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Sat Jun-26-04 07:35 PM
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"It's staged! It's all staged!" Woman Freeper exposed to millions! |
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The horrid Freeper woman who jumped into the shot with Lila Lipscomb and the woman protesting in front of the Whitehouse. I'm so glad to see her exposed to everyone she knows. She was so horrible to Mrs. Lipscomb, and even after she understood that she was talking to a woman who really *had* lost her son in this war for oil, she had the nerve to shout after this absolutely grief stricken woman, "Well, alot of other people died, too!"
Her cold heart is exposed for all to see. How dare she attack Lila Lipscomb? I'm glad she's getting what she deserves for her unkindness.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:37 PM
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1. what's this? i missed it. |
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:50 PM
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25. She was caught on tape for F 911 by Moore and co. |
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Evidently the poster just saw the movie and is glad that the insensitive Freeper was caught on film for all the world to see just how utterly insensitive the right wing really is.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:37 PM
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2. And she said, "Blame Al-Qaeda!" |
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In her little mind, blaming the President just isn't happening, so no one else should be allowed to say it. Poor Lila and all the other families who lost and are grieving. :cry:
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:37 PM
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3. I agree. Hope she feels foolish. |
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:41 PM
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12. She would have to have a conscience and a sense of decency for that |
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Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 07:42 PM by tnlefty
and I wasn't detecting either of those. I don't know how Mrs. Lipscomb kept herself together.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:57 PM
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people who do that want to be obscure, they dont want others to be able to point at their ugliness, they like it hidden. i havent seent the movie, but sure would like to see this woman pop up on the news circuit and say how misreprestative that was of who she is as a person. interesting. and i agree with the original post
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:38 PM
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4. I'll bet she will like all those |
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DITTOES!! Wonder if Rush has seen this movie so he could attempt to give an objective view of it.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:38 PM
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5. Damnit, that's not the point of the movie! |
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The point was to show people that they were wrong. Don't forget, Lipscomb said it wasn't the woman's fault... she didn't know!!!! That's why he made the movie, to show people.... not burn em in at the stake.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:45 PM
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18. Mrs. Lipscomb is a better woman than me. |
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I get your point, but that doesn't stop me from calling a freeper a freeper, and a cold-hearted witch a cold-hearted witch.
I think MM also gets a lot of mileage from exposing assholes in their natural environment. And that woman was an asshole. Now the world knows it.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:49 PM
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22. Exactly--the poor woman who lost her son admitted as |
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much when she said that ignorance was the culprit and that she didn't know previously as well. That was the real depth of her grief.
She didn't know.
Freepers don't know.
Many people don't know.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:54 PM
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35. There was a guy in my theatre wearing a Bush/Cheney04 t-shirt... |
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I watched him come in with some of his buddies. They sat down, watched the whole movie without making a sound. I looked over at the end and he was standing and clapping at the end.
Afterwards I had a brief conversation with the guy and he said he was glad he saw it.
That is the point of the movie. Show them.
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:09 PM
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46. Yes. Show them. But do you think that Cruella would ever come to F911? |
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Sun Jun-27-04 12:18 AM
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54. Mrs. Lipscomb is a better woman than I....................... |
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I would have throttled the ---king Bitch, jail or no.
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Sun Jun-27-04 12:22 AM
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55. She didn't know that the thing was "staged" either when she said that. |
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Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 12:47 AM by LoZoccolo
And yet she had the nerve to say it was - fuck her. It's just common decency that you don't accuse people of stuff like that. I'm sick of her and her ilk, these people that play fast and loose with the truth to make themselves more comfortable. Those are the kind of people that walk around and say that all poor people are poor because they're lazy.
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Sun Jun-27-04 01:33 AM
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61. Not to make excuses for the woman, but |
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when you see two people having a conversation and someone is filming them, it's not terribly illogical to think they might be "acting."
One assumes Moore has signed releases for those who appeared in his film.
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Sun Jun-27-04 11:40 PM
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63. Yeah that wench didn't have much to say after Lila told her exactly where |
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her son was killed. Except "Blame Al Qaeda!" Wotta maroon.
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This woman lost her son and was in terrible pain. No one should be lecturing her about who to "blame" for it, and telling her a lot of other people died. I think the woman is a disgusting heartless creep.
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Mon Jun-28-04 03:33 PM
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72. she "just didn't know" |
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that pretty much sums up the right wing.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:38 PM
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6. Best Villain in a film since Cruella de Ville! BITCH! |
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:39 PM
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7. Thats one moment in the movie that my heart just ached for her! |
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Oh it was horrible! That horrible horrible mean , cold hearted woman! what a bitch! I hope everyone who knows her sees this movie!
