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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:44 AM
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Are Bush's numbers improving?


The latest Fox News poll and the Federal Review indicate that Bush has gained a lead over Kerry. Is this a trend, a blip, or what?

I know Fox News is biased, but still some polls seem to show that Bush has gained. This really scares me. How can anyone still support this man? Am I just being too paranoid about the poll numbers??



http://www.federalreview.com/compositepoll.htm
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:46 AM
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1. Yes, Now He Can Get To Eleven!
Oh, you mean in the polls? Not legitimately.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:46 AM
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2. Most polls show Freepers' teeth dropping in record numbers.
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mstrsplinter326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:51 AM
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5. :) n/t
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Kong Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:49 AM
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3. The Nation Is Rising Out Of A Coma
The nation is comming alive and people are talking about the failures of the Bush administration. Even die hard supporters are starting to feel that maybe he may not be the right man for the job, those who simply supported him in 2000 are deserting him in droves. Fuck him.

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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:50 AM
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4. Then why are his numbers up in some polls?


Reagan bounce? I hope not...
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:52 AM
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7. Because Polls Say What The Person Paying For Them Wants Them To -n/t
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:53 AM
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8. It's exactly that
They still hadn't released major polls since his death, which means that's about when they were compiling the data.

And yeah, it scares the shit out of me that the fact that a man who hasn't held any kind of office in 20 years died would be enough to put a man into the most powerful position in the world, even though it's a completely irrelevant event.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:12 AM
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10. His number are bound to improve eventually ...
But: I wouldnt put much stock into them, no matter what ...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:51 AM
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6. Two things
1) The notable bias
2) These polls still have the Reagan bounce in them. That will fade. Wait til the Farenheit 9/11 bounce kicks in.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:58 AM
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9. I hope you're right...

..I see the point about data being collected during Reagan's funeral.

I still don't understand why it's so close. Thanks for your reply.
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FattyMcCraigs Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:04 PM
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11. When I took Statistics in College...
...My Stat Prof. gave us a little speech on the first day, the gist of it was: No matter how many trials you do, how many people you poll, at the end of the day, statistics are bullshit.

"Random" polls by their very nature have an extremely high deviance of error.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:06 PM
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12. Is Today Opposite Day?
Otherwise, no.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:07 PM
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13. Believe NO POLLS in either the Soviet Union nor Imperial Amerika
For the same reason: Totalitarians prefer their polls rigged and their "elections" pre-decided.

The problem in both of these countries is that their (our) Third World "Voting" Systems are pathetically corrupt and laughable.

The sad part is, no matter what happen in November, I will not believe the final results due to the fact that SO MANY Bushevik Manual and Electronic Disenfranchisement strategies have already been tested and plotted out.

Just like the Busheviks of the Old Soviet Union.
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