or make some connection during a speech at the convention...

PLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

I wanna see Ron Jr go balistic on Shrybua's butt...
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:31 AM
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16. Of course it did.
All this week did was show the godfather of konservatism in all his glory, his life and persona shining through. Contrast that with the bumbling fool in the WH now. The comparison should've hit home with all but the most jaded right-winger.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 12:34 AM
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18. The comparison on draws one conclusion....
INCOMPETENCE!
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