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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:17 PM
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Heads Up: Read Anthony Lewis' article in the new NYRB!!!
http://www.nybooks.com/


It's not on-line tonight, but probably will be there tomorrow. It will make you sick about what the Bushists have done with the law since 9/11. It's not really news, as it's been reported for the last month what sick bastards Gonzalez, Woo and crew are, making the case that because of 9/11 Bush is God and can do whatever the fuck he wants to do with any human life on the planet, just because they say so. But Lewis puts it together very well, and cites numerous examples of the lawlessness of the Bush lawyers. It's infuriating! :grr: And frightening! :scared:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:54 PM
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 11:24 PM
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2. It's up now. Here's the url.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 11:25 PM
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3. Thanks, hedda!
Edited on Wed Jun-23-04 11:28 PM by BurtWorm
:hi:

PS: Ooops! That's the wrong article. That's a must read, though. This one is not a review; it's a commentary on the torture memoranda.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 06:54 AM
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 07:33 AM
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5. good article
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:10 AM
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6. Did you read the article in print?
The one hedda referred to is not the one I was raving about yesterday. It's still not on line. But it's worth buying the latest issue of NYRB to read it.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:31 AM
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7. The Lewis article is up: Making Torture Legal
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17230

The issues raised by the Bush administration's legal assertions in its "war on terror" are so numerous and so troubling that one hardly knows where to begin discussing them. The torture and death of prisoners, the end result of cool legal abstractions, have a powerful claim on our national conscience. They are described in horrifying detail in a report published recently by Human Rights Watch, "The Road to Abu Ghraib." But equally disturbing, in its way, is the administration's constitutional argument that presidential power is unconstrained by law.

President Bush and his administration have used the September 11 attacks again and again as an argument for expanded executive power. A signal example is the claim that the President can designate any American citizen as an "enemy combatant" and have him or her imprisoned in soli-tary confinement, indefinitely, without trial or access to counsel. That is the claim now before the Supreme Court in the cases of José Padilla and Yasser Hamdi.

The assertion in the various legal memoranda that the President can order the torture of prisoners despite statutes and treaties forbidding it was another reach for presidential hegemony. The basic premise of the American constitutional system is that those who hold power are subject to the law. As John Adams first said, the United States is meant to be a government of laws, not men. For that Bush's lawyers seem ready to substitute something like the divine right of kings.

For me, the twisting of the law by lawyers is especially troubling. I have spent my life believing that the safety of this difficult, diverse country lies to a significant extent in the good faith of lawyers?in their commitment to respect the rules. But the Bush lawyers have been brazen in their readiness to twist, dissemble, and invent in the cause of power.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:03 AM
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:33 AM
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9. Hope people are reading this article.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:14 AM
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10. The article that's linked with the review of Ignatieff's book is excellent
but others here are saying there's another article? Is there a link to the other one?

Anyway, the one I read was excellent and there are some good quotes there to use in arguments with folks who say "in times of war a President has to do whatever he can to fight terrorists including torture." A family member of mine said that to me recently in support of what was done to the prisoners in Abu Graib. I was totally horrified at the comment from this person because I didn't expect it and ended up saying it was "morally wrong," where the person said, "Well what Osama and Saddam did was wrong, so it's morally correct that we do to them what they would do to us." I wish I'd had some of the quotes from this article in the back of my mind when I heard that statement. It would have given me lots of support. As it was, I just answered with a lame comment that "Two wrongs don't make a right" and ended the discussion before it got into a big argument.

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