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:52 PM
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27. Welcome to DU. Thanks for such a heartfelt post! |
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34. Hi southernleftylady!!! |
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:39 PM
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8. GOPisEvil brought this woman up earlier.... |
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and this was my response:
That scene made me realize that Lila is a much stronger woman than I am. I would have beat the shit out that woman. Filled with grief, loss, confusion, and anger and then having some strange bitch telling ME that I'm faking it and it's all "staged"??? I would probably snap and go nuts.
I hope that woman sees the movie and hears Lila's story and I hope she goes to bed that night with the words of Lila's son in that letter ringing in her ears.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:41 PM
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I would have attempted to stomp the hell out of her.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:42 PM
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I commend Lila Lipscomb for her restraint. Lila gets it. This woman just THINKS she knows, when in reality, she doesn't know shit from shinola.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:57 PM
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Sorry, I am not as attentive as I used to be.
Say, Why was the White House Fence covered with a green tarp? It sounded like some construction going on. Or was it a new security measure? I once was at Lafayette Square and that has always been the best location for protests.
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:22 PM
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50. I was wondering about that green tarp thing too |
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By the way, when I said GOPisEvil brought it up, it was in a thread in the lounge started by a person who hasn't seen the movie yet. It wasn't an actual thread about Lila so don't worry, you've been attentive enough!
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:39 PM
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She was undoubtedly a cold hearted nut. But I thought she was talking about the lady in the tent with the signs (which I couldn't read) not Lila. Just who is she? The world should know.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:43 PM
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16. That's what I thought, too. |
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I couldn't read the signs or understand what the plastic tent lady was saying.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:50 PM
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23. My interpretation of the situation.... |
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The lady in the tent was an Iraqi woman and the signs and photos she had were about the innocent Iraqis killed in this war.
The way I saw the situation, the freeper woman approached a group gathering and watching a mourning Iraqi woman and a mourning American woman discussing their losses in this war and a camera recording the conversation. To her, she thought the conversation between Lila and the Iraqi woman was staged for the camera so she said so. She obviously thought Lila was putting on an act because she questioned where her son died in a very bitchy way. Once Lila told her the place and date, only then did the freeper back off a little.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:51 PM
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26. She backed off after saying "Well, he's not the only one" |
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Some smartass "zinger" before the bitch backed off.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:53 PM
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you're right. What a heartless bitch. It's like I said before...I would have gone ballistic on her. Lila has much more restraint than I do.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:58 PM
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39. Yep, that's the point when I would've lost it. She knew the situation and |
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knew that she was attacking a greiving mother and just couldn't say I'm sorry and shut the hell up.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:53 PM
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33. She didn't back of until she minimized Lila's loss. Shameful. nt |
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Mon Jun-28-04 03:37 PM
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if she truly thought it had been staged, when she realized Lila was telling the truth she should have been mortified and apologized. Buth her compassionate conservatism raised its ugly head.
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:01 PM
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42. That must have been the case, GS. |
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Thanks for the explanation. I love DU; so many smart people!!
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:15 PM
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48. well you just made my day! |
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I love being called smart! :) Thanks
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:50 PM
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24. She was quizzing Lila where her son died and what date... |
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She thought she was lying. The tent woman was saying Bush kills children and Lila was saying her son, too had died. That's when Cruella de Ville swooped in to say it was all staged and demanding to know when Lila's boy died, she implied she was lying about it.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:52 PM
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28. Wish I could! But she reminded me, I SWEAR of this Freeper woman at |
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the SF protests. She was on the sidelines, dressed in her bright red golf togs, mocking the protesters.
I'm sure it's not the same one, but the same brazen hatred of anyone who might question the boy king.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:40 PM
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10. Hmm, maybe it was a Freudian slip? |
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Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 08:27 PM by SimpleTrend
It's all (real life) staged.
I do agree it was a very unkind comment to make to a grieving person, and the follow up was just ego gratification, i.e., more unkindness.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:40 PM
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11. It's all about greed with the freepshits... |
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they see their tax cut pres(sic) getting exposed and they go Bonzai!
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:42 PM
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14. Let's keep this thread KICKED for TRUTH! |
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Most people do not realize how awful and Brownshirty and ever-growing (but still small) segment of the population have become.
Of course, that only mirrors the Chimperial Family and especially their Stooges' behavior.
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19. But has anyone identified her? |
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I'd really like to know. I bet she works for some agency either in the government or with significant government connections.
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gee, I wonder what the odds are that a person in downtown Washington DC would be a US government employee :eyes:
even if she is, i bet she's just an average RW asshole who recognized Moore.
