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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:54 PM
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A leftist ICON posts on DU and you guys.....
Do so well at eating your own!!!
The Hitler thread by DWolper is obviously David Wolper.
Try googling David Wolper.
You guys are too funny!!!!!
EAT YOUR OWN!!!
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:56 PM
Response to Original message
1. However
Feel free to eat him up. He gives too many $$$$ to lefty causes.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:57 PM
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2. Buh-bye, jsummers!
See you at the movies! :hi:
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Accordiing to you guys
I'll see you in the streets. This is WAR isn't it?
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Let's go, tough guy.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Like I'd be afraid of a RED SOX fan?
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. This one, yeah. But not to worry, I have no interest in meeting you at all
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:05 PM by bigbillhaywood
but if it ever comes to street battles, I'm pretty sure based on past experience I'd do okay for myself, but you never can tell, I could get killed off the bat. A chance I'm willing to take to keep the fascist thugs at bay.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #15
26. good luck supporting your lying, torturing, murdering piece of shit
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:06 PM by maggrwaggr
who wasn't even elected in the first place!

You support "the old man" you support

a. corporate welfare
b. torture
c. murder
d. lying
e. treason

Perhaps they'll let you visit him in jail.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #15
32. Might want to consider it, at least.
There's a bunch of 'em.
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. PERPETRATOR!!!
You want to start a fight, huh? We talk first. Bloodshed ONLY as A LAST RESORT.
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. My sentiments exactly. nt
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Now you know that jsummers is actually...
I dunno, maybe Julia?
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. No, jsummers, obviously Jamie Summers of "Bionic Woman " Fame.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Jim it is.
I signed up after reading so much shit thrown at the old man. You guys play mean!!!!!
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Pot, meet kettle!
n/t
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #18
27. Hey! I never threw shit at your old man!
Your preznit maybe, but I don't even know your old man. How long have you been married? :D
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #18
28. You honestly think that because someone signs up with a name
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:06 PM by Lars39
lists hobbies that that person might have, it's really that person?
You should have been here when A Shwarzenneger and Gray Davis were posting.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #28
35. I already said
I don't know if it's really him. I just recognize his name because I was a big fan of making Of The President which was on Discovery Times not long ago. Willy Wonka too. It might not be. But if yo're gonna sign up under a fake famous name why his? But ok, you MIGHT be right about this - who knows? But you're wrong on everything else. In fact you're nutty - you know - the LOOOOONEY LEFT.
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #35
52. Enough of the ad hominem crap.
If you have something constructive to say, say it. If not, get a life.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #52
66. Get a life?
And you sit around all dat and photoshop pictures of the President? Find wildeyed conspiracy theories and you ask ME TO GET A LIFE???
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #66
77. Excuse me, moron.
I do other things besides post at DU. Hell, I don't even know how to photoshop.

Conspiracy theories, my ass. I and most others in this forum deal with FACTS, THE TRUTH -- which is something jerk-offs like yourself cannot handle.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #35
63. I'm amazed you are still here!
But, I am one of those 'wild-eyed crazies', I'm soooo left I'm RIGHT.....and I'm a soccer mom w/ an advanced degree who is makin' waaaay more $$ than you.

You are pathetic.

I got a WHOPPING tax break this year, and Hubby and I will be using every penny of it to 'Round-Up' the nasty shrubs in this country.

You would do better for your soul and psyche to spend your time in a line for F911.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #35
133. And somehow, miraculously
YOU are right? I mean other than being on the right, but come to think of it, if I face you then your right is really my left. Welcome aboard.
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Governor Davis Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #35
134. Hey the looney left supported me..the mushy middle voted for
the Gropenator.

BTW, a bit gullible aren't you?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #28
59. A Schwarzenegger is still around
See his posts from time to time. Author of the very weird 'unknown animal' thread a few months back.

