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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:38 PM
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Kerry-REAGAN in 04!!
An unstoppable team. How could the repugs run attack ads against Ron Reagan Jr.

Below is the link to tonight's interview with Reagan by Larry King. Read past the Justin Falconer interview to find such gold as this:

REAGAN: And I think we lied our way into the war.

KING: You think it's a mistake?

REAGAN: Absolutely, a terrible mistake. Terrible foreign policy error. We didn't have to do it. It was optional. And we were lied to. The American public was lied to about WMD, the connection between Osama bin Laden and Saddam, which is virtually nonexistent except for fleeting contacts. But they're still trying to pull that one off now, Cheney and all are out there flogging that.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0406/23/lkl.00.html
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:43 PM
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1. I'm guessing...
there's a skeleton or two in that closet.
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morcatknits Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:55 PM
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2. Reagan Interview
I'm not lobbying for RR the younger for office, however, he did make some really good points, tonight. For once, King didn't try to cut him off and change the subject, which RR kept bringing up during the almost-hour.

Good knitting,
MorcatKnits
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:58 PM
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3. I'm not saying he's not a great guy...
just that he seems a little like the party boy type to me. I could be totally wrong there though. Is he even old enough?
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 11:02 PM
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5. He's 46
Older than Kennedy, younger than Jesus.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 11:03 PM
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6. he's 46
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 11:04 PM
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7. He's 46.
What do you mean by "party boy"?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 11:57 PM
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9. Bush is the ultimate party boy and he got "elected"
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:10 AM
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24. Fair enough...
:silly:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:12 AM
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18. He was never the "Party Boy"...that's the current "occupant" of the oval
...office...

Doesn't mean he didn't have fun in his life (loved the SNL Risky Business Skit while Dad was in the White House) but he was someone who focused on his career as a dancer and is someone more comfortable reading a book or being with his wife at home...not a partier type, he's an intellectual...
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:11 AM
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25. I should obviously shut up...
when I don't know what I'm talking about.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:36 AM
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27. would that others would follow your advice. eom
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 11:00 PM
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4. Maybe he could run for Congress and get a little experience first.
:eyes:
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:07 AM
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10. Amen. Maybe he could actually accomplish something other than ...
... having a name and hosting TechTV.

Jesus Christ, all this Reagan, Jr worship around here is just creepy.

So the guy isn't a puke. Wow, let's make him president. Glad to hear he has a brain, like at least 50 million other Americans.

What an insult to every great Democratic who had no money, no stature, no name recognition, and laid everything on the line to become who they are.

Hell, Al Sharpton deserves our respect more than this dweeb.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:15 AM
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11. He's doing the right thing
he's in the position, not by his own choice, but he is making the choice to do the right thing. He doesn't have to. He's not selling a book, he's speaking out for the country he loves. He's putting forth his own effort to heal America.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:22 AM
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12. Using you father's death to bolster your career is the right thing?
Maybe he should write a book or accomplish something for chrissakes. The ONLY reason he is on these shows is because he was born.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what he says, but there are 50 - 60 million other people who could also state these positions. What makes this guy remarkable whatsoever other than his name?
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:38 AM
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14. Of course he shouldn't use his father's death
That's for OTHER people to do.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:42 AM
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15. What makes this guy remarkable whatsoever other than his name?
He has worked in recent years as a magazine journalist, and has hosted talk shows on cable TV networks such as the Animal Planet network. Reagan serves on the board of the Creative Coalition, an organization founded in 1989 by a group including Susan Sarandon and Christopher Reeve to politically mobilize entertainers and artists, generally for liberal causes.

Reagan has always been a political liberal, although he has never considered a political career. He is also reported to be an atheist, although his speech at his father's funeral in June 2004 suggested that he believes in an afterlife. He is known to have dissented from some of his father's policies and actions, but his views have only become widely known in recent years, when he has become more outspoken in his hostility to President George W. Bush.

In an April 2003 interview, Reagan was scathingly critical of Bush. "The Bush people have no right to speak for my father, particularly because of the position he's in now," he said. "Yes, some of the current policies are an extension of the '80s. But the overall thrust of this administration is not my father's - these people are overly reaching, overly aggressive, overly secretive, and just plain corrupt. I don't trust these people."

He also strongly opposed the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq. "Nine-11 gave the Bush people carte blanche to carry out their extreme agenda - and they didn't hesitate for a moment to use it," Reagan said. "By 9/12 Rumsfeld was saying, 'Let's hit Iraq.' They've used the war on terror to justify everything from tax cuts to Alaska oil drilling."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Reagan
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:48 AM
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20. Thanks for the Post! Newsmeat's been going off on RPR tonite....
Not sure why, but I have some suspicions...

Anyway, I was just about to post info on what Ron P. Reagan has done in his life - none of which has to do with "wrapping" himself in his father's name...

The only reason Ron is coming out in the news now is he is sick to his stomach about the Repukes and the Bush administration shamelessly trying to wrap themselves in his father's name.

He's done quite a bit in his life, all of which was done despite his name, which he was born with, no fault of his own.


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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 03:04 AM
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21. "Not sure why, but I have some suspicions..."??? Do you want to clarify?
Do you have the brass to back up your innuendo?

