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Kid_A Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:54 AM
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What are your favorite examples of Repubs attacking fictional characters?
With the uproar over F9/11, I've been thinking of other times when conservatives have taken brave stances against Popular Culture and Other People Who Aren't Real. Granted, F9/11 isn't nearly as trivial as most movies that get them pissed off, but it's still an example of their glaring hypocrisy about Free Speech. Here are the ones I can remember right now:

Bill O'Reilly and Ludacris/Pepsi
Lynne Cheney and Eminem
Country Music Radio and the Dixie Chicks
Charlton Heston and Ice-T
Barbara Bush and the Simpsons (hilariously documented on new DVD!)
Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown
Jerry Falwell and the Teletubbies
Joe Lieberman (face it, he's a conservative) and video games
Rudy Giuliani and the Poop Painting
The Entire Religious Right and Marilyn Manson

And those are just the ones from the past decade or so!

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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:57 AM
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1. last time I checked, Ludacris and eminem aren't fictional characters
neither is Marylin Manson. And videogames and poop paintings are neither characters nor fictional.
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Kid_A Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:01 AM
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I'm talking about pop culture and art in general...
though one could argue that musicians who have an exaggerated onstage persona are fictional. I know Manson certainly doesn't walk down the street ripping apart Bibles...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:10 AM
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16. But considering pop culture icons get that way
by criticizing the establishment, it seems a little odd to complain when the establishment criticizes back.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:01 AM
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6. Wondered about that, too. The Dixie Chicks and Ice-T, too. nt
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UGABrother Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:06 AM
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10. not literally

but you can see what the poster is getting at.

You might argue that pop culture icons, insofar as they're carefully crafted for public consumption, have a lot in common with fictional characters.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:58 AM
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2. How about the religious right and Harry Potter?
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UGABrother Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:00 AM
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3. don't forget Harry Potter

He's turning our children on to satanic witchcraft!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:00 AM
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4. My all-time favorite was and still is Quayle taking on "Murphy Brown"
on single motherhood. Just typing this is making me laugh all over again!
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:00 AM
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5. Ash*croft vs. the nekkid statue
Boy that was a close one. The AG who lost an election to a corpse almost saw nudity.

Imagine if it were a nude tri-colored cat, the place would have been razed.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:03 AM
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7. Rock and Roll and Dungeons and Dragons
Nothing is more corrupting to America's youth than music and games.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:26 AM
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19. Jack Van Impe saying that R&R was a tool of Satan,
& the Commies.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:00 PM
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20. I remember preachers around home calling it the music of the Pit.
Mississippi, you know.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:03 AM
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8. Bush v Hussein. It's like a historical fiction. He's not quite what they
pretended he was. Their versions of Hussein seems to be loosely based on reality.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:04 AM
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9. PMRC
Remember Frank Zappa and Twisted Sister's Dee Snyder testifying in Congress?

lol
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Kid_A Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:08 AM
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12. I thought about that one...
but I didn't want to get flamed for listing Al and Tipper Gore alongside Jerry Falwell and Lynne Cheney.:)
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:13 AM
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17. here's the tie to Pubbies:
But though he recorded more than 50 albums -- most are still available -- and retained a hard-core following in the States, Zappa was better appreciated overseas. Zappa albums were smuggled into Czechoslovakia before the fall of communism and Vaclav Havel, the playwright-turned-president, was so moved that he made Zappa a special ambassador to the West for culture. But the appointment was derailed by pressure from the State Department, then run by James Baker -- whose wife, Susan, was a co-founder of the PMRC.

http://www.hotshotdigital.com/WellAlwaysRemember.3/FrankZappaBio.html
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:06 PM
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21. Funniest Zappa controversy
When his "Jazz From Hell" album was released with a warning sticker for explicit content.

Only problem: It was an instrumental album.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:17 PM
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28. That was Tipper's invention
That episode had a lot to do with my continued lack on trust in Al Gore.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:07 AM
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11. Christian Coalition and children's literature
They seem to go after just about any book that has the gall to show a family that isn't Mom/Dad. Their latest is "King and King," in which a prince on the hunt for a princess falls for a princess's brother instead. What business is it of theirs what my kid reads?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:08 AM
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13. Then there is the reverse: GOP using fiction to support themselves
Reagan claiming Rambo showed him how to handle terrorists (which of course led to the delayed release of a hundred hostages he had just negotiated the release of)

John Wayne (the image) being used to fight everyone in the 60s.

Newt Gingrich relying on Boys Town to explain why the gov should cut foster home funding.

And of course, the Darwin Fish being eaten by the Truth Fish (ever notice how religious righters can't think of anything on their own, and just steal whatever someone else creates? "Got Jesus?" "Know Jesus, Know Peace," that little Piss Kid praying before the cross? I guess it's appropriate, considering they stole the whole darned religion, anyway.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:10 AM
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14. The Cultural Elite
I believe it was Quayle who decried the influence of the "Cultural Elite." Sort of the RW way of saying, we are ignorant, uneducated, unsophisticated thugs, so pay no attention to anyone with more than three brain cells who might criticize us...
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:10 AM
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15. How about Falwell attacking Tinky-Winky from the Teletubbies?
Even the Repubs were ready to "certify" him as insane for that.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:18 AM
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18. Pardon my straying from the topic, but
Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 11:18 AM by Cat Atomic
seeing Marilyn Manson in your list reminded of that moment in Bowling for Columbine when Moore asks Manson what he'd tell the shooters if they were present. Manson says something to the effect of, 'I wouldn't say anything, I'd listen to them. Which is something nobody else did".

It's such a surreal moment, and a very insightful observation. The only person with any perspective on the whole situation was being accused of causing it.
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Kid_A Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:14 PM
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24. I remember that too
It's one of the more effective scenes in that movie, I think. It just shows how conservatives are so quick to attack the easiest target that they don't realize how smart and articulate that person might be in real life.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:08 PM
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22. James Watt and the Beach Boys
Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 12:09 PM by RatTerrier
Reagan's Sec. of the Interior, James Watt, thought they attracted "the wrong element".

Wanted Wayne Newton instead.

James Watt has given us all enough material for decades.

And what he did to the environment is the most obscene thing I could ever think of.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:10 PM
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23. Ronald Reagan vs the Welfare Queen
still waiting for them to find one.

Of course, now, RR would lose, being dead, but the Supreme Court would award the match to him on a technicality.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:23 PM
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25. How about Repubs SUPPORTING fictional characters?
Quayle (Dubya Light) once sited the need to increase military spending based on the events described in a Tom Clancy novel. . . does that count?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:09 PM
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26. Hi aden_nak!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:16 PM
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27. Um, most of those people are real.
Unless the definition of fictional has changed.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:21 PM
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29. blowjob and the fall of a nation.
Starr special report
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