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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:50 PM
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Ready for this? The Conservative Film Festival
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000552469

Just as his "Fahrenheit 9/11" opens nationwide, several filmmakers are readying documentaries aimed at debunking Michael Moore, and a new film festival is being planned that will feature such works as well as other documentaries well to the right of Moore's films.

Scheduled Sept. 9-11 in Dallas, the American Film Renaissance, as the festival will be known, has just been announced by co-founder Jim Hubbard, who said it is bankrolled primarily by some "big-time conservative donors."

Hubbard currently is negotiating to show two films critical of Moore.

The first is "Michael Moore Hates America," made by newcomer Michael Wilson and funded partially by Brian Cartmell, who made a small fortune when he sold his Internet domain registration company, eNic, to Verisign. The feature film, made for $200,000 and featuring appearances from Penn Jillette and John Stossel, among others, is looking for a theatrical and DVD distribution deal.


The second is the bigger-budget effort "Michael & Me" that was made by talk-radio star and soon-to-be TV host Larry Elder. The 90-minute documentary takes on Moore's 2002 anti-gun documentary, "Bowling for Columbine," Elder said.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:51 PM
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1. You think the first movie would be "Triumph of the Will"
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:29 AM
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48. great...
movies with no sources and no "facts"...

guess I will have to miss it...!
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:51 PM
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2. Boy, that sounds exciting. (zzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:53 PM
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5. Yeah, sign me up zzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:52 PM
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3. LOL
Those guys don't have a creative bone in their bodies! A conservative film festival? Gimmee a break already.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:53 PM
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4. Penn Gillette? Of Penn and Teller? Isn't he liberal?
Or is he just anti-Michael Moore (yes, contrary to party line those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:55 PM
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9. Don't think so
The only times I've seen him hes come off as being a real whacko. Not a Bush fluffer exactly, but definately not a liberal either.
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Dragon Turtle Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:55 PM
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10. I think he's a Libertarian.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:15 PM
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16. He's just a tool
He calls himself a 'libertarian', but he constantly moans about the damage currently being done to the BOR and Constitution, while trashing all things liberal. He also rants and raves about how de-regulation is just peachy-keen, or at least he did before Enron and WorldCom. Maybe he learned something from that. But I doubt it.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:33 AM
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49. Libertarians are just GOPers who are ashamed to admit it
I've yet to find a "libertarian" who votes Democratic. Usually they have some issue of particular importance to them, mostly taxes or affirmative action, that overrides their discomfort at oppressive GOP social policies.
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:47 PM
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26. Don't worry - he won't say a word (no text)
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 02:48 PM by LastDemocratInSC
Or is that the other guy?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:57 PM
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41. No, he's just a loudmouth with a bad haircut and a semen-spattered...
copy of "Atlas Shrugged"
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:01 PM
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43. Penn
Anyone who's seen "Bullshit!" on Showtime can tell that Penn is a bright guy, socially liberal, fiscally not-so-much. He is a Libertarian.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:26 AM
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47. Damn. I actually LIKE Penn.
He's a super-smart guy and undoubtedly one of the hardest guys to fool in the world ( he knows all the tricks). Its disheartening that he is was fooled into helping pig repukes :(
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:38 AM
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50. Why is that "libertarians" are always more concerned
with taxes and affirmative action than say repressive and intrusive Christian Right social policies (which I assume would be anathema to them)? Libertarians are GOPers who are ashamed to admit that they'll get into bed with the Pat Robertsons and the John Ashcrofts of the world just so they can have a few extra tax dollers in their pockets. Fuck them and fuck him. They try to put themselves above party labels - but they always vote GOP.
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:50 AM
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56. Actually
1) Penn (and Teller) did an entire episode devoted to Christian bullshit. 2) He dislikes the fanatical right more than he hates the fanatical left. 3) I don't think he's a registered anything, just has Libertarian leanings. 4) he is anti-Christian, supports drug legalization, anti-government, and while he doesn't always have liberal opinions, he has liberal rationale for his opinions (ex: recycling actually does MORE damage to the environment, PETA kills animals, etc). Don't be a hypocrite. Before you start denouncing anyone or anything, at least familiarize yourself with it.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:53 PM
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6. I love how they tout Penn Jillette as some sort of authority
That asshole shoulda stuck to being a bad magician. lol.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:56 PM
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12. He's already been cited as an environmental "authority"
"Chicken Little greens blah blah balh environmental radicals blah blah blah we don't really know that the climate blah blah blah no scientific proof that pesticides are toxic blah blah blah American way of life blah blah blah . . ."

