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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:21 PM
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Poll question: What is your race?
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 02:37 PM by Delano
What is your race?

Please don't put "mixed" unless you are half/half, please put your dominant ethnic background.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:23 PM
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1. I don't know about the rest,
but my race is human.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:24 PM
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2. Will answering this affect whether I get the bank account
&free rifle?
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:25 PM
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3. good question
eom
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:26 PM
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7. LOL!
That reminds me of a bit in one of Wanda Sykes' standup routines where she makes fun of the term "African American" (which I don't like either). She goes into a bank and asks for a loan, is of course denied but then she goes "no, I was black last week, I'm African American now. I'll just go take whatever I need." :evilgrin:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:25 PM
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4. I chose "Other" as my race
I'm "human" and that's how I've always answered the question about race on teh Census.
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:26 PM
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5. 'Other'
Homo Sapien sapiens

Although I usually don't like to admit or say it too loud
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:26 PM
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6. 1/2 Irish-American. 1/2 Arab.
I suppose Arab is technically "Caucasian", but few people in this country view Arabs as white.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:27 PM
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8. Uhm, you listed races.
Ethnicities are countries of origin.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:31 PM
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10. Oh, fine, I'll correct.
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 02:34 PM by Delano
Nitpicky liberals grumble mumble.........

By the way, there was some ethnicity questions - Hispanic/latino is technically "white". The only reason it gets a separate category is that so many speak a foreign language, and that they are treated as a separate demographic for so many purposes, where as Italian-Americans, for example, are simply assumed to be "assimilated".
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:08 PM
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34. Assimilated? Not when there are still prejudices against us
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 03:14 PM by sirjwtheblack
The Irish and Italians still encounter some nasty prejudices. For example, I've been treated very differently (in both bad and good ways) by people who feel that no Italian could possibly be successful unless he or she were mafia connected. Many people of other ethnicities encounter similar forms of prejudice based on our heritage.

On edit: That's in no way to imply that Italians, Irish, or any other white ethnicity has it equally bad or worse than any racial minority does in this country. I know better than that. I apologize if anyone got the wrong idea from my statement.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:18 PM
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39. Fair enough, but that wasn't the issue.
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 03:19 PM by Delano
For most demographics purposes, Irish and Italians are lumped in as "white". You can take the issue up with the demographers, not me.

Hell, I used to get bullied for being a gringo kid in a mostly Mexican-American school...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:37 PM
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44. That's fine
But in this instance, were you not being a demographer? And as such, I was taking it up with you. It's all good though. :toast:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:27 PM
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47. Hispanic is white?
Sammy Sosa or Celia Cruz, anyone?

Homework assignment: Rent the Buena Vista Social Club.

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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:13 PM
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62. It is crazy, isn't it?
eom
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:28 PM
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9. French Honky
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:31 PM
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11. Just like I fill out the Census
I check other and write in AMERICAN, DAMMIT!!


ethnicity

n : an ethnic quality or affiliation resulting from racial or cultural ties; "ethnicity has a strong influence on community status relations"
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:31 PM
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12. Blacko-American, here!
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 02:32 PM by Kahuna
:hi:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:32 PM
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13. Ethnically American
My parents come from America. My grandparents come from America. My great grandparents come from and were buried in America. Everyone that I'm related to is fully American by blood. What else do you want? How far back should I go?

I suppose I had some ancestors who were from Europe, though I don't know of any. Certainly they had ancestors who came from Asia. So I'm as much an Asian as a European. Of course before I had ancestors who came from Africa... as did all of us. So I'm of African ancestry, too. Saying what what you are based on what your ancestry is pretty unreliable and subjective. How many generations should we go back? What's the cut off point?

Ferget it. I'm an American.
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NeonLX Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:36 PM
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14. Yup.
We're all African, if you go back far enough.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:51 PM
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23. Nope
Pangean.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:21 PM
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68. monkeys n/t
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:54 PM
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26. American, but other "Americans" tend to disagree

BORN IN THE USA BEYOTCH!!!

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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:37 PM
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15. The main reason I'm asking...
Is that someone earlier asked if there were "any white people here".

I was pretty sure they were the majority, but it's interesting to get a sampling.

Just judging from the issues that get the most play here, it's pretty evident that most posters are white, IMO.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:38 PM
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16. I like the Kentucky Derby, myself.
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Cadfael Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:42 PM
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17. I'm partial to the Indy 500
:silly:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:42 PM
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18. "Race" does not exist as a science fact - do you mean skin color?
Or village/area associated with home - as in house growing up -culture?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:45 PM
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19. There is only one race
I think you mean ethnicity.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:47 PM
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20. That's easy.
Daytona 500. :)
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:47 PM
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21. There is one race. "Ethnic backround" is what you're looking for.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:48 PM
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52. ACK!
First I put "ethnicity" and someone corrected me that it's "race".