I'm sorry if I dont think Ronald P. Reagan is the second coming of Christ.

Actually, I have my suspicions about you with all your Reagan love...
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 03:26 AM
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22. "Reagan 2nd Coming of Christ"? "Reagan Love"??? Ha ha ha ha ha
A) I don't believe in any 2nd coming of anyone - unless its involving sex....

2)Reagan Love? - I didn't agree with any of his Father's policies, but as I have stated throughout my posts, Ronald P. Reagan is not his father and having met him socially on several occasions and seeing him in my old neighborhood at local places in Seattle, I have to say he is a very nice individual, not someone who lives on the coat tails of his father's name as you suggested and I'm extremely proud and excited about what he is doing in coming out against Bush and the Repukes...

Suspicious of Pachamama? Yeah, right...read my posts and know what I stand for....
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 05:13 AM
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23. Ha ha ha!!! 2nd cumming!
I hear ya!

Actually, I never really paid attention to RP Reagan until tonight. I guess I don't watch enough TV. But after I saw him tonight (I responded to a post by you earlier), I was very impressed... and he didn't have to be governor, president, the messiah. He was given the opportunity to speak his mind and he did - honestly.

I don't see how any Progressive, Democrat, or American could diss RP Reagan for what he said. He's totally right. And thank you for the "Seattle" perspective.

As for the other poster accusing you of RP Reagan love, well coun't me in for the orgy. I just became an RP Reagan lover!!! :loveya: :grouphug:

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:05 AM
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17. The fact that
Edited on Thu Jun-24-04 01:18 AM by GTRMAN
the other 50-60 million of us have been screaming these same things into a virtual "media vacuum" for all these months.How aggravating has the "non coverage" of the truth of what is going on been? If he has access to the press and is saying what needs to be said, I say go cat go!

<edited to add>

I bet this is going to tie Rush's, Hannity's, O Really's and the rest of the hate-radio prick's undies in a knot. How the hell are they going to rip into RR's son over this so close to his father's death? Talk about pissing off a bunch of the base. they are going to have to either ignore it or handle with kid gloves. :evilgrin:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:15 AM
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26. He Get Publicity While The Other Millions Don't? - n/t
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:38 AM
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28. I'm not sure how he's using his father's death to do anything
but bolster positions I agree with. If you read the transcript you will see that he says he has no intention of running for public office, that he doesn't think he could win if he did because he's an atheist, and gives a subtle put-down to folks who run on their daddy's name.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:53 AM
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16. He Told the Truth- No Hedging
Did you hear his interview? I'm no fan of the old man, but this guy has a very direct, no bs style. I'd like to hear a little more of that from our guys.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:20 AM
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19. Wow Newsmeat! Every posting you've had about him slams him?
Dweeb?

What's the Beef? I've seen about 8 postings on DU tonite so far in different forums where everything you say about Ron P. Reagan is negative...

Hmmm...just wondering why....Couldn't be because you know him, because if you did, you'd know he is a really good person...So his Dad was not the favorite person on the DU, but he isn't his father, has never tried to be and is his own person and a very intelligent and kind one at that.

And he delivered delicious body slams to the "current occupant of the White House" :kick:

What don't you like about this guy? (other than his name?)
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 11:56 PM
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8. thnaks for posting link to transcript... I don't have cable...
the part that really got me...

<snip>
You know, I hate to keep going back to the pictures of Abu Ghraib, but they're just, you know, they're emblematic of this, there's something wrong. And that the people in there right now are not like this guy we had then. This was a standup guy. This was an honorable guy. This is not a guy who would put the end run of the Geneva Convention so he could dunk somebody in the water until they thought they were drowning. You know, that's just -- yuck. You know, you really you just want to wash yourself off when you think of that. You didn't get that feeling with him.

<snip>
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:26 AM
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13. He doesn't WANT to go into politics
... he's said so repeatedly.

... because he likes being able to say what he thinks without the usual consequences. Also, he admits he's an atheist, and knows an atheist can't get elected to high office right now in this goofy country.

As is, he can do his dog-show commentary and do his hilarious political color reports for MSNBC, work for stem-cell research, and work with the nonprofit arts organization he mentioned on Larry King tonight, and just enjoy his life in Seattle with his wife and three cats.

As I've said before, I fell in love with the guy when he did the "Risky Business" dance in his underwear, on Saturday Night Live, while his father was in the White House. Too cool. I love him still! He's living proof that the same-named son-of-a-president doesn't have to be a total braying JACKASS!!!! Like YOU KNOW WHO!


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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:39 AM
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29. I absolutely love the guy!
I watched LKL last nite. I think he and Nancy are going to give * and company more headaches than they can stand.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:49 AM
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30. Why not Ronald Reagan, Sr.?
Edited on Thu Jun-24-04 09:50 AM by philosophie_en_rose
I'm sure the Repugs will flock around Frankenreagan.

Seriously, though, Ron Reagan Jr. is a liberal who far outqualifies Arnold Schwarzenegger, George W Bush, and other Republican celebrities.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 10:11 AM
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31. Not. I don't believe Ron understands what his Dad did in Iran-
Contra. If he does, I have never heard a dissent. His Dad was responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths and sold weapons to our enemies at the time and to Saddam.
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