Who does Bill Clinton sleep with?

[skjpm]

Under other circumstances, this would be none of my business, but if he's going to sell his book on the basis of being a "reformed sinner," I'd like to know if he's actually reformed. If he's going to be honest, he needs to say whether he continues to have sex outside of his marriage. All this "We spent a day a week in counseling" stuff needs to be backed up with action. He wants to build his legacy, fine--he needs to build it on his personal values. I admire him as a legislator, and if he wanted to write a book about the laws he got passed, then he should have stuck to that. But if he wants me to admire him as a man, I need to know that he has learned from his mistakes. He has invited me into his life by writing this book, and I would like some honest answers. I want to know if he's left out any current affairs.

[taxidriver]

1. prepare for flamage.

lol.

[disinfo_guy]

119. 120 responses to this - amazing huh?

why did we bother?

[russian33]

2. 'he needs to say whether he continues to have sex..'

I'm sorry, I don't follow...needs to because? He's not the President...he's not a public figure right now...why does he need to explain anything that he does right now? Now as it was back then, it's between him, Hilary and Chelsea.

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[wndycty]

4. Your mamma. . .

. . .why do you care?

[redqueen]

ya, right

The constitution is being shredded, we're now involved in wars of aggression, our treasury is being emptied to the benefit of the rich and multinational corporations...

but let's discuss clinton's penis some MORE.

:puke:

[Spazito]

5. Ummm, maybe it is best to read his book first to find out what's in it...

and what's not. He might even say what he has learned from his mistakes.

[XNASA]

6. It's none of your f*ckin' business.

It's none of mine either.

Why are you so fascinated with Bill Clinton's penis?

[alittlelark]

129. THEY are truly fascinated, repulsed and desirous

of the Big Dog's dick. Pathetic.

[Bunny]

7. Why are you demanding the right to know?

He's not asking you for anything.

on edit: let's see if the OP ever returns to this thread! Could it be another drive-by posting?

[rfranklin]

11. Only Republicans have that right....

and they can only ask Democrats.

[GainesT1958]

8. Why do we care?

Nowadays, I'd wager Hillary, and ONLY Hillary! (Not that it's any of our DAMN business, of course!)x(

B-)

[BigMcLargehuge]

20. And how

I don't give a shit who he sleeps with... I didn't then, nor do I now. AS if that is anywhere near as important as what good and bad he did for the country.

And BJs have NOTHING to do with it.

[Justice]

9. Right, and I want details about the "lump in the bed"

and by the way, I demand that Condi tell us the real details on why she referred to Bush* as her husband...

[rfranklin]

10. Thank God, there's no sex in the White House now...

I think it would be a case of bestiality: Chimpanzee copulating with a human.

[clydefrand]

24. There's a HUMAN in that mess??

Coulda fooled me! Even Laura is suspect!

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[MajorFlaw]

12. I didn't care then and I don't care now. Isn't respect for privacy

a good part of the point here? If Clinton hadn't lied about his relationship with Lewinsky under oath, it would have been completely irrelevant to any inquiry of his conduct as president.

[DenverDem]

13. Who do you sleep with?

Are you gay? Do you drink? Do you abuse prescription drugs? Do you cheat on your taxes? Etc.

You have invited me into your judgemental life by posting in a public place, so I would like some honest answers.

[jedicord]

14. Clinton's Penis! Clinton's Penis!

How 'bout War of Lies! War of Lies!

Let's look into that first....

[LuminousX]

15. none of my business

and I don't care.

Clinton doesn't have to justify anything to me.

[Bridget Burke]

16. Who cares?

If your own life is so devoid of interest, I suggest you start watching soap operas.

He doesn't owe anybody but Hilary this information.

[clydefrand]

17. Why do you care?

I don't care who is sleeping/having sex with whom. I think 60-Minutes did an injustice by spending so much time talking about the sex issues. But then sex sells.

[Justitia]

18. Me?

At least I dreamt he did.
Happy now?

BTW, he was not a "legislator", he was an executive.

