Announcing The Responsible Party

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

A little something cooked up in the fertile brain of one Dave Haynie. Google the name or open up an Amiga Computer and look at the motherboard. All will be revealed. He has quite the fertile brain:

We (and I use that term loosely, since right now, the only registered
members are me and my cat, "Flaming Mo") believe, foremost, in personal
responsibility. This means many things. For one, it means we're
RESPONSIBLE for our actions. If you fall (financially), the government
should help you up, sure. But then you are going to have to walk, on
your own.

Corporations, and those running them, are also RESPONSIBLE. If a
corporation pollutes a lake, they are RESPONSIBLE for cleaning it up,
once they're caught. 100% so. If necessary, they will be sold to pay up.
The people in charge will also be held personally RESPONSIBLE for their
actions in such matters. If government officials do a similar
screwing-of-the-pooch with Your Tax Dollars, they will be held
RESPONSIBLE, which means fines and jail time, for abusing the taxpayers'
trust.

If you make huge sums of money, a larger chunk of that is going to the government.
You won't starve. The Government, in turn, has to be RESPONSIBLE for spending it wisely,
as mentioned. If the army doesn't want a particular weapon, that weapon
is not made. Corporate welfare is a capital offense -- corporations are
RESPONSIBLE for their own welfare, they do not get hand-outs from the
government.

If you do a crime, and are not criminally insane or some-such, you are
RESPONSIBLE for that crime. Not your lot in life, your lousy upbringing,
etc. If you're a bad guy, doing a crime, you'll get your due process and
go to jail. You do not get to sue for the fact that you slipped and
broke you butt running from the crime scene. And if you try, you get
both the public ridicule thing for a week, and a 6'8", 350lbs. cellmate
known only as "The Maneater".

If you got to jail, you don't get a free ride, you work. Not death-camp
work, but regular, ordinary everyday manual labor. You don't cost the
government. You do learn a skill of your choice. You are RESPONSIBLE for
doing this work properly. If you're too much trouble, you get
transferred to the Hard Case Prison in Northern Alaska, where you're
RESPONSIBLE, or you wind up on an ice floe (well, at least while Alaska
still has them).

We also don't take crap. Especially from California. If you spill a cup
of hot coffee on your genitals, too bad -- next time, be more careful.
If you decide to sue the drive-through fast food place for making your
coffee unsafe for application to you genitals, you not only get your
case thrown out, you pay all costs, INCLUDING the cost of putting you on
display, for public ridicule, for no less than one week. You are not
legally required to not behave like a moron, but you will be held
RESPONSIBLE for any actions of your that attempt to impose this
lifestyle, or the outcome of such, on the public at large.

If you make a baby, you take care of that baby; you are RESPONSIBLE for
a kid that can't yet take care of his/herself. If you try to duck that
responsibilty, you will be tried in-abstentia for child abuse, and
sentenced. Once you're caught, your prison-work salary will then be sent
to the guardian of your child. All of it. If you don't want a child,
don't have one. Condems are available, free, at dispensers on every
street corner. They come with directions and a map.

Then there's the land. It's not yours to fuck up, not remotely. You
aren't here, very long, in geological terms. You are RESPONSIBLE,
individually and as a corporation, for leaving things as you found them,
as any hiker understands. If you mess something up, you WILL pay to fix
it, and you'll pay the full cost. The government isn't bailing you out.
If your shareholders don't like that, they can sue you. They'll win,
and you'll have to pay them, too.

We're RESPONSIBLE for our own international security. Undue dependence
on any foreign government is illegal. Oil, technology, manufacturing,
doesn't matter. International cooperation is fine, dependence is not.

Anyway, that's my party. But hey, at least I don't have to consult
Republican HQ before I know how to think. I'm RESPONSIBLE for that, too.
So's the cat...

[Political_Junkie]

1. Yep, makes some good points.

n/t

[Deja Q]

2. As was Commodore, our own nation is burnt toast...

For the same reasons: Mismanagement by the idiots running the place despite having a first rate product. (The Amiga was superlative until PC technology finally got its act together in, oh, 1998, to create hardware that worked together as fluidly as the Amiga had done. Remember, the Amiga came out in 1985...)

[TexasSissy]

3. Most things sound good.

If only life and government were that simple, that black and white.

[Missy Vixen]

4. Oh, so now it's Stella Liebeck's fault

she was burned by a cup of coffee served at 180 degrees.

>If you spill a cup of hot coffee on your genitals, too bad -- next time, be more careful.<

She removed the lid of the coffee while sitting in a stationery vehicle to put cream and sugar in it. How could she have been "more careful"? Not ordered it at all? I call bullshit.

>If you decide to sue the drive-through fast food place for making your coffee unsafe for application to you genitals, you not only get your case thrown out, you pay all costs, INCLUDING the cost of putting you on display, for public ridicule, for no less than one week.<

I imagine that the above writer thinks he's a real wit. McDonald's had been warned hundreds of times about serving coffee that was hot enough to give Ms. Liebeck second and third degree burns when she spilled it. She wasn't doing anything with that cup of coffee that millions of other Americans don't do daily, and some of them have been burned by McDonald's coffee as well. The reason McDonald's coffee is served burning hot? It disguises the fact that the coffee isn't fresh. It's not suitable for consumption at that temperature.

I'm not much of a coffee drinker, but my husband is. We go through this everytime he buys a latte. "Not so hot, please," he'll say. Most of the time, he lets the latte sit in the car's cupholder for the better part of half an hour while it cools from scorching to drinkable.

I'm all for responsibility, but I'm also for holding those responsible that make products that will injure or kill consumers. When we disallow the ability for any consumer to sue for damages from a defective or harmful product, we're ensuring that justice is only available to the wealthiest.

Julie

[jmowreader]

5. I especially want to thank Julie

for saying what needed to be said.

Every fucking Republican in the world will tell you Liebeck v. McDonalds is a clear cut case of Legal System Overkill. Until you tell 'em that the coffee Stella Liebeck had caused third-degree burns on her genitals. That changes their minds real quick.

The problem here is that most folks get their information about this case from Pigboy, who likes to laugh about how terrible those lib'ruls are, letting old ladies sue because they spill a little coffee in their laps. Hey Rush! Get a cup of coffee, heat it to 180 degrees, dump it on your nuts and see how good skin grafts feel.