Haven't seen Newsman Matt Drudge recently, though.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #59
85. Yep, he pops in when you least expect it!
That A Schwarzenegger and Gray Davis thread was priceless. :)
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #85
92. Never saw that one
Got it in your bookmarks?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #92
103. Found it! Govenor Davis and A-Schwarzenegger ....
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #103
107. HA HA!
Great stuff. Thanks.
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Governor Davis Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #103
136. Alas! One of my finer moments and I still got my ass kicked.
:cry:
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:00 AM
Response to Reply #18
138. he's jeb dim
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #13
97. It's Joanie Sommers, I tell ya
of "Johnny Get Angry" fame.
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Tosca Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #2
22. Bye Jummers!!
Have a nice Fall!

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Jesse_W Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:58 PM
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3. Huh? What thread? URL, please.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. Look below... thread titled " what's the Hitler love in all about?"
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:58 PM
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5. i don't know what the fuck
you're talking about, but i'm sure glad you just outed yourself...


one less freeper is always a good thing.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. What the HELL is a FREEPER?
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. Hah. Well, if you really don't know check it out, I'm sure you'll be glad
you did.
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. Your feigned ignorance is appalling.
n/t
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. Got a mirror handy? n/t
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #19
25. Seriously - what IS a freeper???
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. Find out for yourself.
Don't expect us to do your work for you.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. I just looked
Never been to FREE REPUBLIC. Maybe I should check it out
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. Good.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:12 PM by playahata1
STAY THERE. You have nothing worthwhile to contribute here.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #34
42. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #42
47. I didn't pick him.
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #42
60. You are a real piece of work, I daresay.
I will not say what you are also a piece of, however.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #42
62. Now that's the response we were looking for, there Jimmy...
Kerry is "unqualified" because he has some dough (his wife's) and looks like Lurch.

Your guy:

Was suspended from the Air National Guard because he wouldn't take a physical. (sniff)

Our Guy:

Won a lot of medals in 'Nam. Then came back and testified before congress at age 27.

Your Guy:

Managed to find most of the dry oil wells in W. Texas

Our Guy:

Is a multiple-term US Senator

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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #62
76. And MY GUY is PRESIDENT!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #76
126. Nope, 'fraid not. He's an unelected dictator who is responsible for the..
...deaths of tens of thousands of people to include those that died in America on 911.

In addition to that, he is responsible for the worst economy since the Great Depression. Where are all of those jobs FratBoy keeps talking about?

Take a hike, junior.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:31 AM
Response to Reply #76
141. That's debatable.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #42
72. I love this
"John Kerry is a rich idiot..."

Replace John Kerry with George Bush.

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #42
86. Only a damned fool or a republican would choose a president
based on looks.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. Freeper is more of a state of mind.
Or, more accurately, a state of mindlessness. Don't worry, you'll fit right in there. :hi:
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Slickriddles Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #25
106. message deleted
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:54 PM by Slickriddles
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:00 PM
Response to Original message
12. deleted
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:01 PM by Mayberry Machiavelli
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:01 PM
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14. My kind of leftists are iconoclasts.
Hence, no icons.

What, you expect hushed obeisance and a reverent suspension of critical judgement? I doubt DWolper did. Whoever the fuck he really is.

We're not the dittoheads. You may think that's a weakness. But it's our strength.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. I just Think
It's funny how you beat up your own!
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #21
31. Who else is laughing?
Nobody but you -- and you are only making an ass of yourself by blowing onto this forum like Hurricane Whatever.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #21
69. If Chomsky, Pilger or Zin
came here and stated that a bunch of DUers have love for Hitler I'd tell them to go jump too. I'd doubt that this guy is who you think he is (assuming he's not you) but I couldn't give a flying if it was.

Unlike the sheep on the other side of the political side of the fence, I don't slavishly subscribe to someone's POV just because their political flag is tied to the same mast as mine.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #14
110. Why, thanks, Minsy ol' pal!
And there was much rejoicing.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:04 PM
Response to Original message
24. I know! I'll make a username GWBush and it'll be "obvious" that I am
the president, posting on DU! Ask me anything! Idjit.:think:
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. I don't know
I don't know if it really IS David Wolper. But he signed a post that way and he seemed pretty sharp. I disagree with the dude but he sounded like it could be him. Hell who knows? It's just funny how somebody can disagree with one thing and you guys are all over a person.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. I think it's funny
how a person can pick any username they want and you assume it's really them!

