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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:03 PM
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This is what Bill O'Reilly think of people with financial difficulties.

-MediaMatters.org-

On the June 11 nationally syndicated broadcast of The Radio Factor, host Bill O'Reilly claimed that poor people in the United States are "irresponsible and lazy"; "didn't make any money" during the 1990s; and "will never make any money because ... you can't compete ... if you are addicted and ill-educated." In fact, poor Americans did make economic gains in the 1990s.


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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:05 PM
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1. Social Darwinism
is alive and well. Do people actually listen to him?
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:06 PM
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2. Bill O' Reilly can suck my big, fat cock. We all can't be millionaires.
I hate to have to educate Mr. Asshole, but the vast majority of Americans are NOT "addicted and ill-educated".
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:08 PM
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3. Hey that's just unnecessary.
You don't know were that mouth of his has been.

;-)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:27 PM
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12. it's been sucking Bush
that's where it's been
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:33 PM
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22. Thank you for that disturbing image. But the truth is the truth. eom
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 10:51 PM
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45. That was an awesome comeback!
lol
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kofijoe Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:14 PM
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7. No need to brag....
:eyes:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:15 PM
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9. I'm strangely drawn to your post, terrya
I don't know why. :9

Just more Republican "I got mine, so fuck you!" thinking. They are shockingly ignorant. We should team Bill up with HUD Secretary Alphonse "Poverty Is a State of Mind" Jackson.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 03:52 PM
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34. It's nuts, isn't it?
Someone has to teach the kids, and do social work and work in a government office. Not rich people by any means.

And then there are the un-educated. Not everyone has the mental abilities to go on to a higher education. Sheeez. Someone has to do those jobs too and everyone should respect that labor too.

I wish the service people would personally boycott O'Rielly. Let's see the trash pile up in his yard, and the mail go un-delivered, and he'll have to sack his own groceries........
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 04:28 PM
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40. Hey!
Isn't that kind of attitude know as "elitism"? I thought Mr. O'Lielly was contemptuous of elitist? Is this what is know as HYPOCRISY? Nahhh, couldn't be.:eyes:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 04:33 PM
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42. Al Franken said it better in "Lies and the Lying Liars"...
Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 04:35 PM by terrya
about O' Lielly than I ever could. O' Lielly is a phony baloney "man of the people" who's nothing but a rich goddamned hypocrite. Same ol, same ol'. Par for the course from these bastards.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:09 PM
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4. Well excuse me, Mr. o'Lielly, but I have a college degree
and so does my husband. But we're poor by choice not through laziness. I opted to stay home with my kids instead of trying to become a millionaire.

And I am all the "richer" for it, too.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:14 PM
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8. Well said.
You are probably better educated than he is anyway.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:50 PM
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30. I sure hope so. Thanks! :^)
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:09 PM
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5. THAT'S Reagan's legacy right there.
That's what the country just finished paying homage to.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:41 PM
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24. Exactly
religious my ass, these people are evil.
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DoctorWeird Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:11 PM
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6. That part about "ill-educated" is funny
Since poor people generally can't afford private school or even to live in areas where good public schools are. We discussed this in my Sociology class. The professor asked some questions I think are very telling of the right. First, she asked if money should be redistricted so that all schools received equal money from tax. The overwhelming respons, "no" because " I don't want to pay for someone else's kid" Secondly, these kids, who with me are in a private college, sat there and seriously said "there is no difference between public and private schools, all schools are the same." and finally, these same "compassionate conservatives" said that as for minorities, "Christians were persecuted 2000 years ago and are fine now, so eventually, minorities will be fine too." Greeeeeat *clap...clap...clap* The future of America folks!
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:17 PM
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10. Did You Notice..........

That only republicans and millionaires think that way. Not everyone is a genius and or
can afford to go to college. Some people are just not smart enough to get into a college.

What do they have to look forward to, a 10 year outdated minimum wage law that pays
poverty wages.

O'Reilly has no clue what it's like in the real world. He thinks that everyone can just go
to college and work hard and you will become a millionaire.

He says if you are not wealthy it's your own fault and you are just lazy. What about the guy
who works 20 years at a factory then they close the factory when he is 50 and nobody wants
to hire a guy over 50 with only 10 or 15 years of working age left ?

What about the guy that puts in 50 job applications but gets no reply from any of them ?

I know people that worked a good job for 20 years, a job they thought they would retire
from. Then the place went out of business, now they are 50 years old and nobody will hire
them. Of course they could work at burger king but who can live on $5.50 an hour ?

