GW said: we werenÕt awares LOL!!!!!!!

[soundfury]

Boy did I laugh when I heard that in the movie.

But then I thought, This guy graduated from Harvard and Yale!!!

What does that say about Harvard and Yale?

What does it say about the system of meritocracy our country is supposedly based on?

Very disturbing indeed.

The way Bush speaks, can you imagine what a nightmare his professors had grading
his written papers? That is if he wrote any himself.

How he graduated from those Ivy league schools is beyond me.

It must be some kind of underground Affirmative Action system for the rich and well connected.

That must be it. ;-)

[Kathy in Cambridge]

1. He paid someone to write his papers and take his tests

that's what people like Bush do. They cheat.

2. At the University of Chicago --

we used to say "If you're good enough to get into Harvard, you're good enough to graduate from Harvard," referring to undergrad.

I said that to a Harvard grad once (without telling him the Chicago part) and he started arguing with me about it until I told him we said that at U.C. Then he started laughing and said I had a point.

We always thought Yale was different.

You've got it exactly right, it is underground Affirmative Action.

[Tosca]

4. Hee hee.

I like the 4-minute Harvard man joke.

Within 4 minutes of meeting him, he'll tell you he went to Harvard.

[Divernan]

3. He was admitted to Yale as a "legacy"

, i.e., his dad had gone there AND given bucks to the school,and his name was on all his exams so the faculty gave him what used to be called a gentleman's "C". One of his Harvard MBA instructors commented that Bush had a short attention span and couldn't respond coherently in class (or words to that effect), and asked Bush, how did you get in here? Bush smirked and said, My Daddy has a lot of friends.

Most Yale and Harvard grads are NOT legacies and were not admitted because of their fathers' influence. They (like Bill and Hillary Clinton) got admitted on their brains and their hard work, and are extremely bright. Remember Chaney had no connections back then and washed out of Yale as an undergrad.

[salin]

5. Here is the big clue...

he graduates from Yale

and can't get accepted into the University of Texas law school

So - he goes to grad school where there are more family connections and pull - but suddenly he goes for an MBA instead of the law school. So why the switch in fields? Perhaps Harvard Law isn't quite so lax per legacies?

[Divernan]

9. No. All law schools have anonymous grading on exams.

It's the same at Harvard as at Texas. Every semester, students are randomly assigned a number to put on their exams, instead of their names. So the professors can't be pressured (consciously or unconsciously) to give better grades to kids of VIPS/big donors/ alumni. However, the MBA program let him coast through on his last name.

[salin]

11. Ah... so even if he got the big donor "in" to harvard law

which he couldn't get at UT (no admissions)... he wouldn't have been able to get through Harvard Law. Very good point... so the switch (after being turned down at UT LAW) could have been the recognition on his own (or on those counseling him) that he wouldn't get to coast through as he had at Andover and Yale... hence the shift from law to business. Makes sense.

[noiretextatique]

6. i ask about this when people claim you have to speak standard english

to get ahead in america.

[DebJ]

8. no, you have to have the right daddy.

[fob]

7. In this case, he actually got it correct, which leads me to believe

it was a mistake on his part.

I don't recall the exact sentence but the word used was 'unawares' and it was used correctly(Not to mean that he wasn't lying, just the grammar was correct). The audience laughed in the theater I saw it with at that point too, but because it "sounds" funny or incorrect, doesn't mean it was.

Damn, I can't believe I did that. I feel reeeeaaaaalllll dirty. Bllleeeccchhhh.

[Divernan]

10. Just today he said "civility" when he meant "security"

He was reading (of course) his statement about the turnover of power. He said the United States will remain in Iraq as long as CIVILITY requires it. I guess you could say we're not going to kill and run, but take enough time to leave with good manners.

Have you noticed the insulting delivery of his comments. He speaks in an insulting manner with little words, as if he was addressing a very sloooooowwww audience. Then I realized that he's just parroting the way his advisers speak to him!

[WoodrowFan]

12. didn't his MBA prof

say he would have flunked him but he couldn't so he gave him Cs.