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37. I wouldn't be surprised. nt |
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:45 PM
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17. I've heard this done on stupid radio. If a caller states that they had |
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a relative injured or died in Iraq invariably a hatemonger will call in afterwords and demand to know where they were killed, implying they are a liar. These people are vile and totally deranged.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:48 PM
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20. Yes, I remember her clearly. |
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She was awful. But yet, a product of her environment: 2nd-rate education, house in the suburbs, businessman husband, SUV which they use for a tax deduction, heart full of envy and greed... Now I feel sorry for her.
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32. What an apt thumbnail sketch. |
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:00 PM
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41. I'm with you all the way you get to the feeling sorry for her part. |
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I guess I've just reached my limit. I have no sympathy any more for these selfish people.
I don't wish the same fate on her, or anyone in her family, but her coldness to Lila Lipscomb deserves to be condemned.
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64. I havn't seen the movie yet |
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but I can not feel sorry for women/men of this ilk. I can't speak for US freep's I s'pose but we have plenty of similar types here in Australia (the ones that wanted the govt to send the navy to shoot down the "terrorist" refugee boats of escaping Iraqi asylum seekers because "they're illegal immigrants not refugees'" and then months later claimed to be speaking for all the "poor" iraqis when they stomped alongside Howard and Bush into war against Iraq. I have no more education then most of them - I went to a government school not a private one, I have no reason to be more informed than them except that I seek out information - there's nothing stopping them from doing the same.
My other half grew up in a seriously non political family who when they think about current affairs at all tend to come down on the side that Rupert's papers tell them to - yet my other half manages to seek out his own information and make his own decisions.
There's no excuse for being ignorant and there's DEFINETLY no excuse for insensitivity - regardless of what I beleived I wouldn't berate someone about their dead kid - it's like picketing AIDS funeral - inexcusable regardless of your politics.
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:52 PM
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30. The theater I was at when freeptard |
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got on the camera, I heard a lot of gasps and a few "What a bitch!"
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Sat Jun-26-04 07:59 PM
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40. Those moments will be burned in my mind for as long as I live |
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I saw it this afternoon.
Those scenes of that poor mother wandering around outside the white house, consumed with grief. That point where she almost just collapses from the sheer grief of it all.
That level of grief, that almost Biblical level of grief, where as she says "your flesh aches" to see it on the screen like that was more powerful emotionally than any staged movie scene I've ever seen...
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:03 PM
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43. I do not understand folks |
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without the capacity of compassion. I have not seen the film yet , hopefully Monday. This will be a tough part. I lost my son ( not to war) and no one can begin to understand the emotions. My heart breaks for her just from reading posts. I hope we can regain the societal level of compassion that would never allow a person to feel free to express the lack of it such as this person has.
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45. I'm very sorry to hear about your son. My heart breaks for Lila Lipscomb, |
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and every parent who loses a child, under any circumstances, deserves nothing but compassion.
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:14 PM
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47. I am so sorry for your loss. :^( |
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:17 PM
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I could not believe that woman's lack of compassion in F911-Lila was a better woman than me. i would have beaten her to a pulp...
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Sat Jun-26-04 08:05 PM
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44. I've never hit a woman |
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Nor have I ever come close. My parents brought me up right. But that hag would have seriously tested my limits. She DESERVES a good smacking.
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51. That was, perhaps, one of the most disturbing scenes of the whole movie |
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and it epitomizes the ugliness of the freeper mentality and willingness to do such sub-human things that have become almost acceptable.
For about 15 years, people like Annthrax Coulter, OxyRush and their ilk have been allowed to pose as legitimate media figures. Partly as a result, it's become more acceptable in our traditional media outlets to feature people who are proudly "politically incorrect", describing people like Lila and protestors as "bed-wetting whiners", to put down "do-gooders", etc. In other words, for some of our society, it's become chic to act like that freeper did. Coldhearted behavior has been acceptable for way too long.
That woman was more in-your-face cold-hearted, and she did that in a more personal, confrontational approach.
The more subtly cold-hearted ones get away with their attitudes more easily, since their smack-downs are hidden within their policies and their use of power over massive numbers of people.
The epitome of an "in-your-face" attacker was that freeper woman who attacked Lila Lipscomb. And who, IMHO, was the perfect example of the quietly subtle, stealth, and more deadly attacker on the American people at large? Dick Cheney.
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52. This seems like a microcosm of what we're up against,to me |
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It's a total lack of empathy,of the ability to think for a second what it might be like to have the bombs dropped on YOUR head,instead of just some random,faceless people on your tv...these are REAL people,no different from you or I,and they (the Right-wing) just dont seem to understand that most basic fact.