I think I'll change my user name to Michael Moore, come on here, post, and confuse the shit out of you!

HA!
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. "confuse the shit out of you!" I don't think that will be very hard, LOL.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. LOL
true, I didn't think about that, just thinking about how much fun it would be.

QUICK, everyone! Into your fake leftist icon names!!!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. Or maybe my user name will be
JConason

Or AFranken

or

Ahuffington

That would be fun.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #36
46. Look
I shouldn't even have mentioned who the name was. It was your EATING YOUR OWN that's so damn funny! NOTHING IS EVER RIGHT with you guys! Never! It's always bad Bush Bad Bush. Bitch bitch bitch
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #46
50. Ah you admit you were wrong
then what is the point of further discussion with you?

Buh-bye!

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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #46
57. We debate things here. You want ideological purity and stifling of
dissent? Go (back) to Free Republic, or build a time machine and go back to the Nazi regime or forward to the American Fascist police state. But whatever you do please leave here.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #46
127. So, why don't you tell us what's good about your NeoCon Junta.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #29
44. All right. You made me do it.

Now I've pointed the finger at you. Will you go away now?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #44
129. Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #29
100. Hey jumbles, tell them what your post or Wolper's post was about.
Then explain to them how you or Wolper could not reply when someone else of an ethinic class that was oppressed by Hitler and whose relatives were killed during Hitler's regime took offense to Wolpers rants about how appalling that anyone would equate * to Hitler.

Just like a troll, out of context, out of context, out of context.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:12 PM
Response to Original message
38. yeah, it's THE David Wolper
becasue nobody would ever use a fake name on a message board.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #38
49. I'm actually the Toronto Blue Jays mascot!
I'd have thought that would be obvious to everyone.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #38
56. I think it might be. Read some of his responses.
jsummers is a freeper, but I think he may be right about this.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #56
70. OK, so it is...
then "Hi there David Wolper"!
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:13 PM
Response to Original message
41. damn mods, sack this freeper already. jeez.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #41
53. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #53
61. A loudmouth is a good thing
but only when it's wired up to a functioning brain.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #53
64. ...
"when a fag wants to promote his fudgepacking"

you rightwingers are so disgusting. i wish i could knock your rotten teeth in.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #64
71. But YOU
can say every nasty thing in the book about the other side? HYPOCRITE
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #71
94. EVIDENCE, PLEASE, YOU STUPID NINNY!
You accuse people of something, you damn well better back it up with FACTS. Show us some threads in which we "say every nasty thing in the book about the other side."
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #53
68. Congrats on having 27 posts, jsummers!!! Keep on posting!!!
:eyes:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:26 PM
Original message
Funny how with Freepers it always comes around to anal sex
:shrug:
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:49 PM
Response to Original message
111. Yeah I noticed that!
I used to go to a Dean chat room on the Dean site and there were these three trolls who were OBSESSED with anal sex, I swear to you.

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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #53
96. We don't hate free speech
We just hate all the noise from disruptive assholes. ( Not that I'm accusing you or anything)

If it was David Wolper, so what? What's your point?
I didn't agree with his points, and I saw many others who either did or didn't. Do we have to kiss his ass because he's famous?

We don't "eat our own", but we don't always agree with people who share a similar perspective.

If you think talking about "fags" and "promoting fudgepacking" elevates the level of discourse, and should be considered more than mindless bleating, you should really reconsider.

Do you know what the definition of chatroom disruption is?

If you don't, read your posts, and learn it.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #53
104. No, we just hate disruptors.
Same thing with free republic. DU is an oasis, where liberals are supposed to be able to come and chat without having a freeper like you jumping in and screaming at us that "Bush=God".

If you want to debate, there are plenty of sites around the net. But this isn't one of them.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:15 PM
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45. Bush IS Hitler.
They both follow Mars.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:15 PM
Response to Original message
48. So, you post as DWolper then you post as somebody else
who points out the DWolper post. What a disruptor freep asshole you are. Fuck off lame ass.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. I think he is right about who DWolper. Read this post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1869640&mesg_id=1869779&page=

It's eloquent, he speaks of working in the film industry.