I put "race" and now you correct me

Sometime it's so annoying to be a liberal!

Fine. What "ethraceity" are you?

:spank:
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:48 PM
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22. White liberals love to say they have no race, or are of the human race, or
they are just plain old "Americans". That is because they have the benefit of being white and not having to deal with the harsh realities of racism being thrust upon them because of their skin color.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:53 PM
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25. sociologists and scientists have long since said there is only one race
That doesn't mean there is no racism. Racism as a word is not outdated but still the best one we have for explaining the practice of marginalizing and exploiting certain ethnic groups.

But I do have to say that your statement is crap. Liberal have no problem dealing with the reality of racism. Way to turn people off and keep them divided. Is that your purpose?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:02 PM
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31. dominat white male cultural paradigm
is a term i learned from a professor.
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:08 PM
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36. Gee, you got me
I disagree with you, so obviously I am a right-wing disruptor. Obviously not all white liberals have a problem dealing with the reality of racism, but it has been my experience both at DU and in the real world that many do. And I will continue to challenge that and other viewpoints I disagree with no matter how many times you insinuate I'm a closet Naderite or undercover Freeper. See you later.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:15 PM
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38. "isms" aren't confided to one party
or to one pole of the political continuum. there are "liberal" men who are sexist, for example.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:05 PM
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55. "Liberal men who are sexist"
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 05:06 PM by prolesunited
Naaaah! Do you think some of them might even post on DU? :eyes: <-- On edit: Clearly, not directed at you, but the sexist, "liberal" men.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:11 PM
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58. LOL
i know...it's an impossibility :eyes:
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:28 PM
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70. That's just not true, on either count.
While most sociologists concur that race is not a biological fact, it is a social fact.

And race is a controversial concept in biology. While it is true that many -- perhaps most -- biologists have abandoned it, there are still a few holders-on.

Now, I feel that the holders-on are completely wrong and that "race" is biologically meaningless. However, it's harmful for us to pretend that there aren't still influential professionals -- Vincent Sarich, James Crow, and Ernst Mayr, to name a few -- who still hold that it isn't.

Why is it harmful? Because it encourages us to adopt the view that science is value-neutral. It isn't. It exists in the context of society, just like everything else -- and should be held to just as much public scrutiny.

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:59 PM
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27. perhaps the questions should be
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 02:59 PM by noiretblu
given that race, as we commonly refer to it, is a social construct...

would you have use a "white" or a "colored" water fountain if jim crow ws the law of the land today? are you a target anti-immigrant policies (and discrimination) aimed at curbing mexican/central american immigration? was to the currect crop of anti-arab sentiment, could you be a victim of it? if we go to war with japan tomorrow, would you be subject to internment (if the powers that be decided it was a good idea...again)?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:59 PM
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28. Totally, especially the rich suburban ones
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 03:00 PM by Independent429
Sometimes I wonder if white liberals are as bad as white conservatives (KKK/skinhead types). Not many whites have been called (n-word) and told to go back where they came from, and certainly not on a daily basis while growing up.

on edit: some liberal DUers can't handle the n word
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:00 PM
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30. racism is more accpectable on the right
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 03:01 PM by noiretblu
but it certainly exists on the left. i have stories :hi:
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:08 PM
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35. oh, and i thought all this time...
i was being clever, maybe even (god forbid) progressive, but it ends up i'm just being an elitist, naive prick.

mea culpa.
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:10 PM
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57. Uhhhh...
Definitely not a prick and probably not even elitist, but, yes, maybe a little naive. Sorry, I know saying stuff like that can be personally insulting, but I think it needs to be said nevertheless.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:18 PM
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65. Well said.
Race isn't a biological fact, but it is a social one.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:20 PM
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67. Probably most
but not all white liberals behave as you suggest. I commend you for bringing this up.

There are also a few minorities who claim to "just be human". I am not one of them - I'm Raza till I die. I have simply had it confirmed too many times that I am not treated as a white person would be.
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:44 PM
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72. This is for La Raza-- Kid Frost. nt
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:51 PM
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24. are you sending these results to Ashcroft?
You should have put a "Intellectual Liberal Douche" race to quiet some of these critics.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:23 PM
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41. Ashcroft doesn't need this survey...
His all-seeing eye knows all!


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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:00 PM
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29. human.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:12 PM
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61. I am human also
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:04 PM
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32. White
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:06 PM
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33. I'm not biting...
...You want to lump me in with some cat from Minnesota or Idaho who's never tasted fresh Gulf shrimp and grits or seafood gumbo or collards and cornbread; who's never known a Christmas Day with the air conditioner running full blast; who's never heard the words "cattywhompus" or "fixin' to" used in conversation; someone who's never known what it's like to live in the oppressive atmosphere that gave birth to the blues; someone who's never had to come to terms with Mardi Gras; someone who's never seen a barn with "See Rock City" gleaming from it's roof; someone who's never cautiously monitored the Gulf during "hurricane season;" or been immersed in the combined sociology, theology, political science and pure feudalism of the Southern collegiate football cults?