I'm 36 years old and I just can't wrap my head around this way of thinking....and I hope I never find that ability :-(
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ugly BiITch. I'm glad she's exposed to the world now too. She was fantastic as a representative of willfully blind, ignorant black hearted freepers and republicans everywhere.
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56. she's the word I dare not use on DU |
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Come at me! :evilgrin:
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67. my humble curse for her |
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May her shit come to life, and kiss her. :-)
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57. Hell my both my Nazi sisters would have said the same thing. |
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It`s that good old fascist brainwashing they got from those sick ass wannabe slave holders they married. Peace Wildman Al Gore is My President
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59. I will never understand |
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how someone can be so cold-hearted. I don't care what your politics are, losing a child is the worst thing that can ever happen to a parent. Period. What that woman did was no different than stabbing Lila in the heart, then after realizing, whoops, I guess her son really did die, driving the knife in a little farther. It's almost instinctual to feel sympathy for someone who has lost a loved one. That woman has a heart made of ice.
I'll give it another day before she's outed. I can hardly wait.
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Sun Jun-27-04 01:08 AM
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60. But I'm starting to understand Lila a little bit better. |
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She was really amazing during that exchange. She didn't take any crap from the woman, but she also didn't return the cruelty. She handled it so humanly, with real compassion toward the harpy that was bearing down on her.
And then she said that the woman just didn't understand, that she was ignorant, that this is what we're up against. So, Lila understands how someone can be so cold hearted, and she doesn't hate her for it, she shows her empathy. God, Lila Lipscomb is just an amazing, amazing human being, and I'm so, so deeply sorry for her loss.
Remember how she talked about wanting to be in a field where she was working with all kinds of people and helping people? I admire Lila Lipscomb, and I believe that she will become a new role model for compassionate, caring women who will will fight the Bush administration with grace and strengh. She looked at the White House, and said, "Now I have a place to put all of my grief and pain." (I paraphrase).
I believe we have much to learn from her.
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In a great thread. The woman in the tent was callng B*sh the biggest terrorist and I don't think she was too far off. The more you dissect this movie, the more it reveals. I wrote my review and a freeper instead of saying anything about my writing has to throw Christopher Hitchens awful review in my face. That is the mentality to avoid learning anything about the emperors' missing clothes.
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Mon Jun-28-04 02:58 PM
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69. Her response can be described as.... |
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Christ-like. She is exactly what all the freeper fundie nutjobs out there will never be, and the irony is completely lost on them.
That woman's compassion and mercy--in the face of her immense loss--are humbling to watch on the screen.
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Mon Jun-28-04 03:44 PM
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76. Good point. Lila, even through her pain, understood the ignorance. |
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Without saying so, she might have thought along the lines of "I was once like her."
Remember when she was in her kitchen and said she was angry at the Vietnam protesters, but now she understand?
May that awful freeper woman in the park one day have even a tenth of the compassion of Lila Lipscomb.
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Sun Jun-27-04 01:27 PM
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62. I hope someone finds out who she is |
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she deserves to be exposed as the heartless asshole she is!
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Mon Jun-28-04 12:04 AM
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65. She was the perfect indictment of the |
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BUSH ADMINISTRATION - how scary - how sad . . .
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Mon Jun-28-04 12:38 AM
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68. Yes, she is the kind of woman who is married to the kind of man who |
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Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 12:39 AM by higher class
calls into Washington Journal every morning and brags about his monetary successes and comdemns the leeches in this country and the enemy eye-rack-ease and praises his own grand loyalty to our wonderful leader who he supports in the kills.
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Mon Jun-28-04 03:36 PM
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73. wonder if that old woman is still doing her protest? |
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and no mention of Bush's "staging" of his entire presidency
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Tue Jun-29-04 07:30 AM
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77. My daughter and I discussed her after we saw the movie |
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And both of us could imagine her proudly signing the release to allow MM use the scene in his movie, thinking she would come off as the great RW exposer of "truth". We both wonder if she will become a RW martyr for the GOP cause, ala Paula Jones, since they seem to prefer their spokespeople ignorant and short sighted. We shall see, anything is possible. MKJ
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Tue Jun-29-04 11:31 AM
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good thread. what an amazing moment that is now shared with the world.
the patriot and the freeper.
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:02 PM
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79. A left-wing talking point is made! |
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Every time you hear how F/9-11 is biased and doesn't give the administration a say....now we can say it does! Just cite a Bush supporter got to have a nice debate with the mother of a solider who died in Karbala. Their side truly got to have their say, and were represented for whom they really are.
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