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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:11 PM
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Bush's tears.
Did anyone notice in F9/11 that Bush teared up while on the deck of the carrier (Mission Accomplished)? I've noticed that he tears up at other times as well, it seems to be when the applause and cheers for him are genuine (at least in his mind).

Could this be because deep down he knows he's inadequate, does not believe he truly (key word: truly) deserves the accolades, and is moved to tears by it?

I compare this to the typical expected/demanded ass-kissing, as in the movie when he asked the shooting group if anyone had said "good shot". He knows these people are powerless, and have to kiss his ass. This probably happens all the time with him, and he's cynical enough to know that they have no choice.

When the ass kissing appears to come from people who aren't strictly required to cheer, shout, etc. he is genuinely moved by it.

Or am I just over-thinking it? And if it's true, is there any hope for him, or is he a hopeless sociopath?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:14 PM
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1. He's a hopeless sociopath.
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:14 PM
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2. No, I think this man has serious mental problems and it's beginning
to show under stress and pressure:silly:
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:14 PM
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3. To me, he has no real humanity or heart.
Or a brain for that matter.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:17 PM
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4. Just playing his part to the crowd, showing that he's "touched"
Yeah, he's "touched," all right :evilgrin:

Phony, phony, phony. Crying on cue, like his hero Reagan the B actor.
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alvis Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:18 PM
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5. I'd like to see him cry like poppy
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 06:18 PM by alvis
when he lost to Clinton. November 2 can't come quickly enough!

Edit:
I think it will be genuine then.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:21 PM
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6. he probably thinks he does deserve it
he's insecure....he's an idiot....he can't speak well....he's power hungry...he's arrogant...and so F**** stupid he thinks he's on a mission from god
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:51 PM
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7. forced applause
"When the ass kissing appears to come from people who aren't strictly required to cheer, shout, etc. he is genuinely moved by it."

So, you're saying the crew of the USS Abraham Lincoln could have just refused to applaud and cheer for the Commander-in-Chief?
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:40 PM
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8. he only cries when it's about him ...
There was a chilling account of a woman who broke down crying in his office while pleading for the life of someone on death row back when he was governor of Texas. Bush appeared totally unaffected and acted as if she weren't there.

But he bursts into tears at the sendoffs for him in Midland and Austin, and when he refers to himself as "a loving guy" after the terrorist attacks. I believe he cries more than I do!

Maybe he's crying because he knows he's going to be found out and punished -- and that those people who are cheering for him are going to abandon him?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:00 PM
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9. You know how
highly contrived that Mission Accomplished BS was, right? Everything was planned down to the slightest detail by Karl Rove and Co. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him something to make his eyes water. They are PHONY, PHONY people.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:06 PM
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10. "Bring it on"

Bush should pay reparations to EVERY family who's kid died in Iraq after he DARED terrorists to come and kill Americans there.

What a fucking asshole!!!!!

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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:22 PM
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12. Agreed.
It's not a laughing matter when you consider the outcomes of the chimp's reckless language.x(
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:11 PM
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11. The Bush Lies about Mission Accomplished

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Bush's denial that the WH placed the banner on the carrier:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031028-2.html

Q Mr. President, if I may take you back to May 1st when you stood on the USS Lincoln under a huge banner that said, "Mission Accomplished." At that time you declared major combat operations were over, but since that time there have been over 1,000 wounded, many of them amputees who are recovering at Walter Reed, 217 killed in action since that date. Will you acknowledge now that you were premature in making those remarks?

THE PRESIDENT: Nora, I think you ought to look at my speech. I said, Iraq is a dangerous place and we've still got hard work to do, there's still more to be done. And we had just come off a very successful military operation. I was there to thank the troops.

The "Mission Accomplished" sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished. I know it was attributed some how to some ingenious advance man from my staff -- they weren't that ingenious, by the way. But my statement was a clear statement, basically recognizing that this phase of the war for Iraq was over and there was a lot of dangerous work. And it's proved to be right, it is dangerous in Iraq. It's dangerous in Iraq because there are people who can't stand the thought of a free and peaceful Iraq. It is dangerous in Iraq because there are some who believe that we're soft, that the will of the United States can be shaken by suiciders -- and suiciders who are willing to drive up to a Red Cross center, a center of international help and aid and comfort, and just kill.


