Are we prepared for Bushco Terror Attack number Two?

[mopaul]

we should definitely not relax or become complacent regarding the next bushco phony arab attack on our own soil. all the top officials, including the president himself, dick cheney, have guaranteed that it's coming, and it will be much worse than 9-11.

whether it happens before or after the november election, it's coming, of this there is no doubt. we don't know where or exactly when, but they've assured us it is coming. president cheney even has a bunker made for it, so we know it's coming.

it could be in kansas city, it could be in detroit. it's any body's guess. but the effect on the general public will be chaotic and unpredictable. some will feel as if we need to drop some nukes on arab nations. some will feel that bush should be imprisoned for high treason, or worse. but it is coming.

it will be blamed on al qaeda, we already know that. and it will be the most grave and momentous time in our nation's history. nazis have infiltrated our white house right in front of our eyes. terrorists, imperialists, men without human souls, men with agendas beyond our imagination.

the attack is right around the corner, yet, you could hardly notice it. ashcroft, cheney, rumsfeld, all the top warpigs should know. we are gonna get hit hard. is there any way to prepare? is there anyway to stop it? is there any thing to look forward to afterwards? or is this how the whole fucking century is gonna go?

i am afraid.

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Probably not ready for the attack itself, but we won't be surprised,

shocked, and awed like last time.

As we aren't in a position to stop the inevitable, I suggest that we keep rational minds during and after the disaster and keep the heat on *. I doubt he's capable of performing better than 9-11 with his megaphone to hardhats ("I can hear YOU! The whole country hears you! And soon, the REST of the world will hear from US!"), etc.

Plus, some of the cast of characters from 9-11 are different: Guiliani is not the mayor of NYC, Arnold is a figurehead in California . . . This second bite at the (Big) Apple could backfire on * as it could really get out of control, i.e., many more people dead, the price of property destruction, the price of rebuilding, people too shocked to go to the polls in November.

I'm cynical enough to believe that * can't cover his tracks from 9-11 and this potential new disaster. He will be discovered, but this time, he will have to protect himself from a lynch mob when it's demonstrated that he planned the attack itself.

[7th_Sephiroth]

2. probably a small nuke

in new york or new orleans

[drthais]

32. NEW ORLEANS!

Don't say THAT~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[7th_Sephiroth]

33. new orleans is an easy target

and from what i have heard john ashkroft doesent like that city, too much free will (and drunken college girls at mardi gras)

[Prodemsouth]

3. If you are saying that they may favor a terrorist attack before the

election. That would be crazy, but with these people you never know.
I think it would be at least 60-40, probably more, in favor of impeaching and jailing the President. If this is a political move by the monkey gang it would be very unwise. Putting the tin foil hat on, I think Spain was a test case- and the results there showed them this is not a good idea (at least not in a place where all the votes are counted).

[Sirveri]

4. Study wind patterns.

Study the wind patterns for your area, that is where the fall out will go. Do not be there. I live in the Bay Area. Assuming a nuclear detonation in San Francisco proper, all the radioactive dust will get sucked into the bay, pass up the carquinez straights, and go into the Delta. Might go all the way to Sac. It will then hit the water table and be carried back into the Bay.

Considering how much the admin HATES this state, if he were behind something, I suspect it would happen here. No matter that we used to have the largest economy in the country. The largest population. We used to be the Crown Jewel before Reagan started to tear us down. Now... Well there you go.

[bitchkitty]

Or here, in "Little Beirut" n/t

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[ayeshahaqqiqa]

5. Hatemongers already out there

spreading the word to kill Muslims. I've seen this reported on different boards. Of course, the next line is kill all Democrats, because they are in league with terrorists. We don't need to be afraid-we need to be vigalant and ready to defend our country from a right wing facist takeover.

[Blue Gardener]

6. Attack = Martial Law = No Election

Would not put it past them to postpone the election. It will be harder for them to rig it this time around since we're onto their dirty little tricks now.

[RC]

Martial Law? Who's going to enforce it?

Not our military. They are spread too thin over the rest of the world now.

Local police? Can you imagine the resultant civil war if they get trigger happy? And they will. Law enforcement attracts that kind of personality.

[Junkdrawer]

18. There's not going to be martial law...

Basically, there's two reasons:

1.) "They" live here and want to live in a country with happy, contented servants.

2.) "They" need motivated, educated soldiers to man all the high-tech weaponry needed to maintain "their" world dominion.

Why do you think "they" go through all the trouble to use sham voting machines to setup a sham democracy? If "they" wanted a dictatorship, we would be living in one long before now. "They" are VERY experienced with the pros and cons of dictatorships.

[laruemtt]

7. i'm wondering if there is any

omen attached to the fact that both * and cheney will be in WV on the 4th of july - cheney in wheeling and * in charleston. not sure why i thought that might mean something. god knows we don't want one of them here, but why be cursed with both at once?

[Racenut20]

9. Isn't the underground bunker Ike built in W. Va.?????

The nuke proof hideout for Government Officials.

