Why should Bush care about us so much that he'll give us all mental exams?

[Deja Q]

http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov/address.html

And WTF does the continued overuse/misuse/abuse/shoveling of "Freedom" have to do with this? (holy fascist propaganda, Batman!)

They're also using 9/11 as an excuse for this. It's been 2.5 years, some of us have regained our sense of rationality I should think.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/328/7454/1458

Bush plans to screen whole US population for mental illness

I hope that article isn't for real. Will the test questions be standard certified ones? Ones that he* perverts for his own gain? Both?

Will he include himself and his cabinet fairly? He * thinks God talks to him, and as for Rumdrinker, Conartist Rice, Colon Polyp, and the rest... :scared:

More:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/toc-2004.html

[Bob3]

1. In the old Soviet Union they would classify dissent as crazy

pop folks into the nearest mental hospital. It could be * and his boys want to do that here and are setting up the paper trail.

[lostnfound]

7. The Bush-ites already classify dissent as crazy -- soldiers who complained

about torture at Abu Ghraib have been sent for mental treatment.

[Village Idiot]

11. "Sluggish" Schizophrenia...

is what they used to call it...they would just lock you up in the Serbsky and then cart you off to the Gulag of choice after you had been properly re-educated...

[H2O Man]

15. This has happened in the USA, also.

Princeton U "social scientist" Gresham M. Stykes did a study of prison in 1958, known as "The Society of Captives." In it, he wrote, "Centers of opposition in the inmate population - in the form of men recognized by other inmates to be leaders - can be neutralized through the use of solitary confinement or exile to other state institutions. Just as the Deep South served as a dumping ground for particularly troublesome slaves before the Civil War, so to can the ... mental hospitals serve as a dumping ground for the maximum security population."

While I do not have the book at my fingertips, others may recall that Mark Lane and Dick Gregory found the single most important witness in the killing of Martin Luther King, Jr., had been "exiled" to a mental institution to keep her quiet for I believe almost 18 years.

I was one of three people who exchanged communications with Rubin "Hurricane" Carter while he was kept for long, long periods in solitary confinement and in the Vroom Psychiatric Wing of Trenton State Prison (the prison & hospital in Stykes' study). I have the prison's records, regarding their concerns about Rubin. I worked for decades as a psychiatric social worker. I know who benefits from hospitalizations. The prison system was putting Carter in only to punish him for telling the truth.

[Karenina]

18. Igor plays GREAT trumpet

and got busted there for playing jazz. 2 years in the looney bin. The tales he tells... :crazy:

[tom_paine]

24. The New Bushevik Amerika is ALREADY much like the Old Soviet Union

This measure only brings it closer.

And the Imperial Family one step closer to the Complete Enslavement and Breaking of Free America.

C'mon and bring me in for that "mental health screen". Come right on over, you Soviet Fucks!

[Nlighten1]

2. Didn't Poppy Bush recently invest in the mental health business?

I seem to recall an article from years ago where Poppy invested a lot of money in this area of business.

[LittleApple81]

3. Me thinks a BushCo friend must want to be the CONTRACTOR to examine

America. With Bush* it is always follow the money.

[brokensymmetry]

4. Now where's that copy of

They're Coming to Take Me Away? :crazy:

[sam sarrha]

5. well.. if you post inflammatory statements on DU.. your are nuts and

and will be immediately over medicated for the rest of your life..

[gmoney]

6. He spends 4 years driving us all insane...

NOW he wants to see how crazy we all are so he can give us mental health care?

I tend to think it's a way of measuring dissent, which of course, equals insanity.

This is the freakin' Twilight Zone, isn't it?

He's not planning to implement this before the election, is he? C'mon Kerry...

[neebob]

8. Where besides the headline of that one article does it say

he plans to screen the whole US population?

They ought to screen the entire Bush administration for personality disorders.

[smirkymonkey]

28. That's what I was wondering...

and if they did try to screen the entire US population, how would they do it.

Or is this setting some kind of precedent for legally looking into the mental health records of liberals only to have them locked up for "dangerous" mental illnesses.

