Iraq is not going to be sorveriegn because.....

[Stocat]

I have been trying to compile a set of lists to explain to conservatives why Iraq will not be soveriegn. Here is the list I have generated so far. I have also included the declaration of indpendence list of grievances just for the juxtoposition. Any additions will be appreciated.

1) Turning over Saddam in name only- He stays bodily in our custody
2) We will control and protect their oil
3) We chose there "interim" Gov't
4) We dictated terms for what there constitution could and could not say
5) We demanded a redesign of their flag that was widely protested, and only moderately fixed (we agreed to change the colors so that it didn't look like the Jewish flag.)
6) We will still control their prisons.
7) We will give our soldiers another 2 years of complete immunity from any sort of greivance filed by the Iraqi people.
8) We are maintaining a solid millitary presence for at least those 2 years.
9) We expect them to allow us to keep a permanent millitary base there
10) We chose their "interim' Prime Minister
11) We disbanded the community/city based governments and set up viceroys under control of millitary personel
12) we are dictating terms to there government already and that includes not holding elections for key officials.
13) We enter their houses without any kind of warrents and arrest anyone we want
14) We have reserved the right to disband any political party we don't agree with
15) Chalabi's council that was supposed to dissolve is writing itself into the new government.

oh and the biggest one

We are still killing them


good source articles-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8665-2004Jun26.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A757-2004Jun23.html
http://tides.carebridge.org/TIRR/D-TIRR206.htm
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=5600



I will reply with the Declaration list
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[Stocat]

1. Declaration list

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

[the Kelly Gang]

2. good God, when you lay it out like it's frightening

[Stocat]

3. scary huh?

I like to use the declaration becuase it really drives the point home....Really we had less justification for revoltion than they do right now.

[Gloria]

4. Because....the handpicked ICG is already embedded in the "new" interim

government....

From the current World Media Watch.........


1//The Daily Star, Lebanon Friday, June 25, 2004

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=5600



IRAQI’S GOVERNING COUNCIL GRANTS ITSELF NEW LEADERSHIP ROLE

Most members gain seats of power in new government

By Annia Ciezadlo
Special to The Daily Star

BAGHDAD: When the US-appointed Iraqi Governing Council dissolved itself on June 1 - a month ahead of schedule - it seemed like it was all over for a body that Iraqis widely viewed as too close to the United States.



The future seemed especially dim for Ahmed Chalabi, whose office was raided only days earlier by US and Iraqi security forces investigating charges of kidnapping, corruption and robbery.



But even as the council's members gave up their seats, they were writing themselves a leading role in the interim government that takes power next week. In a little-noticed edict, the defunct council guaranteed itself seats on Iraq's Interim National Council, a 100-member assembly that will have power to approve the 2005 budget, veto executive orders with a two-thirds majority, and appoint replacements to the presidency.



The former council also guaranteed itself seats on a headspinning array of committees that will select other members of the new body.



"Essentially, the Iraqi Governing Council seems to have granted itself life after death," said Nathan Brown, a professor of political science at George Washington University in Washington.

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[Stocat]

5. thanks will add source and item n/t

[Stocat]

6. Shameless bump

I didn't want this thread to die so quickl...I need your help to add to this list or spread it around.