O'Reilly is so stupid and clueless it's scary.

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DoctorWeird Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:23 PM
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11. It's Part and Parcel of the Republican Ideology
Republicans are so into individuality they forget that some of where you end up is sheer luck. To be successful you have to a.) be rich or b.) have a family that supports you, be smart, be in a good location, preferably be a white male...etc. etc. etc. Even with all of that going for you, statistically the vast majority of people will never get more than one income level higher than they started.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:30 PM
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18. for the record
I know a lot of really stupid people with college degrees
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:43 PM
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26. Our pResident is one of those stupid people ...........
with college degrees. Isn't W's degree in cheerleading?
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:27 PM
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13. He's a jerk. But I actually agree w/PART of his statement.
There IS a percentage of the population that will always be irresponsible, lazy, addicted, and uneducated.

But what Bill "O'Liely" fails to say is that the percentage of poor in our nation has been increasing since Reagan.

What he also fails to say is that there is a much larger percentage of poor who are not irresponsible, lazy, addicted, and/or uneducated.

This is the Repub platform, I think: Gee, anyone who WANTS to work, IS working! If not, they're trying to slink along on my tax dollars. They are almost paranoid that someone is getting away w/working less than they do (as if Dick Cheney's wife actually works, or as if Bush is actually working a 40 hour work week.....pllllleeeeease!)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:31 PM
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19. This ignores the plight of the innocent children who are poor
Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 01:38 PM by redqueen
Despite the fact that the GOP loooooves to rant about this situation, is it not logical to acknowledge that this situation does not apply to 100% of poor people?

Given that, one must acknowledge that helping the poor *regardless of why they are poor* is our duty as Christians.

And even without any religious beliefs or ideology, it is clearly not the fault of children even if their parents are poor due to character flaws, and they should not be punished for it.

*sigh*

I never ever will get used to seeing reich-wing drivel spewed here.

:(
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:43 PM
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25. Re the Christian viewpoint....
I'm afraid we're out of luck, there. When asked by someone whether to give $$$ to the poor instead of to Jesus' cause, Jesus responded, "There will always be the poor." Loophole for the Christians (I have no problem w/Christians or Christianity, BTW, so no offense intended.)

But I think it is correct that there always is, in every population, a percentage of the people who are ne'er do wells. But if one is an optimist, as the Repubs love to say that they are, then one must believe that they are a tiny percentage, and the entire economic policy must not be based on those ne'er do wells.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:48 PM
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27. Sure it's the fault of the children
They should have been born into better families. :mad:
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:28 PM
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14. one more reason to drop Faux from Britain's sattelite feed
another unsubstantiated claim uttered without the chance for rebuttal... first Gibson, now O'Liely

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1239094,00.html?=rss

O'Liely is going to cost Fox their feed rights to the UK if he keeps this up, then he'll be out of a job and no one will want to hire him; he'll go through his money and be on the street with a cup in his hand...

well, it looked good on the storyboard.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:28 PM
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15. Does he mean like
addicted and ill-educated Rush Limbaugh? Oh, oops, he's a Republican.

Does he mean like addicted and ill-educated Dubya? Given golden opportunities at the finest schools and instead he parties, drinks, drugs & womanizes?

Most of the 90's was Clinton's Presidency..... is he saying that the poor were given opportunity under Clinton? If that is the case, than at least he got one thing right.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:29 PM
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16. "Ill-educated"? Is that like "illogical"?
Someone needs to tell Bill "O'Liely" that there is no such word as "ill-educated." (Is there?) It's "uneducated" or "not well educated," I think.

Maybe Bill is "ill-educated."
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:30 PM
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17. Yeah, but hey Bill--camels are flying through eyes of needles these days
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:32 PM
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20. Yeah heard this particular rant that day while channel surfing
on the radio. This dumbass called in to say that when she and her husband both lost their jobs after 9/11 they both went back to school to get new careers - hubby got his masters, and she changed fields all together, etc. HELLO! Takes money to go back to school! Who the hell is keeping food on the table and shoes on the kids' feet while mom and dad go back to college? Most Americans don't have enough dough in the bank to support their families and go back to school while unemployed. Gist of what she and O'Lielly were saying was anyone who is unemployed is too stupid to live.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:33 PM
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21. And thanks to No Child Left Behind...
many will unfortunately remain uneducated.

But, education doesn't always mean a person is educated. Look at the jackass in chief: degrees from Yale and Harvard and he still can't put a coherent, grammatically correct sentence together.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:35 PM
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23. somebody needs to sit old bill's ass down hard
and make him read this.


