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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:27 PM
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My F911 expreience and the house of Saud...
I just got back from F911. Yes, I knew most of bits and pieces from DU post. Yet, movie was way more powerful than just the sum of this information.

There are many good, or infuriating and./or scary moments in the movie. Like everyone else I laughed, cursed in my mouse and shed tears. ( In fact, now I am very ambivalent en if rating R is appropriated or not. Some of images of Iraq war were a bit too much.) I went to 6:30 show and we had a same amount of crowed we had at ‘The day after tomorrow ‘ on opening nights, about 80% full. It is not a very busy theater.

Anyway, instead of repeating similar stuff, I do want to add my point of view since I have not see a post who mentioned what I thought about the movie. In the different thread I voted for the house of Saud as the worst after I saw the movie. I am originally from Japan, married to an American guy. During 80's there was lots of Japan bashing going on. Some were understandable and some were very opportunistic. (This is why I still dislike Gerhard....) It is almost ironic to me that no American is screaming Saud invasion of Unlisted State. Unlike 80 ‘Japanese invasion’, this huge amount of money is controlled by very small number of people.

The sheer size of monetary interest (by the house of Saudi) really scared me. It's not even billion. It's over trillion. Even for Unlisted States, it is not very easy to afford to get rid of Saud influence.

We talked a lot about Sadam's torture chamber and stuff. But we never talk about the medieval nature of Saudi's criminal justice system. It does not matter if a government does it in a modern way or medieval way. Saudi's criminal justice system is in essence as brutal as Sadam. On the top of that, for woman, it is worse to be born in Saudi Arabia than Iraq. Oh, I almost forgot that they don’t have huge middle class, do they?

Saudi Arabia is a very good role model for the society that the misadministration wants to create. Not only anti-bush, I think we have to be anti-Saudi Arabia or more precisely, the house of Saudi. I also wonder if this can be a good argument against Freepers without even mentioning Bush co…Oh, well, most of freepers are brain dead…Just a thought.

Hertopos
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:37 PM
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1. I agree
I feel the same way about Saudi Arabia the way many people feel about America...the people of that country deserve much better than their government. The few people I've met who are Saudi are wonderful people and it breaks my heart to think of the crimes against humanity their government commits.

I detest the crony ties between our govt and theirs and all the hypocrisy those ties create. I'm also disgusted by the oil addiction. Bush barks about the need for democracy in the Middle East and how our enemies "hate freedom" and then he goes and kisses Saudi ass. The whole thing pisses me off.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:45 PM
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3. The only people who "hate our freedoms" is the
Bush administration. It's all about the "haves and the have mores" shitting on the rest of us - no matter what our nationality. These people want a global economy? What they're going to get is a global revolution.

Fuck the Bushes. Fuck the Sauds and fuck the bin Ladens.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:50 PM
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6. yep. You can't claim they hate our freedom and then pass the Patriot Act
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:43 PM
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2. Mr. Kerry
when you are elected president, and if you go after the saudi's, I will enlist (and thats saying alot)
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:50 PM
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5. good grief! wow
:wow:

that's saying a lot
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:58 PM
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7. the saudi's are the real perpetrators of 9/11
and they produce tons of terrorists
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:49 PM
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4. bush* and the 'house of saud" PHOTO

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak
and Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Abdullah
being chauffeured by the shrub....

photo taken at the exotic expensive Egyptian resort
Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt

June 03, 2003....shortly after the aircraft stunt on May 01, 2003
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