[Hubert Flottz]

9. Here we go again, GROWING the government intrusion that the

GOP claimed to detest so in campaign 2000! Big Government is growing bigger and bolder every day! Maybe that is how Bush is creating all those invisible new jobs, that he keeps lying about! The Crazies are running the show!

[Deja Q]

17. And all in the wrong ways!

Regulation for corporations is a must, but when they say "big government", they even hide the microprint...

[dutchdemocrat]

10. Eugenics

Lots of history regarding eugenics in the Bush Family.

I am sure your future biodata will include material from this proposed testing.

<SNIP>

The Harriman family sponsored the creation of the eugenics movement in the United States, which successfully campaigned for the mass sterilization of the "feeble-minded" and "racially inferior" during the 1920s--practices later copied, not originated, by the Nazis. As part of this campaign, the Harrimans helped organize a series of international eugenics conferences. At the 1932 conference, held at the Museum of Natural History in New York, the guest of honor was none other than Dr. Ernst Rudin, the head of the German Society for Racial Hygiene, who, just a few years later, drafted the Nazi miscegenation laws against te Jews, gypsies, and Slavs.

Among the Americans who rubbed shoulders with Rudin at the 1932 conference was Gen. William Draper, a New York investment banker and close personal friend of Prescott Bush, who became one of the most influential crusaders for radical population control measures. He campaigned endlessly for zero population growth, and praised the Chinese Communists for their "innovative" methods of achieving that goal. Draper's most influential outlet was the Population Crisis Committee (PCC)-Draper Fund, set up in 1965 by Hugh Moore, who had taken over the Human Betterment Association, a leading eugenics outfit, in 1937, renaming it the Association for Voluntary Sterilization.

In 1967-68, a PCC-Draper Fund offshoot, the Campaign to Check the Population Explosion, ran a nationwide advertising campaign hyping the population explosion fraud, and attacking those--particularly at the Vatican--who stood in the way of radical population control.

In a 1971 article, Draper likened the developing nations to an ``animal reserve,'' where, when the animals become too numerous, the park rangers ``arbitrarily reduce one or another species as necessary to preserve the balanced environment for all other animals. ``But who will be the park ranger for the human race?,'' he asked. ``Who will cull out the surplus in this country or that country when the pressure of too many people and too few resources increases beyond endurance? Will the death-dealing Horsemen of the Apocalypse--war in its modern nuclear dress, hunger haunting half the human race, and disease--will the gaunt and forbidding Horsemen become Park Ranger for the two-legged animal called man?''

Draper collaborated closely with George Bush during the latter's congressional career. As noted above, Bush invited Draper to testify to his Task Force on Earth Resources and Population; reportedly, Draper helped draft the Bush-Tydings bill.

Bush felt an overwhleming affinity for the bestial and degraded image of man reflected in the raving statements of Draper. In September 1969, Bush gave a glowing tribute to Draper that was published in the cf2 Congressional Record cf1 . ``I wish to pay tribute to a great American,'' said Bush. ``I am very much aware of the significant leadership that General Draper has executed throughout the world in assisting governments in their efforts to solve the awesome problems of rapid population growth. No other person in the past five years has shown more initiative in creating the awareness of the world's leaders in recognizing the economic consequences of our population explosion.''

<SNIP>

http://www.tarpley.net/bush10.htm

[Tansy_Gold]

31. Thanks, dutchdemocrat. I was wondering who would post it.

I said back in early 2000, before boosh had the GOP nomination, that if he got into the white house, he'd be another Hitler. I speculated who his "jews" would be, but that's all I could do.

Reading about this, of course, instantly reminded me that among Hitler's first victims were the "insane" and "feeble-minded." They were taken away, after their families were persuaded that after all, it would not be good for the country, for the race, to be sullied by such defects, and of course, no "good German" family would want anyone to even know that they had a defective family member. The victims were then exterminated. It was for the betterment of society, you know.

So after the "insane" and the "feeble-minded" -- by any arbitrary definition/diagnosis the booshies want to concoct -- who's next? You? Me?


Tansy Gold

[teryang]

12. Despot and torturer tries to feign compassion

Society demands common sense, not thought. Common sense involves sharing the approved perceptions.

Democritus first posed the existence of the atom. He was regarded as insane.

