sorry if this is a dupe....flight 93 shot down....

[Slit Skirt]

http://letsroll911.org/articles/flight93shotdown.html



LetsRoll911.org has discovered that Fight 93 was definitely shot down.

LetsRoll has discovered the name of the pilot as well as all other pertinent information regarding this incident;

"At precisely 0938 hours, an alarm was sounded at Langely Air Force Base, and those whom were on call, drinking coffee, were scrambled. Thus the 119th Fighter Wing was off for an intercept.

They, the Happy Hooligans, a unit of 3 F-16 aircraft, were ordered to head toward Pennsylvania. At 0957 they spotted their target; After confirmation orders were received, A one Major Rick Gibney fired two sidewinder missiles at the aircraft and destroyed it in mid flight at precisely 0958;

[whistle]

1. Is this article/report a hoax?

[Slit Skirt]

3. no ...I heard it on the radio this AM

...i didn't catch it all...except that this officer, who has named the pilot, has always claimed that it was shot down but until now would not give out the name...

[Wonk]

2. Why yes, yes it is... re: dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1880734&mesg_id=1880734

[T Town Jake]

4. Uh...*ahem*...this isn't exactly...

...CNN or the New York Times you've linked to here for confirmation of this claim. Is there a secondary confirmation for this story from a legitimate news-gathering organization somewhere?

[Slit Skirt]

5. point taken,.....

however, that's why I am putting it out there.....
...and also, maybe it will start to peel layers off of the conspiracy...
and who claims NYT or CNN reports the truth.......particularly when it comes to THIS SUBJECT MATTER.

[malatesta1137]

6. which makes the source

much more believable. of course 93 was shot down, the engine was found miles away from the crash scene, that would never had happened if the plane had just slammed into the ground.

the missile that hit it was the same that hit TWA 800, a heat-seeking missile.

please don't expect CNN or NYTimes to report the truth, EVER.

*edited for spelling

[Slit Skirt]

7. maybe with naming the pilot.....

we can get some answers......well, I won't hold my breath...but maybe.....

[T Town Jake]

9. "of course 93 was shot down"....Link please...

...and to a mainstream news source, thank-you. Until that standard of credibility for this claim is reached, the vast majority of people are simply going to dismiss this as "X-files"-type speculations. And I'm one of them.

[Slit Skirt]

11. once you start looking at the evidence

...there is no other conclusion you can walk away with....waiting for the media to report that this administration is distorting facts and deceiving Americans ...is like....having them admit they were all wrong on wmd...that they are cheerleaders and not reporters........in other words...it ain't gonna happen ..so if you want the truth...you have to start looking for yourself....the media will not come through for you on this..

[T Town Jake]

12. Gosh, I guess that settles it then! Since...

..."there is no other conclusion" I can "walk away with" -despite no link to a legitimate, mainstream news source; and despite the fact that the site you do link to is chock-full of numerous other loony conspiracy mutterings that would make the grassy knoll crowd blush; and despite the fact that there is a banner on the site in question which asserts that there is "no choice" when it comes to voting for either George Bush or John Kerry - I'll give up questioning this iron-clad factual resource you've provided as proof-positive of this incredible claim...<snicker>...

</Sarcasm>

[malatesta1137]

15. what do you call

'legitimate, mainstream news source'? NYT, CNN?

you've been lied to and brainwashed by these sources so many times, you can't think for yourself anymore.

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[TomNickell]

24. No, it was not obvious.

And still isn't.

What planet are YOU on?

Planet Conspiracoid?

[malatesta1137]

14. I feel sorry

for the one who depends on or trusts the 'mainstream media'.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

8. How about the UK-Mirror?....

<http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12192317&method=full&siteid=50143>

....or this site which compiles quite a bit of information from a wide variety of sources:

<http://www.flight93crash.com/index.html>

[Slit Skirt]

10. there are a lot of sites

that discuss this....i think the evidence is quite compelling...but of course with the government we will really never know until something like this(identifying and talking with the pilot)comes to light.

here is a ton of links
http://www.septembereleventh.org/links.php

[sffreeways]

17. legitimate news-gathering organization

Does such a thing exist ?

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[TexasSissy]

16. This is silly. Anyone see the 9/11 Commission hearings on this?

It would require a major conspiracy involving the FAA, the military, relatives of passengers of Flight 93 (who had cell phone conversations with relatives on the flight). And to what end? When there are so many other things to cover up.

The pilots never even rec'd the "shoot down" orders.

[Slit Skirt]

19. 9/11 is a whitewash commission

..they are the second installment of the con....
any altercations between commission and administration are staged...
...if not they would be looking at real evidence....
like an 8 mile wide debris field....
or original transcripts that firefighters describe as bombs going off in the towers
and why did the FBI within minutes after the pentagon "crash" grab video tapes from cameras in the area...people are dead, mass confusion, not knowing whether another attack is coming....and they're worried about video tapes....

or explain why dubya had surface to air missiles on his hotel and awacs airplanes flying overhead on the eve of 9/11.......
yah right......they didn't know.....

3000 people died...they better come up with something better than "major system failures"

[WoodrowFan]

20. WHAT?

you'd believe a bipartisan commission doing thousands and thousands of hours of research over a WEBSITE with loony conpiracy theories?! I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!


I bet if Letsroll911 said Bigfoot reached up and grabbed the plane and they it to the ground several posters here would believe it and call you a fool for no doing so.

[Slit Skirt]

22. you know...it's a little hard to take you seriously...

please wake up, get informed, ..there are hundreds of websites out there...and they have done their homework...
the commission is no way in HELL bipartisan.....firstly they're appointed by the very administration that they are investigating...
c'mon that should be your first hint.....secondly, I couln't say all of them...but many have ties to this administration....a true bipartisan commission should have been appointed by Congress.....and maybe even then the truth would be hard to come by....

[TomNickell]

25. No, it's hard to take....

YOU conspiracy hobbyists seriously.

Get real.

[Slit Skirt]

28. peace

[Guaranteed]

21. This is the kind of thing people are willing to keep quiet about.

In fact, I understand (although I don't agree with) the fact that they've covered this up. Especially right after 9/11- people didn't need to hear that we had to shoot down one of our own planes when they already had so much tragedy to deal with.

At this point, though, I think people should know the truth.

[TomNickell]

27. They keep quiet about it if.....

they don't want people to think they are idiots.

[Realityhack]

23. You have got to be kidding...

Look I am not going to say it wasn't shot down. I admit to not knowing...

But you have to be freeking kidding if you think letsroll911 is a credible source, or that it this artical is going to convince anyone with two brain cells to rub together of anything.

For anyone who hasn't yet click to their home page and take a look.

RH

[TomNickell]

26. ROFLMAO!! You are definitely kidding....

Any non-Conspiracy Hobbyists tempted to take this seriously, go back to the Home page.

Military Cargo plane hit twin towers!!!!!!
Rocket Pods under wings of Military Cargo Plane!!!!!!
Developing!!!!!!

And, yes, it's a Dupe. Saw this Bullshit this AM. The thread probably went to 160 posts as the Conspiracy Hobbyist congratulated each other on their superior intelligence.