Invited you into his life? Any current affairs?
Do you write for Drudge?
Or do you have make-believe relationships with people on TV?

[clydefrand]

39. Happy to meet

another dreamer--Lady Texan:bounce: :bounce:

[Justitia]

49. hee, hee nice to meet you too! I have a repub friend...

...and I used to drive her intentionally insane by telling her I was only going to vote for Clinton 'cuz he was cute (this was for his 2nd term). Of course, not true, he has the same b-day as me and that was the REAL reason - ha, ha, ha!

Anyway, it sure was fun to watch her turn all purple whenever I said that.

[MISSDem]

61. Love it Lady Texan. Like Eleanor Clift is said to have

allowed as to how she wouldn't mind being one of the Clinton wenches.

[Judi Lynn]

95. Good post. I wondered too, when Clinton was ever a Congressguy. Hmmm. n/t

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

19. Oh bullshit

and he isn't sleeping with me..I'm saving myself for Jack Kennedy :eyes:

[clydefrand]

45. I'd say

he wouldn't need any Viagra!! Stiff enough!

[Mandate My Ass]

21. Is this a joke?

It's so self-righteously over the top that I'm pretty
sure it must be satire.

[West Coast Democrat]

22. You're Joking, Right?

You almost had me going there!!

[skjpm]

33. If we can ask about Bush's drinking

We can ask about Clinton's sex life. If Clinton is going to be some kind of leader in this party, and it turns out he's still lying, then he's going to to damage to Kerry's campaign. If some reporter discovers him in an affair after this big, public claim of reformation, then that's going to set the party back. I think Clinton's sex life is the main reason we have Bush in office now--Gore should not have had to waste effort making up for his president's mistakes.

And aren't you less-nosy-than-thou people constantly bringing this up about Bush's drinking? Is he still drinking or not?

[West Coast Democrat]

38. I don't think a current pResident's alcoholism and an ex-

President's sex-life are on quite the same level of importance.

[jedicord]

46. Drinking Can Cause Bad Judgement/Actions

Yep, Bush is still drinking!

[supernova]

50. You may ask the question

the answer IS NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS, nor mine.

Answer me this: since when has sexual purity ever denoted great leadership skills?

As for pecadilloes v alcoholism, Clinton's activities didn't affect his job performance. We have eons of evidence that alcoholism does affect job performance. So yes, we should know about that because we taxpayers are paying his salary.

[playahata1]

113. True. FDR cheated on Eleanor -- before AND during the White House years.

And look what HE accomplished.

[VolcanoJen]

51. Actually, we CAN'T ask Bush about his drinking.

We can't ask him about his alleged cocaine abuse either... the Bushes don't answer these kinds of questions. They have deemed such questions to be none of the American electorate's business.

Now, that being said, I do find the President's current level of sobriety to be extremely relevant to his ability to handle his position and office.

But that's just me... but there's no point in asking, because Bush isn't answering. He's not answering any of our questions, to be perfectly frank.

And, even if The Clenis is still having extra-marital affairs, I sincerely doubt such a revelation will "bring the party down." But you can continue dreaming... it's probably Bush's only hope of actually becoming one of the legitimately elected Presidents.

[hlthe2b]

87. Hell, we don't even get to ask if he has imprisoned our next door neighbor

or any other American CITIZEN in Gitmo! Christ, if this question by the original poster is for real (and not just an intentional disruption), what on earth can some people be thinking?

Twilight zone, here we are...

[MISSDem]

63. Don't you get it? Bill can do whatever he wants and folks still

love him. He spoke at a Black awards dinner in Memphis and used the N word and no one missed a beat - not one eyebrow was even raised. He is loved.

[West Coast Democrat]

84. Can you give a link and a context?

[Carolina]

104. cause he's our honorary brotha

and I'm sure he used it in the context of a story.

Nice try, but we know who our real friends are.

[West Coast Democrat]

105. That story is SO Free Republic!

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[Carolina]

102. we talk about Bush's drinking because

it has obviously affected HIS THINKING. Duh!