I think it probably is David Wolper.

This guy jsummers is a freeper, or a soon to be freepers, but I think he was right.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #51
67. This is the internet. Why would you assume anything of the sort?
It could just as easily be someone doing some other work in the film industry who admires Wolper. Or one of 5,000,000 internet poseurs.

I'm not saying it's not him. But even if it were David Wolper, or Bill Clinton, or Thomas Freaking Jefferson, if people are agreeing or disagreeing with the content of the post, that is the issue.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #67
74. It could be anyone . You are right. And people can disagree with his
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:24 PM by thatgirl
post all they want.

I am just saying that this guy could be right about who he is. That's all.

Judging by the his writing style, and his comments, and his profile I feel like it may be him. Of course I could be stunningly wrong.

But what's the big deal in saying I think it is?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #51
75. Naaa, The bastard is a fraud.
The disruptors are evolving. But they are still just as stupid.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #75
88. Perhaps it's not the David Wolper, but I'l bet my left arm it's
not jsummers either.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #88
99. It was him or one of his friends for sure.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #99
101. maybeI am just niave but I cannot imagine anyone having
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:36 PM by thatgirl
that amount of time on their hands.
I don't doubt that people do this kind of thing, I just don't get it.

I still think it may be legit. The only thing that causes me any doubt is that jsummer kicked that post 3xs .


Isn't their anything more productive that one could do with is life than creating fake identities to disrupt a message board?

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #101
108. anything more productive that one could do
Sure there is, but DU takes on major importance to twits like that. The CU site is loaded/devoted to them.

THe tip=off on this was the fact that this guy felt it was necessary to go out of the way to point out the other post. This is seldom done.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #108
109. Damn, these people are idiotic. What's the CU site?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #109
112. Aw come on. You know what I'm talking about.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #112
113. No, I don't. I googled and I got some stuff about the University of
Colorado, Cuba and the Computer Underground.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #113
115. Ok, just once
conservative underground.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #115
116. They're enjoying it. Well, two of them are, anyway...
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 12:02 AM by Wonk
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7123

Care to guess which of the two started this thread in the first place?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #116
118. I couldn't believe it, I just sort of guessed it might be them
and poof there it was at the top of that pathetic site. I scare myself sometimes!
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:15 AM
Response to Reply #118
121. I stand corrected. There really are people with that much time on their
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 12:16 AM by thatgirl
hands.

There is an entire section devoted to what is dicussed here. And there admins name is Skinner? WTF????

And man, they hate Mopaul and Mari.

I should give up this internet thing and go back to reading books.

Sometimes I feel like I have enterd bizarro world.

Thanks for the info .

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:41 AM
Response to Reply #112
142. I think it will all become clear at the great unmasking
LOL
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #51
130. I personally tried to engage this "DWolper" character and I doubt...
...seriously if he is THE David Wolper. He never responded to a single one of my comments.

For instance, he stated that some DUers had mentioned that Hitler had some "redeeming qualities". Since I had not seen the posts to which he was alluding, I responded with a question about who these posters might be.

No response.

In another post he stated that there was no evidence that FratBoy was similar to Hitler. I responded rather strongly to that post also.

No response.

Any poster can cut and paste information from a bio and claim to be anybody they want to be. IMHO, I think that's the case with this poster.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #48
55. Ah good call Casual
veeeeery interesting.

It never worked for a second jsummers. It must really piss you off.

Oh well, have fun in the graveyard, k?
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #48
58. Yeah, yeah. That's IT! How did you KNOW?????
I wish I never would have mentioned the name stuff. NOBODY wants to argue my point which is WHY do you eat your own?
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #58
65. I haven't eaten anyone today
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:21 PM by Moonbeam_Starlight
I've only had some cantelope, a little bit of coffee, some chicken and dumplings, an ice cream sandwich and a salad for dinner.

But I can't say I've eaten any people today.

On edit, my name is ACTUALLY Moonbeam_Starlight :eyes:
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #58
89. so you supoprt drug addiction then
given "one of your own" is a hillbilly-heroin popping junkie?
you beleive in going AWOL and/or avoiding service given that many of "own" have?