And just because we share a lack of melanin?

Don't think so.

When you come up with "Late 20th Century, Southeastern American Creole Male of Non-Color," then I'll have a box to check.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:08 PM
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45. You make me proud
You are my coonass neighbor. Well said.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:14 PM
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37. I don't understand your 2 hispanic choices. I think that those aren't the
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 03:19 PM by Bombtrack
choices that make up the hispanic people as I believe they overlap. I think Mulatto, Mestizo, and Hispanic-white would make more sense. Maybe I'm wrong. Look at this

Main Entry: La·ti·no
Pronunciation: l&-'tE-(")nO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nos
Etymology: American Spanish, probably short for latinoamericano Latin American
Date: 1946
1 : a native or inhabitant of Latin America
2 : a person of Latin-American origin living in the U.S.

Mexico is part of Latin America. Mexican's are Latino's. And Chicano's are just Mexican's, who could be of any of those 3 actual ancestral and anthropoligical categories, Mulatto, Mestizo, or hispanic-white.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:28 PM
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43. When I lived in Texas and So. Cal...
Most Mexicans seemed to prefer either "Mexican, Mexican-American", or "Chicano".

In Miami, the Cubans and Argentinians seemed to like "Latin" or "Latino", occasionally, "Hispanic"

It's too late to edit the poll, but the implication of "Latino" was meant to be "white Hispanic", and the other would be inclusive of the various Spanish-speaking Mestizo groups.

You can picck one of those or put "other".

It's not meant to be a super-scientific survey, just a rough snapshot.
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:20 PM
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40. I am human
Any extraterrestrials here tonight?
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:23 PM
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42. Human
Anything other than that is irrelevant.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:14 PM
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46. Klingon.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:29 PM
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48. How can we Carolinians answer if you leave out NASCAR? eom
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:43 PM
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49. Well, some of my people came over on the Mayflower and some
of my people met the boat when it pulled in to shore.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:20 PM
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66. Some of my people rocked the boat and others just missed it. eom
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:01 PM
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53. NASCAR is a fine race
especially the Daytona 500, but I prefer the Indy 500 myself. Those Indy cars just look and sound so ... racial!
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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:44 PM
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50. HUMAN just like you
n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 04:46 PM
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51. Mixed Hispanic / White
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 04:48 PM by redqueen
And not that you care but the "White" part is mostly Irish & German, with a recent dash of American Indian.

And I really don't get all the hostility towards the question.

I thought we were supposed to be proud of our heritage.

:wtf:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:12 PM
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60. some liberals are not proud of their heritage
I'm 100% east Indian and 100% human. And extremely proud of it!

But I think most people who answer other, don't care to anwser, or say human, really mean that they are lily white liberals and are ashamed of it. Maybe they feel guilty for their ancestors' crimes against darkies like me or something. I'm 0% white but think it's great when people are proud of being Irish or Italian or French (hehe traitors hehe) or whatever.

I firmly believe that your ethnicity/race/religion/gender is part of who you are and you should be proud of who are, not ashamed.

and i'm a little drunk
cheers!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:05 PM
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54. I got really pissed one time
When a server at a restaraunt asked my "what" my son was. My reply, he's a little boy. I find myself happy that people can't tell his ethnicity hence, he has always been accepted by all races. He's black enough to be accepted by blacks yet he's brown enough to be accepted by hispanic or arab people. Then again he's white enough to be accepted by whites. All I really know is that he's going to be a handsome young man and I'm gonna have to stand on the front porch with a baseball bat to keep the girls off him. Sometimes I think that people should be required to find partners outside of their ethnicities. Racism wouldn't be possible if no one could determine any obvious differences.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:05 PM
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56. My race has always been the 5000 meter.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:11 PM
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59. I almost wrote...
..."the 60 yd intermediate hurdles, but I was mostly a long & triple jumper."
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:14 PM
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63. 100 meter dash
and 25 meter butterfly (swimming) for me! Yep, i'm of the short sprint race.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 08:21 AM
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73. Unlike me, you and misanthrope must be blessed with
plenty of fast twitch muscle fiber!
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:15 PM
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64. White boy can't jump. thats me.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:22 PM
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69. Wherever Schumi be at!
GO MICHA!!!!
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 05:33 PM
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71. WASP
WASP, WASP and more WASP. English, Welsh, Scots and Scot-Irish.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 08:23 AM
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74. Human.
Same goes for most everybody else, anthropologically speaking.

One more thing: People are "Flesh-colored."
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