On second thought, I give him too much credit. He killed too many neurons, or what few he had in his inbred brain, through drinking. So regardless of whether he's still drinking, the damage was done long ago.

And BTW, Bill's sex life is not the reason Chimpster is in the WH. If Bill could have run again, he would have WON! And Gore did WIN! In case you forget, certain Extremes stopped the counting and awarded the WH to Mr. Entitled, the poster boy for affirmative action for the white, wealthy and well-connected.

Lastly, if you're so concerned about Bill's exploits, could it be you'd like a little fellating but as with so many repukes, no one wants to do you?!

[Toucano]

127. Where did you hear or read

Clinton say he'd not have any further affairs?

I wasn't aware he'd made that claim.

[kaitykaity]

23. Quoting Darrel Hammond's Chris Matthews,

"I can't even count how many ways that's stupid."

But the one main way -- yeah, go ahead and give the right
wingers ANOTHER distraction from the crimes committed by the
Bush cabal.

Sexual puritanism has no standing right now. Our kids are
dying and our treasury is being bankrupted and our environment
is being destroyed and our judiciary is a national joke and
on and on and on and on and on and you want to talk about
where the CLENIS sleeps?

[JI7]

25. i think Clinton is a good man even if he has affairs

i consider it a personal thing between him and his wife. i think he is a good man based on what he does and has done overall with his life. and the reason he mentions some of this in his book was because it turned into a public issue with right wingers trying to get him out of office over it. and he talks about many other things in his book. it's the media which focuses on that one part. just as they did when he was in office.

[MISSDem]

69. As Bill Clinton has said, "They spent many millions of dollars

to prove that I'm a sinner. I could have told them that for nothing".

[SheepyMcSheepster]

26. i don't care. if we cared about all politician's sexual "relations"

we would have a lot to care about. bill clinton does not mean anything to me at this point. he is no longer president.

[Connie_Corleone]

27. This is just a wild guess

His wife?? :shrug:

[Padraig18]

28. Does the phrase 'It's none of your business' ring a bell? n/t

[Tatiana]

29. Unless you're Hillary Clinton, it shouldn't be any of your business. n/t

[jukes]

30. not me

so: why IS it that you're so interested in this?

[Submariner]

32. The BUSH RAPE ROOMS and TORTURE CELLS

are higher on my list of things to have resolved, but thanks for the prurient interest in citizen Bill Clinton though. See ya.

[VolcanoJen]

34. In the same vein, how many men, women and children...

... has George W. Bush been complicit in the murder of?

Far more relevant to my life... your life may vary.

:eyes:

[progressivebydesign]

35. Um.. your post is probably the most pathetic I've seen on DU.

Sorry. Not a flame... an observation. Who REALLY cares? Do you really care? Are you some sort of voyeur? With all that is going on, you really feel the need to bring up Clinton's sex life? I believe Kinsey did a pretty comprehensive study about sex a few decades back.

Sooo.. the Clinton bashing is back. This is pathetic.

[Brahma Bull]

36. I could care less who he sleeps with.

It's none of my or anyone elses business.

[Retired AF Dem]

37. Dan Rather?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

40. Who cares?

I waited for him to have the guts to tell the press to stuff it, that his sex life was his business.

I wish he'd just go back to Arkansas and shut up.

[aquart]

41. This remains none of your business.

It never was.

I expect this post to be locked.

[lancdem]

42. You should read the book first

I'm certain there's plenty in there that has to do with his record.

[Sparkle]

43. Unfortunately, not me!

I'd like a piece of him!:evilgrin:

[obnoxiousdrunk]

44. Are these

the talking points at Freeper land ?

[skjpm]

52. Clinton's lies can damage Kerry's chances

Regardless of how we may feel, the public judges the Democrats based on our attitudes toward Clinton. If Clinton turns out to be lying again, many will turn their backs on Kerry, whether that is fair or not. If you want Bush out of the White House, it seems to me you would care if a leader of the Democratic Party was caught in one more big lie.

And, Clinton wants a legacy. Carter has built is legacy on personal integrity backed with public service. If Clinton wants my respect, he needs to look to Carter's example.