[laruemtt]

10. it is. near / in / under the Greenbrier i believe.

just a feeling, among many...........

[Eurobabe]

12. yep

greenbrier, how convenient!

[bowens43]

8. I don't know that another attack would work in his favor.

It seems to me that anther attack would be a clear indication that this administration is NOT capable of protecting the 'homeland'. Many people would look at another attack as a failure on the part of the administration.

[Deja Q]

19. In a rational world, 9/11 would have gotten * impeached...

They've hidden documents and nobody did a thing when the LIHOP revelation came out a few months ago.

In a rational world, it would be proof that * and his gaggle of twits couldn't protect a in of sugar from a raiding ant colony. However, he got away with 9/11. A lot of the American public are geniuses for wanting to be led, so I think he* will find a way to pull something new that will give him the support he wants.

[neebob]

22. I agree

It would call attention to everything the gigantic department they created hasn't done. A lot more people would start asking the hard questions. Unlike on September 11, 2001, people are paying attention. It would be much harder to play stupid.

Which is not to say I think they wouldn't try it. We are, after all, talking about shameless psychopaths who keep spewing the same lies in the face of proof to the contrary.

[bowens43]

28. I keep forgetting about the 'psychopath' part.....

They just may try it in a last ditch effort to boost the idiot's numbers.

[5X]

11. I agree, Mopaul

to look and listen to rummy and go-f-yourself cheney is to know
they would do anything to hold onto power.

[TomNickell]

13. Earthquakes and Beheadings....

Yeah, they are planning a major earthquake in SF and behead 13 small children in St. Louis.


Holy Jesus, Mohammed, Lucifer and Buhda!

Will you stop this Horseshit!

[Forkboy]

34. Would you just hide his threads already

they obviously upset you terribly.

[TomNickell]

14. Earthquakes and Beheadings....

Yeah, they are planning a major earthquake in SF and behead 13 small children in St. Louis.


Holy Jesus, Mohammed, Lucifer and Buhda!

Will you stop this Horseshit!

[madrchsod]

15. i don`t think they would order an attack

the whitehouse can`t blame clinton or the house and senate democrats. when you run the whole thing there`s no one to blame but yourself..after all he`s the one who said he was going to protect us from the evil doers.....

[Mika]

16. Surely you mean Bushco Terror Attack number 20,000++

It would be hard to list all of the attacks and atrocities committed by this criminally rouge regime, both afar and here at home. Bush/Cheney Crime Inc have had the world terrorized pre 9-11 and on.

[Deja Q]

17. There's no pithy way to say this, but the dictator is showing his colors:

If 9/11 was MIHOP, then something else will happen.

If 9/11 was LIHOP, and a bombshell a few months ago basically confirmed * ignored all sorts of warnings, then another attack might happen. * is either incompetent or maliciously evil... In a rational society, * and is budz would have been impeached and jailed the instant the media bombshell came out, * clearly not taking action on critical information vital to the safety of this country.

If 9/11 was a true "they found a weak point and exploited it" issue, then it will happen again.

They will find some way to make it happen again. Given *'s antics over the last 3 years, it's safe to say he* has created a lot more terrorists who will gladly die in order to see America crumble into dust.

I am not afraid. None of us should be, we've had some time to prepare.

All things are finite.

I have seen our society degenerate over the last 24 years. The methods use by the religious reich and the corporate in order to bestow control over the people are clearly, albeit via a slow trickle, a historical replay of what other fascist dictators have done. Bush* spoke volumes the day he said "There ought to be limits to freedom" (1999) and "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." (7/2001). Indeed, he's been spouting his dictatorial wet dreams since 1998.

I'm mentally prepared for death. If that's what you're asking... I've known my death would be the result of a hate crime. We all should be prepared for the end. We can't prepare ourselves for anything else, except possibly living in a fascist state once all is said and done, assuming we survive.

[PATRICK]

20. LIHOP in broad daylight

What alarms me is how the WH has (mis)directed defensive measures, created low expectations, NOT dealt with the Intel problems, NOT significantly addressed the tough nuts of ports and A-plants and still only peeps here and there about this ugly broad picture of a war machine on the loose abroad, and lethargic measures here.

The cons wanted to come out and tell THEIR argument that we have to proactively go out and deal with strongholds. Too bad the insignificant but tempting prize of Iraq has bogged down that noble plan. Too bad some of our "allies" are still hosting and breeding terrorist threats along with real WMD's stashed here and there. Too bad Bushco is going it alone on every front and not allowing the US to succeed too much either.

There are some calling them on the carpet for this, but it is not sinking in enough to weigh against the awful catastrophe that may ensue.
The only thing working is that individual agents and citizens are determined not to let it happen, no matter how the moribund bureaucracy is mismanaged. What is being allowed besides this deliberate vulnerability is the keeping it off the front page, away from the soothing stuff, the chief issue discussions, the campaign. Far from preparing the people, most of whom are fatalistically convinced it will happen, a quietist dread is being nurtured in a way to avoid holding officials to account.

