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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:36 PM
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Senator Leahy had it coming
...or so I am told.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6025-2004Jun25.html

Cheney Says He 'Felt Better' After Bitter Exchange

By Helen Dewar and Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, June 25, 2004; 5:00 PM

Vice President Cheney today acknowledged that he had a bitter exchange on the Senate floor with a senior Democratic senator, in which Cheney uttered a big-time obscenity, but said he had no regrets and that he "felt better after I had done it."

Cheney made the comments in an interview with Fox News, as his language in the exchange with Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (Vt.) attracted considerable attention in talk shows and commentary on television, radio and the Internet.

Later in the interview, Cheney added, laughing, that "a lot of my colleagues felt that what I had said badly needed to be said, that it was long overdue."

On Tuesday, Cheney, serving in his role as president of the Senate, appeared in the chamber for a photo session. A chance meeting with Leahy, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, became an argument about Cheney's ties to Halliburton Co., an international energy services corporation, and President Bush's judicial nominees. The exchange ended when Cheney offered some crass advice.

"Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency.

...more...
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:38 PM
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1. A heartbeat and a 9 volt battery...
:grr:

Or something like that....shit
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:55 PM
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19. That's how much he cares about the representatives of the people and the
people themselves. The public be damned.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:39 PM
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2. He felt better? Then how 'bout this, Tricky Dick:
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 06:39 PM by Vickers

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!


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Wow, he's right, I feel like a million bucks! Thanks Tricky Fuckin' Dick!!!!!
:hi:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:39 PM
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3. His colleagues at Haliburton no doubt
We know who the man really works for.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:39 PM
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4. Clearly we all owe Cheney an apology
Seeing as he's "changed the tone" and restored "honor and dignity" to Washington DC. ;-)
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:40 PM
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5. Cheney: Hey. Bitch had it coming. You got a problem with dat?
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:40 PM
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6. Say it again during the VP debates, Evil Dick
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 06:40 PM by Paragon
C'mon...it'll make you feel better.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:40 PM
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7. They'r e Losing It
They are totally losing it...At this rate, I'm thinking we really got a shot at taking back congress too...
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:42 PM
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8. Who exactly ARE his colleagues?
He ain't no senator, never has been. Frist? Maybe I'll give him that.

dick 'fucking' cheney is NOT exactly the epitome of collegiality!
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:42 PM
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9. all for returning family values and integrity to the Whitehouse
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:42 PM
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10. It's Leahy's JOB to question...
and provide oversight of the executive branch. King George and Prince Cheney don't give a shit about democracy or COEQUAL branches of government and act as if they're above the laws of the land.

- That Cheney can tell one of our representatives to fuck off (and get away with it) when he's investigating a possible conflict of interest shows just how much our government has deteriorated into chaos.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:44 PM
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11. CBS Evening News covered it
Fairly long story...made him look like a hypocrite when they talked about the "decency" speech bill being turned out on the very same day.

Report made it clear that civility in Washington would be a long time in coming.


Cher

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:52 PM
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17. Same on Hardball tonight
Even that whore Howard Fineman pointed out the irony of Big Dick's outburst occurring the same day the Senate passed the Decency Act.

Bake
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:45 PM
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12. Just an observation...
Cheney, like all the this administration, has been "f--ing" America for almost 4 years and no one notices, reports, nor cares. But in one of those Lewinsky-like moments (obsenities that American's can get their small minds around), the media hypes this larger than the Iraq War. A nation so silly is in for a big prat-fall.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:55 PM
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18. Welcome to DU.
"No one"????

Thanks for the sweeping generalization.
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:06 PM
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27. aquart--I think you know what I mean
Sorry, that I don't have the space to list by name, rank and serial number those who do notice. I'm talking about the bulk of the intellectually dead Americans who do not notice, nor care, nor are the least bit concerned about the last 3 and a half years. You know, the ones that could put this boy back into the Oval Office very easily.
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FATNED Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:45 PM
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13. Just Heard talking head on MSNBC
(Campbell in place of Tweety on Hardball) describe an upcoming segment this way: "Vice-president Dick Cheney MAY have uttered an obscenity on the senate floor," then, blah, blah, blah, we'll have coverage after this...

Only with these media whores can the Vice-president ADMIT he did it and then brag about it, only to have MSNBC provide cover.

Hey MSNBC, go fuck yourself.
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:46 PM
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14. propaganda techniques are cranked up now
they are calling out their supporters, ready for the fight to come. the bush admin is firing up the troops, and the troops love it.

btw, wasn't leahy anthraxed?