And I think people keep bringing up the first Bush's affairs and Neil Bush's divorce as being relevant. I sense a bit of hypocrisy on this list.

[Sparkle]

53. Clinton doesn't want your respect. He wants you to buy his BOOK!

[obnoxiousdrunk]

56. I don't think

his sex life has anything to do with his legacy. Do you have any idea what he has done after his presidency ?? Go check it out.

[supernova]

67. OK, I admit it

I sleep with Bill Clinton.

[VolcanoJen]

73. So, don't respect Clinton. Who cares?

The vast majority of Democrats, which include the majority electorate which will place John Kerry in the White House, respect Bill Clinton, and likely always will.

I don't honestly care if Clinton hasn't earned your respect. Don't vote for Kerry, if Clinton's penis offends you so much. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense, but arguing with folks like you is, in the words of the New York Times, "mind-numbingly boring."

And I'm sure Chimpy would trade his legacy for Clinton's any day of the week. :D

[hippiegranny]

85. oh, yes, i'll bet clinton is simply panting

to earn your respect. at this point he either has it or he doesn't. this is a stupid thread and i cannot believe i am contributing to the life of it.

[Carolina]

106. if the public judges

the Democrats based on our attitudes toward Clinton, then we're screwed? What utter bullshit.

I daresay much of the public judges Repukes on their attitude toward Bush 43.

So if, that's the yardstick, your yardstick I might add, then we, the Democrats, ahead.

It's the stupidity

[Tsiyu]

Carter Lusted, too

Should we demonize Carter cuz he said in a Playboy interview that one of his sins was Lusting in his heart after gals who weren't Rosalyn?? Take a deep breath. We all have genitals. It's okay. What you do with yours and what i do with mine and what Clinton does with his have NO BEARING on what is happening in this nation. If you care this much, you are feeding at the same trough as the obsessed RW's

[demnan]

47. First, technically the President

is not a legislator. Those guys in Congress are legislators. And speaking of Congress, as long as we're looking at private lives, lets make sure all the Congress are completely open and forthright about their sex lives if they are going to judge Clinton on his. Also the Supreme Court Justices and while we're at it the media as well.

[Misunderestimator]

48. I suppose he should tell you how many times a day he...

masturbates? Sheesh.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

54. Yes.. a person who posts masturbatory bullshit would definitely be

concerned about someone else slamming their ham.

[Misunderestimator]

57. LOL...

:bounce:

[Cheswick2.0]

108. It's called posterbation

and people with no life do it all the time.

[Pathwalker]

117. ROTFLMAO!!!! Posterbation!

Thanks, I needed that! I LOVE it!!!

[struggle4progress]

55. Yawn.

:boring: :boring: :boring:

[Jay Bradfield]

58. Who cares?

I think it's pretty unfortunate that this stuff is still an issue.

Why should these things even concern people? We've really turned back the clock when it comes to sexual issues.

People have all sorts of relationships, let Bill and Hillary sort theirs out on their own.

All of this sexual scandal crap is just used by corporate politicians to distract Americans from a system that is rigged against them.

[redqueen]

60. Sweet!

"All of this sexual scandal crap is just used by corporate politicians to distract Americans from a system that is rigged against them."

:yourock:

Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[LandOLincoln]

59. And this is your business how, exactly?? n/t

[hlthe2b]

62. I would say that is none of your (or my) damned business.

as his sexual escapades were no business of Ken Starr and all the rest of the RW ilck.

I'm sure you'll find many who want to discuss this on www.freerepublic.com. Enjoy your time there.

[skjpm]

70. Clinton's legacy will be built on his personal integrity

I can't understand why questioning his marital fidelity is off-limits since he is currently in the process of building his legacy. I think it took a lot of chutzpah for Clinton to install a life-size Oval Office in his library--do you think there might be any jokes about the little room to the side? or cigars on the desk? How much worse will it be if it turns out he learned nothing from the Monica episode and remained a womanizer? How will that show up in his library?

If he wants my help in restoring his reputation, if he wants me to tell my friends that I still admire him and trust his reformation, then he damn well better not be lying to me now.