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The Banner, hung (and designed? and produced?) by the USS Lincoln crew, according to Bush. Looks suspiciously similar to backdrops we see at every Bush speech:



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Bush handlers stage manage every aspect of his appearances, including this one:

Keepers of Bush image lift stagecraft to new heights
By Elisabeth Bumiller
New York Times
Friday, May 16, 2003 Posted: 7:08 AM EDT (1108 GMT)

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/05/16/nyt.bumiller/

The president's image makers, Mr. Bartlett said, work within a budget for White House travel and events allotted by Congress, which for fiscal 2003 was $3.7 million. He said he did not know the specific cost of staging Mr. Bush's Sept. 11 anniversary speech, or what the White House was charged for the lights. A spokeswoman at the headquarters of Musco Lighting in Oskaloosa, Iowa, said the company did not disclose the prices it charged clients.

<snip>

The most elaborate — and criticized — White House event so far was Mr. Bush's speech aboard the Abraham Lincoln announcing the end of major combat in Iraq. White House officials say that a variety of people, including the president, came up with the idea, and that Mr. Sforza embedded himself on the carrier to make preparations days before Mr. Bush's landing in a flight suit and his early evening speech.

Media strategists noted afterward that Mr. Sforza and his aides had choreographed every aspect of the event, even down to the members of the Lincoln crew arrayed in coordinated shirt colors over Mr. Bush's right shoulder and the "Mission Accomplished" banner placed to perfectly capture the president and the celebratory two words in a single shot. The speech was specifically timed for what image makers call "magic hour light," which cast a golden glow on Mr. Bush.

"If you looked at the TV picture, you saw there was flattering light on his left cheek and slight shadowing on his right," Mr. King said. "It looked great."

The trip was attacked by Democrats as an expensive political stunt, but White House officials said that Democrats needed a better issue for taking on the president. A New York Times/CBS News nationwide poll conducted May 9-12 found that the White House may have been right: 59 percent of those polled said it was appropriate, and not an effort to make political gain, for Mr. Bush to dress in a flight suit and announce the end of combat operations on the aircraft carrier.


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Bush handlers admit that the event was SO stage-managed that the ship had to slow down so San Diego would not be visible to the cameras


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A22502-2003May6?language=printer

Explanation for Bush's Carrier Landing Altered
By Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 7, 2003; Page A20

President Bush chose to make a jet landing on an aircraft carrier last week even after he was told he could easily reach the ship by helicopter, the White House said yesterday, changing the explanation it gave for Bush's "Top Gun" style event.

Bush's televised landing on the USS Abraham Lincoln, for which the president wore a flight suit and a helmet and took underwater survival training in the White House swimming pool, was the dramatic start to a visit to the carrier that included an air show and a televised speech to the nation. In his address, the president declared victory in Iraq in front of cheering sailors and a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished."

White House officials had said, both before and after Bush's landing in a Navy S-3B Viking jet, that he took the plane solely to avoid inconveniencing the sailors, who were returning home after a deployment of nearly 10 months. The officials said that Bush decided not to wait until the ship was in helicopter range to avoid delaying the troops' homecoming.

But instead of the carrier being hundreds of miles offshore, as aides had said it would be, the Lincoln was only about 30 miles from the coast when Bush made his "tail-hook" landing, in which the jet was stopped by cables on deck. Navy officers slowed and turned the ship when land became visible.

<snip>

Citing Fleischer's revised explanation, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) wrote to the General Accounting Office to ask for a "full accounting" of the cost of the trip.


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An oddly similar backdrop:



Mission Accomplished:



Another flag backdrop:



One more:



They used the SAME flag graphic:

This...



Makes this:



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http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/27_mission.html
'Mission accomplished': Bush brag or Demo fib?
U.S. News- Washington Whispers ^ | 09/29/03 | Paul Bedard

After weeks of Democratic assaults that President Bush was a nitwit for declaring "mission accomplished" in Iraq during his May 1 landing and victory speech on the USS Abraham Lincoln, the White House is bidding to set the story straight. The issue should be a simple one: Bush never uttered those words. "The president," argues communications boss Dan Bartlett, "said exactly the opposite: The mission continues." But Bush stood under a banner declaring "mission accomplished." Why? Bartlett says that the Lincoln's captain had the banner made up to thank his crew for the longest-ever carrier tour, not to declare the war over. "It is something the troops are really proud of," says Bartlett. "Of course they can hang the banner." But the picture was all the Demos needed. "On TV," he says, "they never play the bite of the president, they just show the image with the banner." Democratic polls show that the public buys their spin, which doesn't really surprise Bartlett. "Look, perception becomes reality," he says. "But the facts don't back it up."

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http://www.notinourname.net/resources_links/bush_image_may03.htm

.... First among equals is Scott Sforza, a former ABC producer who was hired by the Bush campaign in Austin, Tex., and who now works for Dan Bartlett, the White House communications director. Mr. Sforza created the White House "message of the day" backdrops and helped design the $250,000 set at the United States Central Command forward headquarters in Doha, Qatar, during the Iraq war.