--snip--
Name Calling or Substitutions of Names or Moral Labels. This technique attempts to arouse prejudices in an audience by labeling the object of the propaganda campaign as something the target audience fears, hates, loathes, or finds undesirable.
Types of name calling:
-Direct name calling is used when the audience is sympathetic or neutral. It is a simple, straightforward attack on an opponent or opposing idea.
-Indirect name calling is used when direct name calling would antagonize the audience. It is a label for the degree of attack between direct name calling and insinuation. Sarcasm and ridicule are employed with this technique.
-Cartoons, illustrations, and photographs are used in name calling, often with deadly effect.

Dangers inherent in name calling: In its extreme form, name calling may indicate that the propagandist has lost his sense of proportion or is unable to conduct a positive campaign. Before using this technique, the propagandist must weigh the benefits against the possible harmful results. It is best to avoid use of this device. The obstacles are formidable, based primarily on the human tendency to close ranks against a stranger. For example, a group may despise, dislike, or even hate one of its leaders, even openly criticize him, but may (and probably will) resent any non group member who criticizes and makes disparaging remarks against that leader.



Pinpointing the Enemy: This is a form of simplification in which a complex situation is reduced to the point where the "enemy" is unequivocally identified. For example, the president of country X is forced to declare a state of emergency in order to protect the peaceful people of his country from the brutal, unprovoked aggression by the leaders of country.



Plain Folks or Common Man: The "plain folks" or "common man" approach attempts to convince the audience that the propagandist's positions reflect the common sense of the people. It is designed to win the confidence of the audience by communicating in the common manner and style of the audience. Propagandists use ordinary language and mannerisms (and clothes in face-to-face and audiovisual communications) in attempting to identify their point of view with that of the average person. With the plain folks device, the propagandist can win the confidence of persons who resent or distrust foreign sounding, intellectual speech, words, or mannerisms.
The audience can be persuaded to identify its interests with those of the propagandist:
Presenting soldiers as plain folks. The propagandist wants to make the enemy feel he is fighting against soldiers who are "decent, everyday folks" much like himself; this helps to counter themes that paint the opponent as a "bloodthirsty" killer.

Presenting civilians as plain folks. The "plain folks" or "common man" device also can help to convince the enemy that the opposing nation is not composed of arrogant, immoral, deceitful, aggressive, warmongering people, but of people like himself, wishing to live at peace.

Humanizing leaders. This technique paints a more human portrait of US and friendly military and civilian leaders. It humanizes them so that the audience looks upon them as similar human beings or, preferably, as kind, wise, fatherly figures.
--snip--

ref:
"Propaganda Techniques" is based upon "Appendix I: PSYOP Techniques" from "Psychological Operations Field Manual No.33-1" published by Headquarters; Department of the Army, in Washington DC, on 31 August 1979

just like bush pauses, and can't say "abu graib", like his father couldn't say "saddam hussein". these people are not amateurs, and they are playing for keeps.
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:56 PM
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21. Daschle & Leahy
were anthraxed about the same time as I recall.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:46 PM
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15. One wonders if Cheney, during the middle of a sleepless night,...
ever gives a passing thought to the FACT that he will go down as the most corrupt Vice President...ever.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:52 PM
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16. so... how about Vicepresident Leahy?
;)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:57 PM
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22. Do not touch the Senators.
We need every fucking one of them.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:59 PM
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23. well, those from states with Demcratic governments can be touched...
but yes, I had forgotten Vermont's governor was a repug...
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:56 PM
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20. just caught a bit on CNN about this...
and not one time it was discussed as to 'why' Cheney lost it. Erm, I guess that would be too Much Like News.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:03 PM
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24. Cheney's Comments On Fox Are Beyond The Pale
heard it on Rhandi Rhodes Show.

He essentially smacked Leahy, Democrats and the American People in the face.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:04 PM
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25. How DARE Leahy question the Vice-Emperor's integrity?
Cheney must be used to dealing with more obsequious democrat senators like Miller or Lieberman who know their place.

I'll bet Leahy didn't even kiss his ring or ask for his blessing.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:04 PM
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26. fuck yourself? these repugs can't even curse n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:08 PM
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28. We all know how 'courteous' the Senators are too each other with all
their prefaced phrases and terms of endearment even when they are digging a rules of engagement trap or are being caught in one. So, here we have Cheney, Mr Honor and Integrity telling Leahy, who is always a gentlemen on camera, to FY.

So that makes everything just fine according to the cabal because he did it with his suit on and his tie tied.

Suited, tied, and white shirted liars and big-time cussers.

Mr and Mrs America, this is Republican decorum - do it and brag on CPN - Corporate Propaganda Networks and have your Corporate propagandists chuckle and approve. But don't have sex with an intern. That's a no-no.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:31 PM
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29. I bet Joe-mentum was horrified!
He likes civility in politics....remember how polite he was to Dick in their debates?
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:32 PM
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30. Yeah, well, we Dems all have it coming
and going.

those dipshit repugs are just spinning circles in the bowl.
dp
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