Come to think of it, Penn Gilette - John Stossell - what's the difference anyway?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:15 PM
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17. Penn is a conservative??
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 04:39 PM
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39. I'll bet he's just one of those guys that hates everyone
Liberal and Conservative.

Kinda like the South Park guys.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:54 PM
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7. Aw, Isn't That Cute?
I'm sure it will be as fun to watch as real-time erosion.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:54 PM
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8. Larry Elder soon to be TV Host??
Which network hired this idiot??

In regards to the conservative documentaries:

If they don't like your message they'll attack you! That's why what Clinton said was right. We must fight back against the right wing's attacks.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:22 PM
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20. Larry Elder
appeared on "Penn and Teller's Bullshit" as an expert on, I believe, seconhand smoke. He was brought on to support Penn's argument. That's when I knew Penn was no liberal.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:03 AM
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44. no network
it's syndicated show, like Oxyrush's was
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:55 PM
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11. Let's list some of the movies they'll be showing
Reefer Madness
I Was a Commie For the FBI
Red Nightmare
Communist Blueprint for Conquest
The Communist Weapon of Allure
Communist Target Youth
Face to Face with Communism
Anarchy U.S.A.
The Atom and Eve
Atomic Attack
The Atomic Cafe
Communists on Campus

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:57 PM
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13. "Birth Of A Nation"
Oh, and "Red Dawn"
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:25 PM
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21. And "Amerika"...
...just to remind people how close (snicker) the USSR (snort) came to utterly defeating us (BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!).
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:50 PM
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27. Wow! I remember that one
It was a miniseries from the mid-80's. About a Soviet takeover of the US.

And they had banners all over with pictures of Lenin and Lincoln.

Other than that, not very memorable.

"Red Dawn" was a better right wing movie.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 03:08 PM
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34. It was just like the "anti-Moore" films...
...a pile of elephant dung that was only produced as an "answer" to a "liberal" miniseries ("The Day After", which looked at "the Heartland" after a nuclear exchange).
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 04:23 PM
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38. "The Day After" was a great film!
And perhaps the scariest movie I've ever seen.

Very few people I know didn't have nightmares afterward.

A very effective film for the Reagan era.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:28 PM
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22. A few suggestions
The Alamo

I Led Three Lives

The Rambo Trilogy

The Green Berets

The Purple Heart

Sands Of Iwo Jima

Desperate Journey - (featuring Errol Flynn giving possibly the worst closing line of any movie ever made, wartime era notwithstanding -"Now for the Pacific and a crack at those Japs!"

9/11 - Day Of Decision

Cabin In The Sky









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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:58 PM
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32. You forgot "Red Dawn" ROFLMAO
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 06:45 AM
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55. "Wolverines!"
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 03:22 PM
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37. Don't forget "Bedtime for Bonzo"
Gotta have one for the Gipper.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:35 PM
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59. Seven Days in May
Paths of Glory
The Manchurian Candidate
A Clockwork Orange
Fail Safe
Dr. Strangelove



These films document conservatism pretty well.

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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:57 PM
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14. "Scheduled Sept. 9-11" - CLEVER!!!
And the winners of this year's Subtlety Prize . . .
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:13 PM
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15. Now don't they sound like
real winners? Don't think they will make it to Cannes though the $5 bin at Wal Mart is more like it.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:19 PM
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18. Somebody remind them
that they can't advertise on TV after July 30th. B-)
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:21 PM
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19. Larry Elder?
Isn't he not right in the head?
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:28 PM
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23. At least this is an appropriate reaction
if the choice is between the right wing whackos trying to stop FH911 from being shown or showing a contrary film, I prefer the latter.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:33 PM
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24. I'm sure it will outgross Gigli
I heard for refreshments that instead of popcorn they'll be serving marshmallows toasted on a burning cross...

:evilgrin:
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:47 PM
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25. So...what great features have they rounded up?
In the "Get A Life" department:

The first is "Michael Moore Hates America," made by newcomer Michael Wilson and funded partially by Brian Cartmell, who made a small fortune when he sold his Internet domain registration company, eNic, to Verisign. The feature film, made for $200,000 and featuring appearances from Penn Jillette and John Stossel, among others, is looking for a theatrical and DVD distribution deal.

For Moore's part, he said he's familiar with the title "Michael Moore Hates America" but doubts the movie even exists, beyond the trailer that can be seen on the Internet.

"You're being duped by the kooky right," he said. "I've been waiting to see this movie. It sounds like great science fiction."


