Question About Lila Lipscomb in F9/11

[liberalpragmatist]

Did Moore know her before her son's death? If so, how? That's all that confused me. Did he know her before from the unemployment office and then found her after her son died? Or were all the scenes with her filmed after her son died?

The USAToday article about Lipsomb implied that Moore only met her after her son died:

> http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2004-06-28-fahrenheit-lipscomb_x.htm

*Although Lipscomb and her husband, Howard, are both longtime Flint residents, they knew little of Moore, who was raised in nearby Davison and had made Flint a focal point in 1989's Roger & Me and 2002's Bowling for Columbine. A Moore staffer contacted Lipscomb after learning of her son's death.*

Anybody clear on this?

[Columbia]

1. He contacted her through MFSO

n/t

[liberalpragmatist]

2. what?

what's mfso?

[Columbia]

4. Military Families Speak Out

It's an anti-war group for military families.

[liberalpragmatist]

6. Ok, but when?

That's the question -time frame.

[Proud_Lefty]

3. Even if he asked her to recreate who

she was before the death of her son came about, it's still authentic in my book. Every day we've been at war, I've imagined the very things I saw in this film. This is the pain a parent feels, whether the introduction had to be recreated or not. I don't doubt that for a second.

[liberalpragmatist]

5. Oh, I'm not questioning that

I don't think he used her innappropriately at all. That's clear from what she herself has said.

I'm just curious about what the timeframe was, that's all.

[jobycom]

8. I never got the idea that she was interviewed before his death

Moore never implied that the earlier scenes with her were before the son's death.

[LTR]

7. From what I understand from the USA Today article...

He had never met her prior to making the film. And although they are both from the Flint area, she was not very familiar with him.

He worked closely with her on her parts in the movie, and allowed her to veto anything that might be objectionable to her. She's seen the movie several times and seems very pleased with it.

That she worked as an employment counselor was a bonus, I guess.

Amazing how everything comes back to Flint and the state of Michigan in his movies. I guess it's a constant metaphor in his movies for all that's wrong in the world. Michigan played a huge part in B4C.

[Enraged_Ape]

10. For Moore, Flint is a microcosm of the RW fuckover of America

It is, of course, the central focus of his first big documentary, "Roger and Me".

[chascarrillo]

9. I caught this on my second viewing...

During the first clip with her in it, she mentions a statistic from early 2004.

[enough]

11. Some of the early reviewers

seemed to have the impression that the earlier scenes were shot before she knew of her son's death. But the movie itself does not imply that.