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Borknagar Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:48 PM
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I keep hearing . . .
I keep hearing that there is a lot of evidence that Saddam and Iraq are being connected to Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. Can anyone direct me to these so called facts? How does a person produce such document to prove this? Does Saddam sign a contract with Osama to have training camps?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:49 PM
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1. these aren't facts, they're LLLLIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 08:01 PM by AZDemDist6
and Cheney is a LLLLLLLIIAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR

it's BS all the way down the line

but don't believe me, start your research here

http://slate.msn.com/id/2082419#ContinueArticle
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Borknagar Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:50 PM
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2. wow
You are fast!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:34 PM
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16. Gotta keep on your toes, son.
Refuting bullshit is the law of the land around here.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:52 PM
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3. They retrospect their "facts" to fit their current "game"
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:53 PM
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4. Nothing to point you to...
'cause it doesn't exist.

Pre-invasion, our intel folks could make no case for such a connection. Post-invasion, Al Queda is said to be in the country, stirring the pot.

Some author is out with a book claiming there are all sorts of connections, but the intel doesn't back what he is claiming.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:10 PM
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9. Just their assertions -- that's all there is
No facts, in fact the "facts" (according to the CIA itself, and even at one point Bush's own admission) is that there was NO linkage with Saddam and bin Laden.

There was talk (which I think may have been accurate) of an al Qaeda training camp in Kurdish-controlled area, but that definitely wasn't anything Saddam had any control over.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:54 PM
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5. A conservative news source published an article...
...with quotes from unnamed sources who had talked to anonymous officials... who had overheard dinner conversations...
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:54 PM
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6. More than that
They actually were lovers. It's true. Look it up.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:55 PM
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7. More than that
They actually were lovers. It's true. Look it up. Or better yet, take my word for it.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:04 PM
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8. No offense
but do you get your news from Fox? The fact that there is no link has even been admitted by Bushco.Where have you been. This is part and parcel of the fradulent intel that led us to war! Do you think there were WMD? Just curious.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:18 PM
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13. Now, don't be mean to the new guy
Not everyone is a news/political junkie, ya know?
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Borknagar Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:33 PM
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15. I should have been more clear.
The reason I asked this is because I watching Bill O'Reilly and he inserted that there was evidence. I guess I should have made that clear. What I was wanting to know is what he is talking about and if anyone could point me in that direction. I've heard GWB say there was no connection as well as others. I simply wanted to know if anyone knew where Bill O'Reilly was getting these so-called facts that Al Qaeda and Iraq are connected. I realize that he is a propogandist but I would like to read the info for myself. I figured there would be published articles or something backing his point of view.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:40 PM
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19. Well, there's the problem right there! Watching Bill O'Liely..n/t
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:11 PM
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10. A couple of questions ...
Which of these three countries did NOT recognise the Taliban regime?
1. Pakistan
2. Saudi Arabia
3. Iraq?

Which of these three countries was NOT an American ally in 2001?
1. Pakistan
2. Saudi Arabia
3. Iraq?

Clue: it's the same answer twice, and it's Iraq.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:13 PM
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11. The only ties between Osama & Saddem are the following
Raygun, Poppy, Weed boy, Rummey the Dummy and Cheney the Boar.

Unless these guys took photos of two of them hanging out at one of their parties, no evidence exists.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:14 PM
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12. borknagar, i have a naggin feeling
this could be the oct surprise. they went thru saddams things. supposedly i had first heard the first twin tower explosion was saddam, and then the blind shiek connected to obl. i have since heard little bits here adn there, that leads me to say...........

i dont point out so much that there is not a connection at alll. i dont think there is between 9/11 and saddam, but i wouldnt be surprised if after 9/11 closer to when u.s. was going to invade iraq saddam and his people might have made a connection or something.

i dont know. i just dont harp on that point with the right. there are a lot of other points for me to talk about bush needs to go. like executing after they invaded, creating the peace, they did a poor, incompentent job, just in case they pull that out i am not tied to that

everything is open. i dont stand strongly on the wmd either though i feel they are all their old stuff.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:20 PM
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14. Welcome to Du!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:36 PM
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17. There is a very definite connection between Saddam & Osama.
His name is Donald Rumsfeld!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:37 PM
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18. Ha!
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:47 PM
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20. Stop listening
to Dick Cheney.
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