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[Mandate My Ass]

81. Send him a list of your demands

I'm sure he'll acquiesce and set up a lie detector
screening and whatever other reassurance you'll require
since his legacy is utterly dependent upon your support. :silly:

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[playahata1]

115. according to whom, buddy?

Do YOU set THE standards on how the President of the United States should behave? Methinks NONE of the 43 will qualify, based on YOUR standards.

Thomas Jefferson/Sally Hemmings, anyone? How about FDR/Lucy Mercer? Ike/Kay Summersby Morgan? JFK/Honey, take your pick?

[playahata1]

116. According to whom, Buddy?

Do YOU set THE standards on how the President of the United States should behave? Methinks NONE of the 43 will qualify, based on YOUR standards.

Thomas Jefferson/Sally Hemmings, anyone? How about FDR/Lucy Mercer? Ike/Kay Summersby Morgan? JFK/"Honey, take your pick!"?

[oldcoot]

120. There would be jokes about cigars no matter what Clinton did

The Clinton Presidential Library will probably receive more visitors initially than the other presidential libraries because of curiosity about the man's sex life. However, I suspect that many of these visitors will soon be disappointed when they discover that the library contains mainly "boring" historical documents.

I also suspect that Clinton's current and future sexual behavior will receive very little attention from archivists and library staff. Instead, the Clinton Presidential Library will probably contain mostly materials from his presidency if the library's "Virtual Library" web page is any indication (see http://clinton6.nara.gov/ for more information) and will not contain a lot of materials related to his life after the presidency.

[Catherine Vincent]

64. I have to confess....

He sleeps with me on occasion. I am not supposed to tell anyone but you are the first person to ask. The nerve of you!

[Bridget Burke]

65. Me, too.

But it's OK with Hilary!

[Mandate My Ass]

66. And me too...but you already knew that

:evilgrin:

[supernova]

71. I sleep with Bill!

:D

Hey, we could start a club.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

72. Ladies, please. Let's not turn this into an ugly talk show moment.

;)

[VolcanoJen]

76. Shaddup, killjoy!!

:D

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

80. OK then. Get your popcorn ready. n/t

[Cheswick2.0]

110. I slept with him last night

I did, really. Now I am going to write a book.

[peacetalksforall]

68. YOU need to know?

You need to know? "I need to know that he has learned from his mistakes. He has invited me into his life by writing this book, and I would like some honest answers."

That's what a batallion of right wing guest experts and their hosts said for ten years.

I'm going to advise Clinton not to tell you unless you tell us what you've learned from your 'imperfections' and any attempt to cover them up.

Come on, just fess up. Come on, just step forward. Come on, just admit it. Come on, just say your sorry. Those are some of the mantras of this batallion that any general would envy for its size and dedication and assassination successes.

You can start by telling us your age and providing a brief bio and litany of your purity. And let's not hear that you are ONLY a citizen and he is a former President.

[skjpm]

74. Reagan's legacy is built on his post-presidential years

Bush got a boost because of the positive press Reagan got for how he dealt with his problems after he was president. I admire Nancy for her stand on stem-cell research, an issue which she has been able to speak for because of the goodwill towards her husband. Clinton needs to build that same goodwill, and it won't happen if he's still lying.

[supernova]

78. No, Reagan's legacy

is more built (wrongly IMO) in the famous "Tear down this Wall!" speech in Berlin.

The fact that he so eloquently acknowledged his Alzheimer's in later years is merely icing.

And no, not a fan of Reagan.

So, in great detail, what is your sexual history skjpm?

[redqueen]

79. "it won't happen if he's still lying"

Please.

Reagan lied all the time, and was incompetent when he *wasn't* lying, and people still ... well you know. People won't treat Clinton any differently.

I admit the press will TRY like you are here to MAKE it an issue, but it won't work then, just like it's not working now.