Nobody's arguing your point because you don't have one - the thing about political debate is that one is free to engage in it with anyone - whether you agree with 98% or their beliefs or none of them.

Now go back to scraping up roadkill for dinner and stop wasting our time Cletus
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:37 PM
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102. some voracious reptiles mistake vigorous debate for "eating"
that's because THEY dream about eating liberals for breakfast. (oh, and never can, becasue the liberals are always smarter and they HATE that!) I have a feeling the REAL Wolper would be quite tolerant of other people's opinions, excepting perhaps anti-semitism. But that's not what we're talking about is it?

I can only think of one kind of person that would be outraged or offended by anyone discussing the obvious similarities between a dictator and the Clown in Chief who wishes he were a dictator.

Here is how they are alike. Please explain how BushCo does NOT embody these traits:

TWELVE WARNING SIGNS OF FASCISM
12 warning signs of fascism


1. Exuberant nationalism

Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic images, slogans and symbols - National flags are seen everywhere in public display. Territorial aggression is explained to be mere destiny -- an unbidden greatness thrust upon the nation by history.

It is this burden of unique responsibility that now raises the fascist state above all previous constraint, no longer bound by international obligations, treaties or law.

2. Enemies Identified

This national cause is identified as unity against enemies - The people are rallied around a unifying patriotism directed against some common threat: communists, liberals, a racial, ethnic or religious minority, intellectuals, homosexuals, terrorists, etc.

The state's message is sometimes couched in an easily recognized religious theme. Amazingly, this language is used even when the full context of the teaching shows the meaning to be diametrically opposed. Any dissent is "siding with the enemy", and therefor treasonous.

3. Rights Disappear

Disdain for human and political rights - Fascist regimes foster an artificial climate of fear by intentionally amplifying stress and anxiety. Citizens naturally feel a strong need for security and are easily persuaded to ignore abuses in the name of safety. The few still willing to question are met with bullying and smear campaigns of intimidation.

Legislative bodies, if still in existence at all, are cowed into rubber-stamp submission with occasional ceremonial opposition. The judiciary tends to become activist in support of state views. The public often looks away, or even enthusiastically approves as rights are stripped away.

The concept of the individual inevitably yields ground, exchanged for the promised safety of the all-powerful state.

4. Secrecy Demanded

Obsession with secrecy and national security - The workings of government become increasingly hidden. Questioning of authority is discouraged at all levels of society. From office talk at the water cooler up through the entire apparatus of rule, guarded speech and secrecy become ends in themselves.

Troubling questions are muted and entire areas of scrutiny are placed out of bounds by simply invoking "national security".

5. Military Glorified

Supremacy of the military - The military establishment receives a disproportionate share of government resources, even as pressing domestic needs are neglected. Individual soldiers and military culture are glamorized and made constantly visible.

This provides both an object for public glorification, as well as sharp warning to possibly restless citizens that the power of the state stands close at hand, ready to use its great potential for violence.

6. Corporations Shielded

Corporate power is protected - Typically, a segment of the business elite plays a major role in bringing fascists to national leadership, often from an unsavory obscurity. This marriage of big money and raw violence is often considered by historians to be the hallmark and backbone of fascism.

As these business-government-military interests meld, the significant threat of organized labor is clearly recognized. Labor unions and their support organizations are either co-opted successfully or ruthlessly suppressed and eliminated as soon as possible.

7. Corruption Unchecked

Rampant cronyism and corruption - Fascist states maintain power through this relatively small group of associates, mutually appointing each other to interlocking and rotating positions in government, business and the military.

With this degree of control, they make full use of both official secrecy and the ready threat of state violence to insulate themselves from any meaningful criticism. They are not accountable and are shielded from scrutiny in a way unthinkable in a democratic society.

8. Media Controlled

Controlled mass media - Sometimes the media are controlled directly by clumsy government functionaries. At other times, sympathetic corporate media insiders shape the themes indirectly, and therefor more skillfully. Image regularly trumps content as the "news" is presented breathlessly and with flashy stage effects.

