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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:25 PM
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Exit Polls - please ask the Zogby organization to conduct
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 06:56 PM by Eric J in MN
Please send a message like the following to the Zogby Polling Organziation, at:
http://www.zogby.com/dearjohn/index.cfm

I admire your organization.

Please conduct exit polls on November 2, 2004.

Without exit polls by a widely trusted organization like yours, many people may doubt the legitimacy of the outcome, and attribute the outcome to rigged voting machines.

Once again, I ask that you please conduct nationwide exit polls on November 2, 2004.



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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:46 PM
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1. I just copied the text from your thread and sent that. Sounded good to me.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:04 PM
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8. thanks (nt)
nt
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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 10:19 AM
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12. Likewise
I added: After the debacle that was Election 2000, the American public deserves to know the truth.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:58 PM
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2. So what if they do?
Exit polls showed Gore won in Florida in 2000, but Jews still voted for Buchanan, Blacks were still banned from voting, absentee ballots were still being rigged, and Bush still managed to steal it.

What we need is a landslide not exit polls.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:04 PM
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4. We know that Theresa LePore's butterfly ballot was part of
We know that Theresa LePore's butterfly ballot was part of what cost Gore the election because of exit polls.

I prefer knowing to not-knowing.

If Bush wins in 2004, and exit-polls by Zogby say it was real, I'll feel differently about it than if Bush officially wins but exit polls by Zogby prove it was a rigged election.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:16 PM
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9. The gal in charge of FL voting says our elec. machines are not computers.
That lie has landslide for Bu$h. Written all over it.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:55 PM
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10. The Florida Secretary of State is Glenda Hood.
The Florida Secretary of State is Glenda Hood.

She also said we don't need to worry about the machines miscounting, because they will shut themselves down if they miscount.

I'm sure Florida's electoral votes will be given to the governor's brother, but I'd like an exit poll by Zogby to know what really happened.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:03 PM
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3. I don't see how exit polls help us.
Let's take Ohio - it will probably be close. What if the official election results show Bush, 51-49, and Zogby says Kerry 51-49, with a margin of error of plus or minus two points? In that case, they could have stolen just enough votes to put Bush over the top, while not enough to disagree heavily with Zogby.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:06 PM
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6. Suppose in Maryland, the Exit Polls say
Suppose in Maryland, the Exit Polls say 55% for Kerry and the Diebold results say 55% for Bush.

I'll believe that Diebold rigged the election, in that case.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 10:09 AM
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11. They wouldn't ever swing it 10%...
because it's just that obvious. If they are smart enough to rig these machines, they are smart enough not to swing Democratic states like Maryland 10 points. So many alarm bells would go off it's not even funny. That's my point.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 10:27 AM
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13. I still want to know what exit polls say re Maryland 2004 Pres.election.
nt
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:05 PM
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5. Thanks Eric. Will do!
:toast:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 08:29 PM
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7. You're welcome (nt)
nt
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 10:37 AM
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14. Great idea. Done. n/t.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 11:01 AM
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15. KICK for a Great IDEA!
Absolutely. The MORE light we shine on Bushevik manual and Electronic Disenfranchisement Strategies, the BETTER!
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:52 PM
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16. Kicking. n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 06:30 PM
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17. kick
kick
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:32 AM
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18. kick
kick
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chimpy the poopthrower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:48 AM
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19. But polling organizations don't work for free.
VNS, who used to do the exit polling, was paid by the media. No polling organization conducts polls out of the sheer goodness of their heart.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:49 AM
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20. Done! thanks for the link!
:toast:
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 11:59 AM
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21. Can we mobilize a citizen's effort to do this?
I admire the intent. But practically speaking, it's not gonna help much. Problem is any exit poll results published aggregate the numbers typically to a statewide result.

What we need are numbers for each precinct, numbers which can be checked against the results of that precinct to determine if there is a discrepancy--particularly where they are using the touch-screen computers for voting.

Question:


Can we mobilize a citizen's effort to do this--at least in key precincts?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 01:46 PM
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22. exit polls are very good in showing how fair the elections were
the exit polls in 2000 which showed gore won florida were accurate. and this was proved later on even when the numbers changed in bush's favor since investigations showed the problems with the ballots and some other problems.

during the democratic primary they were very accurate. remember how wisconsin showed kerry with a large lead over edwards but edwards ended up gaining a lot more ? the exit polls helped show how that happened. turned out there were a number of undecideds in the polls where kerry was leading. but in the final results the numbers edwards gained were similar to the undecideds. so it turned out that most of those undecideds went to edwards.
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