http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0308/16/smn.16.html<snip>MAY: Let me differ a little bit. First of all, what we agree on, P.J. and I, is that this move -- this effort to bring the American troops home now would be a dreadful mistake, in fact, it would be a historic mistake. The job that we came to do is not yet done.
We've got a provisional governing council up and running, that's good. A constitution is being written. That's going to take about a year. And then we want to eventually have elections and a fully constituted Iraqi government.
At that point, we can begin to lessen our presence there. But for a lot of reasons, we do have to be there.
Now, P.J.'s also to say we didn't have a fully blown plan for how to democratize this country, how to nation-build. But you know what? Nobody else in the world does. The Europeans have been trying to do it for years in their former colonies in Africa, and they haven't succeeded.
But the consequences of our succeeding in Iraq, creating the first real democracy in the Arab world, that is enormous. And the consequences of our failure would be enormous too, which is why we got to stay the course.
WHITFIELD: Well, Cliff, let me jump in with that, in that the White House said it did indeed have a plan post-Saddam, even though Congress demanded to see that plan, and that was not delivered. How do you suppose this is being interpreted by the international community, who is hearing from the Iraqi people that, clearly, things are not moving along smoothly at all?
MAY: Well, I don't know, know -- look, I don't think anybody expected it to be smooth. Why would you? We're trying to do something that's never been done before, we're trying not only to get rid of the oppression that has lasted for more than 30 years in Iraq, but also we're trying to build democratic institutions.
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