A practiced formula of tenacious repetition brings even the most absurd lie into acceptance over time. By design, the very language itself and the coloration employed will push alternate views "out of the mainstream".

The terms of any remaining debate are narrowly defined to the state's advantage, making it easy to marginalize a truly differing perspective. Censorship and "self-censorship", especially in wartime, is common.

9. Rampant Sexism

Rampant sexism - Governments of fascist states tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Traditional gender roles are made even more rigid and exaggerated. Condemnation of abortion and a virulent homophobia are commonly built into broad policy.

10. Intellectual Bullying

Disdain for intellectuals - Fascist society tends to create an environment of extreme hostility to critical thought in general, and to academics in particular.

Ideologically driven "science" is elevated and lavishly funded, while any expression not in line with the state view is at first ignored, then challenged, then ridiculed and finally stamped out.

It is not uncommon for academics to be pressured to attack the work of their insufficiently patriotic peers. Writings are censored; teachers are fired and arrested. Free artistic expression in new works is openly attacked, and existing works deemed unpatriotic are often publicly destroyed.


11. Militarized Police

Obsession with crime and punishment - Fascist society is often willing to overlook police abuses and forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. Long jail sentences for clearly political offenses, torture and then assassination are at first uncomfortably tolerated, and then start to pile up to become the norm.

Often a national police force is given virtually unlimited power to snoop through the civilian population. Networks of surveillance and informers are employed, both for actual intelligence gathering and also as a means to keep neighbors and co-workers isolated and mistrustful of each other.

12. Elections Stolen

Fraudulent elections - In the disordered time as fascists are rising to power, the electoral arena becomes increasingly confusing, corrupted, and manipulated.

There is rising public cynicism and distrust over what are widely believed to be phony elections manipulated by moneyed influence, obvious media bias, smear campaigns, ballot tampering, judicial interference, intimidation, or outright assassination of potential opposition. Fascists in power have been known to use this disorder as the rationale to delay elections indefinitely.


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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:45 AM
Response to Reply #102
143. Sounds like the GOP platform to me...
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #58
120. Listen jumbles, we do not "eat our own". We do however disagree
with each other from time to time as we are independent thinkers. Unlike those on the other side, we do not follow our leaders like sheep. If we differ we state our differences. Wolper's post was most disagreeable. As one of the posters who found his "owning" of the Holocaust rather distasteful and the fact that he objected to anyone equating * to Hitler simply on the lame premise that it lessened the horrors of the Holocaust absolutely ridiculous, I have no qualms admitting that I posted a dissenting view.

As noted earlier, Wolper never responded to my post and as a Pole who had family members who were oppressed and killed by Hitler, I find it sad that Wolper did not have the courtesy to respond to my post. I believe the real D. Wolper would have responded.

That being said, most trolls when confronted with facts and the truth simply ignore and torment, thus I do not believe Wolper was the real thing.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:45 AM
Response to Reply #58
144. More important question:
Why are you living your life this way? This is a very sick behavior, pretending to be someone else, then you run shrieking back to your little homemade board to boast about it. I feel so, so sorry for you. You're pathetic, you poor, poor thing.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:17 PM
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54. Yeah...and I'm the real Angelus.
:eyes:

Dumbass.
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jsummers Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:23 PM
Response to Original message
73. YOU ALL MISSED MY POINT --- SORRRY!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #73
79. No we didn't miss your point
we DISSED your point. ANYONE can choose ANY name on the internet. Doesn't mean it IS that person.

And you seemed to take some glee in this idea that we "eat our own"? No, we just aren't afraid to disagree with each other. We don't all have to march lock-step with each other, like right wingnuts do.

So what else did you want to talk about before you get tombstoned?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #73
81. Yeah, a sorry ass freeper
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #73
90. The only point you have
is on top of your head.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:24 PM
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78. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:26 PM
Response to Original message
80. jsummers, a true survivor! He's up to 30 posts despite being ID'd
as a disruptor by post 14. Let's see how much more he can flame, before the rain comes down. I'm taking a pool on how long he lasts. Go jsummers, I got a lot of cash riding on your ass.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #80
83. I say 45 posts
is that too high you think?
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #83
95. Fuck 31. All bets are off. nt
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:26 PM
Response to Original message
82. Ahhh, that's nothing
A few celebs linger or have lingered here.