In the "Crybaby Copycat Department":

The second is the bigger-budget effort "Michael & Me" that was made by talk-radio star and soon-to-be TV host Larry Elder. The 90-minute documentary takes on Moore's 2002 anti-gun documentary, "Bowling for Columbine," Elder said. "My film is a defense of those who own guns and of the Second Amendment," said Elder, whose "The Larry Elder Show" from Warner Bros. Prods. starts Sept. 13 on CBS affiliates in most major markets. Elder said that he borrows liberally from Moore, including a "Bowling"-like animated segment that has Elder interviewing an obviously tense Moore. "He's sweating and sweating to the point he's reed thin, then he pulls out a gun and shoots me."

And... In the "Get Real" Department:

"Terminal Island" is a black-and-white feature film about a woman being stalked by a Muslim terrorist who is himself being stalked by a bounty hunter.

"When you shop a script like this around," said Murty, "studio execs say, 'Is this about Muslim terrorists? We don't want to touch it.' "


This film festival sounds so bad, I'm not sure the freepers will want to touch it.

I'm all for this idea, but the choice of films sounds pretty poor.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:52 PM
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28. After RED DAWN and TRIUMPH OF THE WILL what have they got?
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:55 PM
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30.  Rambo II and III, Navy Seals, Delta Force, do I see a theme?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:56 PM
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31. Rambo
Funny thing is, in the first movie, Rambo is a Vietnam vet angry at the government and anti-war.

They freeped him up for the second and third ones.

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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:33 PM
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40. Actually the author of the original Rambo spoke to my 7th grade class
He was a really nice guy - though I was like 13. I was the only kid in the group to even know what he was talking about - (even if you have a stupid concept, it might sell well in Hollywood)

Now this was the original First Blood, it was an English class, in small well to do town, taught by a 60 year old - but at 13 the political nuance went a bit over my head.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:53 PM
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29. Larry Elder: Second rate talk show host, third rate brain
Elder always sounds like he knows what he is talking about. He is a lawyer who thinks he is an economist.

Occasionally, Larry Elder can be dealable--he will listen to peoples' personal stories and can look at another side of the issue. However, these flashes of understanding are becoming rarer as he has made a living out of spouting conservative dogma. Sad, because the guy identifies himself as libertarian and is not a crazy neocon. I just wish he had studied more economics.

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 03:08 PM
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33. Also showing: NBC, ABC and CBS nightly news
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 03:09 PM
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35. LOL
and how
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 03:13 PM
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36. A film version of "Mein Kampf" would fit in with this crowd.
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 03:14 PM by Manix
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:57 PM
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42. TRIUMPH OF THE WILL???
OOOPS WRONG BUSH WAS THINKING PRESCOTT.
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kungfugrip Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:11 AM
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45. I can't believe they have the balls to run DC9/11
After all that we know about the chaos of that day, their gonna show that ridiculous superhero movie?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:20 AM
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46. And so the choir sings!
Well, if they were serious about it they'd be doing a documentary on Bush what a wonderful leader he is or a documentary on Kerry promoting their own viewpoints. Instead, they're rabid about the messenger! LOL Typical. :eyes:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:42 AM
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51. Yawn!
How sweet can it get for Michael Moore? Fahrenheit 911 will glean another five million from this type of advertisement. I love It!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:45 AM
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52. HAHAHHAHAHAH, we might have to watch this just to laugh
i might watch this just to get a good laugh. i wonder if it will be as "good" as that ad with hitler they have on bush's website.
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 06:36 AM
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53. The Conservitive film festival: Starring Michael Moore!.ROFL!!
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 06:36 AM by SideshowScott
OMG Um would someone please tell them that they are just looking dumb by riding on Moores coattails? Never mind let them look like saps. It only helps Michael and gives him more free publicity..Id really kinda like to watch bonehead Elders film and rip it to shreads. Im sure both these guys dont have on atom of the film making talent that Moore does!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 06:43 AM
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54. Oh Wow, That should attract 10, 15, hell maybe 20 people...
Maybe the press could do a tight shot of the theater lines - you know, like Saddam's Statue Toppling - and then claim "hundreds of thousands"...
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:06 PM
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57. They can do that but they won't have the same success
I don't think young people will flock to see those like they do MM movies.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:10 PM
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58. Oooh.. a re-release of "Birth of a Nation"?
and "Tammy Tell Me True"... "April Love"..."Chainsaw Massacre"...

and so many other rightwinger favorites.??
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