vi5
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:06 PM
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Fineman "F911 removed from historical context..." |
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He wasn't trashing the movie per se (on Hardball) but said much of what was in it was removed from it's historical context?
Huh?
O.K. then, put it in context for us. By all means, do so. Why where the Saudi's and Bin Laden's allowed to fly out? Nobody has explained that yet.
Why does the Secret Service protect (at taxpayer expense) the Saudi Embassy?
Why was James Bath's name blacked out post 2001?
Did Bush Sr. NOT serve on the board of Carlysle with Bin Laden?
Did that woman NOT lose her son in the war?
I mean honestly. What is the historical context that is missing from this stuff?
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:08 PM
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1. Michael Moore is so FAT! There's your context! |
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Sorry, I was in Freeper mode there again.
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Nite Owl
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:11 PM
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2. I think he was trying to use the |
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administration line that since 9-11 everything has changed. That's all I could possibly think that he meant. Not that that makes one bit of sense. It actually puts the facts 'in' context because it shows how much we have let terrorism win by our lose of rights. Notice how they never say just what isn't truthful or factual. They can't.
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:19 PM
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9. And what is the context of * taking vacation pre-911 when |
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eveyone was running around with their hair on Fire?
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Eloriel
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:12 PM
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3. Boy, if that's the best he can come up with..... |
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he's screwed. And it makes me think he's trying to come up with some mental gymnastics that work on HIMSELF. Good luck, Howie, you pathetic fool.
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:12 PM
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4. Going on vacation the entire month of August 2001 is not out of context |
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sitting in that friggin' classroom for 7+ minutes is not out of historical context!
If he is getting his talking points from KKKarl, KKKarl is Cheneyed up!
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PATRICK
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:15 PM
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5. Rationalizations as context? |
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These guys need a shrink. It is their own rationalizations and acceptance of dangerous, bloody rationalizations for this blatantly unjust war that is the context they not, cannot face if they are to go to bed saying "Fineman, you are a fine man after all."
See a shrink and then come back and tell me about your judgment of objective reality. Moore's perceptions and editing ARE there. Where was the astute career journalist when the conscience of a nation was blinded and rushed to murder for profit? Cheerleading, obfuscating, making excuses,attacking dissenters, attacking the facts, lying like storm troopers- for context.
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:17 PM
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6. Repukes love that "context" thingy |
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It's like when you were a kid and you could lie if you had your fingers crossed behind your back.
No explanation needed. :-)
It's just a fucking magical excuse.
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:18 PM
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7. He meant that Michael didn't take a minute to say the required |
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"Saddamwasabadmanhegassed&torturedhisownpeople"
Therefore, prepare to be skewered,Michael, no matter how truthful everything else is.
I wish he had put something like that in. It would have easily snatched away a RW talking point that is very annoying.
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:19 PM
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8. Much of that "context" was created BY the Republicans! |
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That was one of Michael Moore's points -- the use of scare tactics to keep build and maintain support for the Patriot Act, the war in Iraq, etc.
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:19 PM
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10. Serious question: Is the press on drugs too? |
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Do they take the same drug, Ambien(?), that Colin Powell said the entire mis-administration took? Sure would explain THEIR cognitive dissonance - wouldn't it?
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:20 PM
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11. i only saw a piece, but see a pattern of media |
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that is irritating the shit out of me. they tell me who i am and why i watch the movie and what i think and they are off once again and dont know jack shit presenting it to the world as fact
acting like i am a friggin follower of moore. acting like i am an extremist and that is the only reason i have interest in this movie. let the media get someone on tv and talk about this movie that have known this shit for months and havent heard it on tv at all. let them be told that finally the other side is being put out cause the media only presented ONE side of the story. and the only way the other side can be heard is certainly not on media, (this being a perfect example) so the left now has to resort to making movies
anyone else getting pissed
oooooosh........i feel better, lol lol
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:34 PM
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12. You've summed it up well. |
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The media is complicit in every crime of the Bush* administration. So, they can't allow any notion that Moore is even partially right. He's got to be an "extremist".
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:29 PM
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In all fairness Howard F. admitted the movie was powerful. I could tell he knows it is impacting people. He's one of those guys that as soon he smells a little blood in the water he changes sides. a true flip flopper- like Tweety.
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Mon Jun-28-04 07:34 PM
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13. Because shut up! That's why! |
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:33 PM
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15. Moore didn't put it in split-screen form with the Clenis. |
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That is your historical context.
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:45 PM
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16. I think Fineman said F-9/11's truth was removed from |
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Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 09:17 PM by stickdog
his whore & tell complex.
Well, at least that's what I heard ...
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