Kerry's stepson posts here.

But I think this guy was the most famous person to post on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=106088
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:26 PM
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84. FINALLY!!!!


thanks MODS!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #84
87. How do you know when it happens? eom
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #87
91. go to his profile.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #87
93. Check their profile (if they have one) and you will see the tombstone.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 11:29 PM by Mayberry Machiavelli
Sometimes they still seem able to post for a while, like a chicken with its head cut off.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:31 PM
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98. Finally the tombstone!
I wonder if we'll have to put up with implosions like this when F911 comes out on PPV, and then HBO, and then DVD...OMG! :D
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:42 PM
Response to Original message
105. Wow, are you real? Can I touch you?
Eeew! Squishy!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:57 PM
Response to Original message
114. I'm really Bigfoot!
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 12:17 AM by Hubert Flottz
But you mommy likes me!
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:02 AM
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117. Gee you should have been here a few years back....
we had LBMayer and WarnerBro all over this board. Not to mention GenSarnoff and MCThalberg
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hedgetrimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:11 AM
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119. eat anything, anyone... there is an idealogical line, invisible...watch it
the heavy weight of whim and fancy blanketing the overlapping threads and babble... stand the line or go down punk... I don't post much here anymore I've found too many crocodiles lying in wait for a tasty morsel who steps outa line... that is however the common ideal of most authoritarian sects within a culture... it is true on many different political venues... although I will give the republicans their fair bow, they may all hate each other and they may criticize one another but they hold the party platform like a secret fraternity...
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:18 AM
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122. ((((((((((WARNING! THIS POSTER HAS ALREADY BEEN TOMBSTONED!))))))))))
Why continue to post here?!?

:Shrug:
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TryingToWarnYou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:19 AM
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123. DWolper = David Wolper? Are you psychic?
That could be anyone, genius. Just like your name may not be Jsummers and mine might not be TryingToWarnYou. Get a brain, Moran
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #123
125. Yah I guess I shouldn't have been so disrespectful to the "Jesus" poster.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:21 AM
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124. I don't give a shit
I have no icons. I am my own icon. :P
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 12:53 AM
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128. I'm sorry.. who's David Wolper and why should I care, exactly??
I guess some of us didn't realize we were in the midst of some liberal greatness.. You should have warned us.

Frankly, I found his entire thread idea to be so inane and GOP-serving that I didn't post on it. I have yet to see more than a handful of truly socially inept, immature DU people say anything CLOSE to what the Famous David Wolper suggests. I frankly find threads like that to be just more fodder for the freeper infiltrator types. I'm sorry.. now, WHO is Wolper again?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #128
131. Yes, and who the HELL is David Wolper???" Paging "David Wolper"!!!
If he's some kind of guru or sage why did he do a drive-by post and not answer ANY of my salient questions?

I'll be waiting for you "David Wolper," and your tombstoned friend in the other post. There's a lot of us asking you questions "David Wolper." Don't you want to back up any of your statements?
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nonkultur Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:08 AM
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132. He is a documentary and film maker
http://www.davidlwolper.com

His company did the ulimate documentary of Nazi Germany
Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

and also Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory. :)
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:42 AM
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135. What does it matter what username someone assumes? The internet is
the "great equalizer." Their posts stand on the merits, or they do not. Would you RWer's genuflect and bow and scrape over any crap that a RW celebrity like shrub would spew out of his piehole?

On second thought, nevermind...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:44 AM
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137. I liked "Willy Wonka" and his documentary on the Nazis too.
But I have problems with what he said in the other post. Maybe he is somebody and I'm nobody in "real life," but on this forum we should treat each other as equals.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:21 AM
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139. Yep...
Welcome to DU David Wolper...
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:25 AM
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140. I could post as barbara bush
doesn't make me her.

PS..If it really was David Wolper then does that mean we have to lay down and accept whatever he says as the last word on the subject?
Get real.
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