We knew nothing before 911, relieved we had dodged the millennial threat bullet. This time it is unfolding before our eyes almost exactly as before while we here watch in horrified fascination as the sheep head to the cliffs.

The agents on the ground are probably working mightily(when not snapping at the criminal bonds of their WH bosses). What can we do? Do we need more LTTE a la Cassandra? Oh, they'll likely agree about an attack, maybe vaguely tie it in to the elections, but never see the full range of studied neglect or incompetence(or simple lack of enthusiasm) on the part of the WH.

And your scenarios are perhaps missing the scope. They can settle for the easy sock of suicide bomber striking anywhere they choose. Thanks to Bush, they have been driven all the way to that line and beyond. Or maybe they still want the big thrill of rocking the power in bigger or smarter ways. Nukes will not just kill thousands, but condemn many more to short, cancer ridden lives. So Gonzo or mastermind? I don't think we here are prepared for the actual event(s). Maybe someone will try for a plane, but failure is one thing they'd rather avoid unless they have a small army to expend.

I think suicide bombers, which sadly, I think will take a long time for people to guard against or stop panicking and beating up on Arab looking innocents. That will be the backdrop if some team is meanwhile going for the big one.

I don't think the Bush people are as ready as one might think. They will go on bluffing through the shock anyway. They have a bad habit of shuffling aside extremely dangerous situations not on their one track agenda or not on schedule, letting them fester in the rear like NK or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. Notice how they still keep to schedule and carp solely against Iran and Syria.

This is same old same old. 911 conveniently led to Iraq, reluctantly to Afghanistan first. Their next step(whatever the bluster after another attack) will be to cut another swath through the oil fields. The people and media still don't see this or the PNAC blueprint even though the really big picture is far larger and horrendous.

As for the election, the media is still primed and ready to win one for *,obvious criminality and vote fraud has not brought their machine to a halt, public opinion is soft sour and confused but still deflected enough at this point to give these scoundrels a dark hope.

[DoYouEverWonder]

21. Don't feed the monsters

You should be sent to your room, with no TV for a week for buying into this fear mongering crap. This is exactly what they want you to do, they want you to be afraid.

Just remember that even with the 9-11 attack, the likelihood of you being killed in a terrorist attack is still minuscule compared to let's say crossing the street.

[mopaul]

23. i don't care one bit about my own safety

we all die, and i don't fear being killed in an attack. i'd rather die quick, or standing up fighting. i fear for america.

i've been afraid since i was 10, now i'm 53, so i guess i'll always be afraid of our own government, and nuclear bombs in general.

[thecrow]

24. North Korea = Nukular threat = west coast =

all the ships at sea =
prevent the attempted "strike" = we are heroes = vote for us

and then slam North Korea = Sun Myung Moon's desires = draft

[jeff5]

25. I may be wrong

but I don't think a staged successful attack is politically predictable. I don't know which way it would move the electorate and I don't think Rove does either.

Far more likely would be the staged thwarting of some horrific attack, maybe an LP tanker in San Francisco Bay. Some blood is, of course, good for the cameras, and all the "terriers" need to end up dead so we can "identify" them posthumously. Blowing up a propane tanker attempting a suicide attack would allow Bush* to crow about "protecting the Fatherland".

[jeff5]

26. Toss in a starring role for the Patriot Act

and key information coming from "interrogation" at Gitmo and not only is Bush* swept to election but critics of two of the more odious aspects of this Misadministration are silenced.

Staying off the Golden Gate Bridge in mid-October might be a good idea...

[donhakman]

27. whose whats and wheres

Whose attack shall it be and what group shall carry it out?
Mossad, US mavericks, CIA?

What kind shall it be?

Where?


Is it Mr. Green in the Library with the wrench?


My guess is the Senate when Democrats have a special assembly, with bomb, planted by Bush contractor mavericks.

[Davis_X_Machina]

30. A 'thwarted' attack...

...has the best risk-reward ratio, especially if the 'evidence' is extracted by torture, or via the PATRIOT Act, or both.

Plusses:

• It would enable Junta Boy to crow about the utility of torture, and the wisdom of shredding the Constitution.
  
• The lack of causalties, except the 'perps', will keep the impeachment forces at bay in a way that several thousand dead, again, would not.
  
• There won't be survivors' families, a la 9/11, pissing in the GOP punchbowl.

Minuses:

• May not be spectacular enough in terms of the electorate to save ChimpCo.
  
• May not justify bombing the crap out of random Muslims on cable TV, for the delectation of male voters
  
• Wouldn't justify a state of emergency.
  
• We're already talking about it.

I just hope we're still dealing with rational actors.

[jeff5]

31. These Are the People

who actually thought Iraq was going to be a cakewalk, with flowers in the street and Bush* riding triumphantly under the crossed swords in a HUMMV, complete with codpiece in his desert cammies.

You want "rational" out of them??