The thinker is lumped with the pathologically psychotic by the conventional.

Those who seek to reveal the truth behind the semblances of convention do the established order a disservice and are stigmatized as cranks and paranoids. They frequently find themselves in social isolation.

Perhaps dissenters can now have the potential for a Daniel Ellsberg experience when their medical records are digitized by the despot. Perhaps the state may now play a more active role in defining and identifying who is "mentally ill."

[hang a left]

20. I have thought of this for a few days since I first read this in LBN.

How many Americans are on Prozac, paxil, or some other type of anti-depressant. The pharmaceutical companies advertise these meds heavily. All you need to do is take a trip to your GP and you can receive free trials of these meds from your dr. How will these people be defined.

[teryang]

21. This kind of government intervention in private health

...matters presents all kinds of issues. The drug companies are predatory. Medical advertising should be banned.

[booisblu]

13. Well

he could very well earn the "uniter" title with this one. All the repubs I've pointed this out to are totally against it. Sometimes it seems he is trying to lose this election in a big way!

[tom_paine]

29. Or he KNOWS he CAN'T LOSE IT

Unfortunately, I "vote" for the Unbridled Corruption of Imperial Amerika.

[teryang]

14. Zyprexa- we're here to help or....

...absorb as much of your insurance and tax dollars as possible with our outrageously expensive drug.

[thinkingwoman]

16. the sooner we all start taking our soma

the sooner W can get on with making his job easier--by making Murika a dicktatershit.

[seabeyond]

19. is this for real, personally cannot see how can be done

invasion of privacy you think. think i am going to give these people my psychic, my vulnerabilities, my political leaning.

you all read the article of the 600 prison camps in place ready to be filled up. and you are seriously telling bushie boy wants me to fill out a form for him to tell him my position in life and my feeling about him and the party, and then have doctors with the ability to say i am toooooo way out there and for my and the nations safety i need to be put into a camp.

i am not filling anything out. and he cant make me

oooops, there i go to the camp for not doing what bushie boy wants me to do

[hang a left]

25. This is a snip from my post back in feb of this year

snip>

So I go to the doctor. My regular medical center. Haven't been there for about a year. They make me sign a bunch of new paperwork and make sign a receipt for this notice of privacy practice.

This causes me great concern. The way this pamplet is written, it appears that the stage has been set for the various government agencies to use your doctors and medical clinics as a source of information. Does this bother anyone else.

snip>

12. Law enforcement. We may, and are sometimes required by law, to disclose your health information to a law enforcement official for purposes such as identifying of locating a suspect, fugitive, material witness or missing person, complying with a court order, warrant, grand jury subpoena and other law enforcement purposes.

snip>

15. Public safety. We may, and are sometimes required by law, to disclose your health information to appropriate persons in order to prevent or lessen a serious and imminent threat to the health or safety of a particular person or the general public.


16. Specialized government functions. We may disclose your health information for military or national security purposes or to correctional institutions or law enforcement officers that have you in their lawful custody.





Could this be how?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

22. Trying to find out who is guilty of thoughtcrime.

Thoughtcrime = mental illness.

This was my first thought on reading about this. I wonder if the questions will look for political slant.

[jokerman93]

23. I don't see it anywhere

Where does it explicitly say that this bogus program includes screening the "entire population"? That's very different from screening all students and others who find their way into clinics, shelters and other social services? I'm 46, single, white, and I work for a large corporation. When do they get to people like me?
This whole thing stinks and I really want to know what we're looking at here. Is this "entire population" thing just hyperbole or have I missed something? Help!

[rucky]

26. You're all paranoid!

(except for me)

:hi:

[ElementaryPenguin]

27. Busheviks to single out, torture and lobotomize libural Democrats!

Sean Hannity, Sir Thomas Delay, and Ann Coulter will be in charge of the entire operation!

[Exgeneral]

30. why? Simple.

Eventually, being a liberal democrat in the face of the overwhelming goodness of the neocon agenda as exemplefied in the media and every weekend in the churches and synagogues will be viewed as a form of insanity.

Right now today, the right wing routinely characterizes their enemies as "loony". They just plan to extend this train of thought to the "other half" of population :scared: