Fighting by the rules the G.O.P. wrote, is NOT sinking to their level

[mopaul]

when liberals grow spines and fight back hard against assholes like rush and his followers, there are always liberals on the side shouting, 'don't sink to their level', 'don't become them', etc., and the scolding begins.

the rupublinazis WROTE THE NASTINESS RULES, under gingrich and reagan and bush and bush, and when we liberals play by the rules according to the rush, they call us nasty and hateful. ha ...ha...ha..and fucking ha.

we MUST fight hard, and if we use some of their rules of nastiness, so be it, they can dish it out, but they go all girly when it's thrown back in their faces.

and now, that they threaten the entire world with virulent nastiness, WE SHOULD ALSO GET NASTY.

fuck them, they don't OWN nastiness. we got some too. and we are whippin it out.

[Must_B_Free]

1. Does that mean we're Pro Torture?

The ultimate GOP postion is to be Anti-Abortion and Pro-Torture, because we wouldn't have anyone to torture if allowed more abortions.

[mopaul]

2. i'm pro torture, regarding neocons

they changed the rules of engagement and threw out the geneva convention. now OUR sons and daughters will be tortured and humiliated and worse. and we will be so angry and righteous when it happens.

don't you just love em? JESUS HIMSELF approves of torture now

[Nlighten1]

12. Mo Paul for President!

[Norquist Nemesis]

19. Our mere existence is torture for them,

in other words...it's all Clinton's fault.

[slor]

3. Amen!

I am getting tired of the kid glove treatment as well. If we wait long enough to fight back in kind, for fear of becoming like them, we may already be dead. Fuck them and theirs, We are taking it all back this year! BEEYOTCH !

[DemExpat]

4. It IS a cultural war....so you are right,

but I would rather see Dems tough, hard-fighting, and honorable.
Not fighting by THEIR rules necessarily.

I personally like Wesley Clark's style.
I often see him standing his ground and dishing it out with style.:loveya:

Michael Moore is great too....:evilgrin:

DemEx

[mopaul]

5. i like clarke's evenhandedness too. i don't have that in me

so you don't want me for v.p. i'd vote for kerry/clarke in a second.

[DemExpat]

6. Same here....I don't have that talent either!

But it definitely is a talent sorely needed now more than ever.

DemEx

[Beearewhyain]

7. I agree with you but...

much of what they have done in their arguments have been based on memes they have put out there. Whether it is "liberal media" or "democrats are anti American", it is largely an exercise to rally the base(d). The problem is that they have had so long to run unopposed that many believe that they are respectable. Add to this that the political spectrum for many has been moved to the right based on ridiculous assertions from the right about the left makes our job harder. Ultimately, much of the responsibility resides with us. What have we done to try and convince those who would best benefit from our positions that it is THEIR best interest to follow our ideology. Simply believing that we have the "truth" and if we say it long enough, they will come on board has not worked. The sad fact is, YES, we do have to fight fire with some fire, but we also have to have our wits about ourselves and come up with a way to make that "truth" real to those who haven't realized it yet.

[Wapsie B]

8. I still say

if we had a group that stood up against the Florida goon squad that stopped the recount maybe we'd have already sent the chimp back to Crawford.

[dbt]

9. !

:evilgrin:
dbt

[Arianrhod]

10. Never give a Republican an even break.

Apologies to WC Fields.

[elperromagico]

11. We have a weapon on our side that they don't seem to have:

Humor. And people like Michael Moore, Al Franken, Molly Ivins, and so many others use it and use it well.

Sometimes the best way to get someone to think about an issue in a new light is by getting them to laugh about it; it serves to let a person's guard down. That's why a program like The Daily Show is so great; it gets people to think about the absurdity of a situation or a person.

As Al Capone said in The Untouchables: "We laugh because it's funny and we laugh because it's true."

[StephanKetz]

13. I have a question

What does the shortcut GOP stand for, and further, what does it mean? Thanks!

[Cheswick2.0]

14. goofy old poopheads

Just kidding, it really stands for Greedy Oligarchy Party.

Grotesque Old Perverts?

[Cheswick2.0]

15. it is not about rush or anyone on the right and what they think

It is about poisoning ourselves with our own toxin.
I don't see how posting a lot of scatalogical hate speech about a dead man and his wife is "fighting" anything.
Get off the computer and go campaign for someone. That is fighting back.

[BlueCollar]

16. I'm OK with the concept...

any chance the dickheads at the DNC will grow a set?

Didn't think so...

[areschild]

17. Absolutely agree!!!

If the Neocon crappolas want to throw stones, I'll be damned if I toss a pebble. We have to understand, unless we fight fire with fire, we're gonna get our asses burned...no, make that charred. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.....stop worrying so much about being "nice". We're in a war to save this Country, and trying to fight it with "niceness" just ain't gonna cut it.

[KharmaTrain]

18. Know Where To Fight & When...

Right now the GOOP is spinning is so many directions, even the Tazmanian Devil is dizzy. Most of this crap we're witnessing isn't for us or the majority of people in this country who aren't paying attention and couldn't care less or those of us who detest this regime and can't wait to remove it. This is for that slim and shrinking group of "moderates" and "others"...who the GOOP assumed was in their camp and they're finding out aren't.

Do we have reasons to yell and scream and shout down the lies that are being said? Hell yes, and now's the time to get our ducks lined up in a row once and for all...all the facts checked and the truth loaded as a hammer ready to pound the shit out of these scum. But right now is too soon!

We've got 4 months to go here...unless the CIA determines differently, and this regime right now is out of control. It's doing its own self-destruction. We can slow this process by allowing the media to view us as the cause. Right now it's not the case and standing back and letting it implode further is not only ensuring a better chance for success this fall but is a lot of fun to watch as well.

Mo...fight the good fight, but let's hold the real fire back so no matter what desperation shit this regime pulls as its going down, they can't lie and cheat their way out of this.