The Fight of Our Lives
by Bill Moyers


~Caroline Payne is one of the people in David Shipler's new book,' The Working Poor: Invisible in America'. She was born poor, and in spite of having once owned her own home and having earned a two-year college degree, Caroline Payne has bounced from one poverty-wage job to another all her life, equipped with the will to move up, but not the resources to deal with unexpected and overlapping problems like a mentally handicapped daughter, a broken marriage, a sudden layoff crisis that forced her to sell her few assets, pull up roots and move on. "In the house of the poor," Shipler writes "...the walls are thin and fragile and troubles seep into one another."

Here's something else to get mad about. Two weeks ago, the House of Representatives, the body of Congress owned and operated by the corporate, political, and religious right, approved new tax credits for children. Not for poor children, mind you. But for families earning as much as $309,000 a year -- families that already enjoy significant benefits from earlier tax cuts. The editorial page of The Washington Post called this "bad social policy, bad tax policy, and bad fiscal policy. You'd think they'd be embarrassed," said the Post, "but they're not."

And this, too, is something to get mad about. Nothing seems to embarrass the political class in Washington today. Not the fact that more children are growing up in poverty in America than in any other industrial nation; not the fact that millions of workers are actually making less money today in real dollars than they did twenty years ago; not the fact that working people are putting in longer and longer hours and still falling behind; not the fact that while we have the most advanced medical care in the world, nearly 44 million Americans -- eight out of ten of them in working families -- are uninsured and cannot get the basic care they need. ~


~Let's face the reality: If ripping off the public trust; if distributing tax breaks to the wealthy at the expense of the poor; if driving the country into deficits deliberately to starve social benefits; if requiring states to balance their budgets on the backs of the poor; if squeezing the wages of workers until the labor force resembles a nation of serfs -- if this isn't class war, what is?

It's un-American. It's unpatriotic. And it's wrong. ~

full text here: (this is so worth the time it will take you to read it.)
http://www.progressivetrail.org/articles/040616Moyers.shtml?mail=16
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drone0101 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:49 PM
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28. who cares what O'Reilly thinks
?
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:50 PM
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29. Good newby post
now that you've asked.... I certainly don't. He's a joke. Welcome to DU :hi:
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:02 PM
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31. One of the "addicted" and "ill-educated" need to rob the fucker of....
his millions.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 03:44 PM
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32. I don't know about
Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 03:47 PM by forgethell
"irresponsible and lazy, but you damn sure can't compete if you are addicted and ill-educated. Just because O'Reilly said it, that doesn't make it wrong. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 03:49 PM
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33. So you're accepting and agreeing with his contention
Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 03:50 PM by redqueen
that the poor are poor for the reasons he states?

*sigh*
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 03:58 PM
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35. O'Reilly needs a month of fasting and living like the poor
More compassionate conservatism..he just helps our cause. Keep lying Billy Boy..Between you, Rush and Coulter, we are gonna win !
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 10:23 PM
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43. Not all of them, no;
Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 10:24 PM by forgethell
but some of them, yes. sigh. Or do you know many uneducated junkies who are rich?
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General Discontent Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 10:48 PM
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44. Ahem,.... Rush Limbaugh
n/t

DWolfman
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 04:02 PM
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36. Murka
The only country where the poor are made to fell it's their fault.

That way they won't rebel.

It's always been so here
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 04:12 PM
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37. Whose fault is it?
He should mention whose fault it is they're "ill-educated." Could it be...society's? The government's? More ridiculous RW "blame the victim" tactics. Hey, Bill, pick up a copy of Johnathan Kozol's "Savage Inequalities" if you want to know why they don't get a decent education.
Sabriel
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 04:14 PM
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38. great book recommendation!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 04:22 PM
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39. Same shit they told us in the 80's...
What a fitting memorial to Ronaldus Rex. Tell the Poor the same thing you told them 20 years ago "Hey, if you're POOR, you just need to give up that Welfare, get offa your ass and get a JOB and go back to school so you can get a BETTER job like *I* got, and oh, be sure to vote ReTHUGlican, because we CARE about you poor folk and wanna see ya all pull youreslves up by your OWN shoestrings!"

O'Reilly can take his tongue and check my colon for polyps.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 04:32 PM
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41. Well he has a point about junkies and willfully ignorant people.
But to say all people with low income are either of the two is ludicrous, some people just can't catch a break, are discriminated against or have some other legitimate reason why they can't earn more. O'Reilly is a douchebag in any case.
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