:)

[Cheswick2.0]

109. I am sure it will all be clear at the great unmasking

:hi:

[iconoclastic cat]

75. Camilla, behind poor Gonzo's back

[redqueen]

82. I missed something: when did he say the basis for the book was

him being a 'reformed sinner'

:shrug:

[Zorra]

83. Why would this question be so important to you that

you need to post it at DU? Maybe he addresses this issue in his book.

What makes you state that he is trying to sell his book on the basis of being a "reformed sinner"? Has President Clinton, or anyone else other than some wingnut, ever said that he is selling his book on this basis?

Pre-orders of his book exceed 2 million. Isn't that great?
:bounce:

Your post has the appearance of being a somewhat veiled attempt to disparage President Clinton for some reason.

Drop Bill a line and ask him, because none of us can possibly know the answer to your question, and frankly I don't give a damn.

[TWiley]

88. With a clear conscious and the love of all true Americans

[redqueen]

89. Best answer yet!

:loveya:

[VOX]

90. Clinton's "public" sex life is only "public" because of the Right Wing...

His sex life was politicized into a pseudo-issue. Only the Right Wing is obsessed with Clinton's sex life -- years of investigation and $70 million taxpayer dollars spent, and what did the inquisitors find -- a fu*king blow job!!!

So A) Clinton's sex life is nobody's business; and B) I wouldn't worry about it.

[belladonna]

91. I was just going to read this thread and leave it alone

But now I'm curious about you. Some of the things you say lead me to believe you're a troll, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt here, okay? So, in the interest of full disclosure, the same disclosure you seem to expect from a man who is now a private citizen, answer a few questions.

First, did vote for Clinton? Both in 92 AND 96? The relevance of this question will be explained at a later time, if and when you pass the troll test.

Second, if you did vote for Clinton in either election, please tell us why. Do you believe that he was a great Prez, DESPITE the witchhunt the right wing nutjobs subjected him to? If so, what do you think his greatest accomplishments were?

Last, but certainly not least, who did you vote for in the 2000 election? I REALLY want to know the answer to this, and hope that you will provide us with an honest answer.

[Jacobin]

92. Who cares who's doing who?

Are you Ken Starr?

Come on. Fess up. Wouldn't it be even just slightly more important what his record was as president?

Oh nevermind

:-)

[Shakespeare]

93. This may be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read at DU.

Your outrage is duly noted. :eyes:

[Hutzpa]

94. Do You Need A Blow Job?

since you're asking bout something that doesn't concern you,
seems to me you're missing one, maybe getting one might help you. Make me wonder, ARE YOU A SPOOK?

answer these questions if you can.

:silly: :wtf:

[Tactical Progressive]

97. I hope, if he's telling us that he really is 'reformed'

that he's sleeping with as many different women as his and Hillary's marriage can accept.

That's probably none, but the point is that it isn't anybody's business but his, and the rest of us are owed nothing more than lies for any of it.

In fact, a lie is better than anyone deserves that's so sanctimonious and prying that they thing they have a right to know anything.

Here's the moral calculus: You ask / he lies = he's ahead on ethical points.

[jus_the_facts]

98. I don't give a flyin' fuck thru a flamin' hoola hoop who he screws....

.....never WAS my business to know anything at all about where he puts his dick!! GET OVER IT! :eyes:

[Spirochete]

99. Why are you people

still so obsessed with Clinton's sex life? He's not even holding any public ofice anymore. You just can't let it go, can you?

[dryan]

100. Let me get this straight?

A few weeks ago I posted a poll so people could vote on the "Sexiest Democrat" and was flamed for being vapid (to use one of the more mild words), but yet the moderators let this one get by.

[Carolina]

101. none of your damn business

and I don't recall that he is asking you "to admire him as a man."

The only people to whom it should matter are Bill and Hillary. That's the way it should have been all along. Unlike Gary Hart, Bill never invited the press to follow him and see what he was up to, never encouraged them to dig into Jennifer (lounge lizard skank) Flowers, Paula (looking to get paid) Jones or Monica (kneepads) Lewinsky. The RW pushed this personal dig while all along many of their cohort were having fellatio and more.