Mr. Sforza works closely with Bob DeServi, a former NBC cameraman whom the Bush White House hired after seeing his work in the 2000 campaign. Mr. DeServi, whose title is associate director of communications for production, is considered a master at lighting. "You want it, I'll heat it up and make a picture," he said early this week. Mr. DeServi helped produce one of Mr. Bush's largest events, a speech to a crowd in Revolution Square in Bucharest last November.

To stage the event, Mr. DeServi went so far as to rent Musco lights in Britain, which were then shipped across the English Channel and driven across Europe to Romania, where they lighted Mr. Bush and the giant stage across from the country's former Communist headquarters.

A third crucial player is Greg Jenkins, a former Fox News television producer in Washington who is now the director of presidential advance. Mr. Jenkins manages the small army of staff members and volunteers who move days ahead of Mr. Bush and his entourage to set up the staging of all White House events. ....

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/10/28/national2020EST0815.DTL

After the news conference, a White House spokeswoman said the Lincoln's crew asked the White House to have the sign made. The White House asked a private vendor to produce the sign, and the crew put it up, said the spokeswoman. She said she did not know who paid for the sign.

Later, a Pentagon spokesman called The Associated Press to reiterate that the banner was the crew's idea.

"It truly did signify a mission accomplished for the crew," Navy Cmdr. Conrad Chun said, adding the president's visit marked the end of the ship's 10-month international deployment.

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http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2346349.php

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"The president's image makers, Mr. Bartlett said, work within a budget for White House travel and events allotted by Congress, which for fiscal 2003 was $3.7 million."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/05/16/nyt.bumiller/

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Asked if Bush had misled people by appearing in front of the banner, McClellan said "the Navy put it up and it was the Navy at the -- asked us to take care of the production of the banner. And we said that yesterday."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1517&e=13&u=/afp/us_bush_iraq_mission

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http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/10/ana03291.html

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/03/national/03LETT.html

WHITE HOUSE LETTER
Two Words on a Banner That No Author Wants to Claim
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: November 3, 2003

<snip>

....Gen. Wesley K. Clark told reporters that Mr. Bush's comments were outrageous and added, "I guess the next thing we're going to hear is that the sailors told him to wear the flight suit and prance around on the aircraft carrier."

<snip, as the author tries and tries to find out WHO on the ship requested the banner>

Next stop was again Mr. McClellan, who was told that so far the Navy had not produced a "Mission Accomplished" accomplice. Mr. McClellan said he would see what he could do. Soon enough, Commander Daniels called to say that one person in the meetings preparing for the ship's homecoming was Cmdr. Ron Horton, the executive officer of the Lincoln and the ship's second in command.

Commander Horton was too busy to come to the phone, Lt. Cmdr. Daniels said, but he recounted what he said Commander Horton had told him about a shipboard meeting in late April with officers of the Lincoln and members of the White House advance team. The team, including security, had boarded the ship in Hawaii around April 28 to make preparations for the president's speech — some 75 to 100 people strong.

"The White House said, `Is there anything we can do for you?' " Commander Daniels said. "Somebody in that meeting said, `You know, it would sure look good if we could have a banner that said `Mission Accomplished.' "

And who was that someone? "No one really remembers," Commander Daniels said.

<more>

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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:23 PM
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13. Well, I said it was contrived
and you proved it. Wow. Don't say we don't provide documentation on DU. Very impressive.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:00 PM
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16. The graphics are by DU poster Atomic Cat
We had a big thread on this at the time. That particular Bush-LIE sort of, well, bothered me. It was so freaking blatant.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 09:23 PM
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14. Bush mimes Orwell !!!!
It's dangerous in Iraq because there are people who can't stand the thought of a free and peaceful Iraq. It is dangerous in Iraq because there are some who believe that we're soft,

Straight from the Horse's mouth.

Freedom is Slavery.
War is Peace.

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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:20 PM
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15. IMO, I can't judge him as a man..
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 10:21 PM by lostnfound
To the extent that I would characterize him, I think he has some weaknesses of character, which may not have been such a big deal but they were supermagnified in his life by being grossly overpromoted after being handicapped in life by having a famous (Machiavellian?) father and a mean-hearted mother.

I feel sorry for him, because he seems to believe his life depends on being like his father, or living up to the family dream, rather than ever imagining that he could have worth as an individual all by himself..

What's the best and worst that he could have become, given his upbringing? Who knows.. For all we know, Barbara & George were abusive. For all we know, W has something organically wrong in his brain. For all we know, he is mostly an unwitting simple man struggling with ordinary demons of alcoholism and low-self-esteem, being manipulated by Satan himself. ;)

We do know he's not capable as a president.
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