[gatlingforme]

103. PAAAAALEEEEEEEZE. give me an effing break.

[Cheswick2.0]

107. None of your business

what a ridiculous point of view. He told you some information, so now you are entitiled to more? No, I think you are just hot for some gossip. Go by the Star.

[Gemini Cat]

111. The more important question is:

With whom do I sleep with?
I can't think of anyone's sex life being more important than my own.
Of course, I'm sure others might disagree with me.

[0007]

112. What a joketer you are! He never ever invited YOU into his life

Your freedom ends where Bill Clinton's nose begins

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[RummyTheDummy]

118. My my

It must have taken you a long time to build up that post count.

[slutticus]

121. Bill Clinton is my real father....

...and I'm damn proud of it!

[skjpm]

126. I voted for Bill Clinton in '92 and'96

And I loudly defended him to everyone who denounced him. I left the Roman Catholic Church for the Anglican Church because the bishop allowed leaflets to be distributed which suggested true Catholics should not vote for him (an eerie prophecy of today's issue with Kerry). I met Tony Campolo, one of his ministers, briefly, and complimented him on his courage, and told him to tell President Clinton that I thought he was the most Christian president of the 20th century. I thought, and think, that he passed the most important and progressive legislation of the last 50 years.

But I don't have to condone adultery. And I don't have to admire a man who won't be fully honest. If he's going to lie, then don't write the book. If he has an open marriage, then he should be up front about it. He shouldn't be afraid of stating clearly the values by which he lives.

I don't want a man stumping for Democratic candidates in such an important election to be carrying baggage which will bring disrepute to the party. I can't imagine how he plans to represent the fight against AIDS in Africa if he has not shown his ability to control his own womanizing tendencies. I DON'T CARE WHAT HE DOES IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE--but if he wants to have a say in the public sector, his values should match his words.

[Raster]

122. who cares, it's his business.

[puerco-bellies]

123. Wow you've lasted 660 + posts.

Nicely done.

[Piperay]

124. Me...

:P I wish, sigh. :loveya: I hated Monica cause I was so jealous of her wishing it could have been me that caught Big Dawg's attention. :argh:

[Toucano]

125. Wrong. It's still none of your business.

He's invited you to read his book. What you make of that is up to you, and he has no further obligation to you than to deliver the book you paid for.

Stop acting like such a fascist.

[skjpm]

128. I've seen some speculation about Bob Dole and Viagra

on this board. Some suggest he might not be using it for Elizabeth. But that's OK. We can talk about him. We would never, ever, ever, bring up the subject when Elizabeth is running for Senate or President.

I think I've seen some people speculate that Bush is gay and that his visits Tennessee for little holidays. But that's his business and we'd never let it affect his election chances.

You are a bunch of hypocrites. Nyah, nyah, nyah.

[Mandate My Ass]

130. *I* don't want, *I* don't forgive

I want to know, I can't believe,
I'm entitled, I won't support, I need
reassurance, I demand proof, I've been lied
to, I think sex is dirty.....

Issues....yeah but they're yours, not his.

[Toucano]

131. Watch where you throw them "you"s!

I have never discussed anyone's private sex life on DU, but I'd like to point out for you a big distinction between what you've cited as examples of hypocricy and what your original post in this thread says.

In discussing Dole's Viagra or Bush's alleged gay sex trysts, people are pointing out the inconsistancy between what these individuals support as public policy and what they do in their private lives.

That's different from Bill Clinton's infidelity. He never proposed any legislation or public policy that suggested you and I adhere to his standard of sexual propriety. Not once.

Bob Dole and GWB and other republicans want to tell me to regulate my sex life in a particular fashion because it's "morally superior". If they don't govern their own libidos in that morally superior manner, then it should be known because it contradicts their positions on public policy.

The problem with your post is it assumes that Bill Clinton has made some sort of deal with you that he'll never have an extra-marital affair again in exchange for you supporting him. This would match your standard of sexual propriety and permit you to "forgive" him.

I'm not aware of any such deal. As far as I've heard and read, Bill simply expresses regret over losing the battle with his personal demons and causing pain to his wife and daughter.