Did I Hear Lisa Myers Correctly?

[louis c]

I just awakened, and had MSNBC on (No Imus, he's on vacation), and she was talking about the the NATO resolution that The Idiot President hailed as a diplomatic triumph.

Did she say that at least France and Germany, and maybe other NATO countries would train Iraqi police and soldiers, but they would not send their people to Iraq, that the Iraqi's would have to go to their countries?

This is unbelievable. In my line of work, which involves negotiating between management and the employees I represent, we call this "an empty box". By our own estimates,over 200,000 Iraqi security personal have to trained. This is the silliest thing I have heard about this war in a long time. If this is the case, They are just making the Idiot president look even more foolish.

I'm almost feeling bad for Bush. What NATO is doing almost amounts to taunting him. It's like watching the smarter older boys ridiculing one of the special needs children in the school playground.

[Trajan]

1. Lisa Myers is an unabashed GOP sycophant ...

[LittleApple81]

5. But she cannot be as bad as that Imus thing...this guy probably died some

time ago and nobody noticed.

[louis c]

8. Imus is voting Kerry

and his wife, according to Imus, has a T-shirt which reads "My bush is smarter than George Bush".

Add to that he is an employee of Infinity, which is being harassed over the Howard Stern thing, and that Kerry feels comfortable to do interviews with him, and I say the I-man is O.K.

It was on his show, in fact, that Kerry debunked the phony intern story. If Kerry felt comfortable enough to trust him under those circumstances, I'll trust him for Humor and some news.

[LittleApple81]

9. But he looks out of it. I cannot stand listening/looking at him. n/t

[louis c]

14. *

[trumad]

2. Yes that is true

which is amazing since Myers said it...

[LittleApple81]

3. They will transport 200,000 Iraqis to Europe for training? Who is paying

for this? And the equipment? training without equipment does not work either. Sounds weird to me.

[DeaconBlues]

10. Who's paying? You are!

The sound you are hearing is all your tax dollars being sucked up by another SNAFU brought to you by the party of fiscal responsibility.

[louis c]

11. No one is going anywhere

They are making sport of the Idiot. Do you think for one minute that they are going to deploy this kind of men and material to "train". Maybe they will train a handful of senior Iraqi officers that will have to go back and train their own soldiers, Like I said, it's an empty box. It is a resolution with absolutely no substance.

[sundancekid]

15. absolutely right IMHO ... it's like giving away the sleeves to your vest,

but I really like your "empty box" expression ... the fuller picture also showed dimson at his worst sophomoric "passing notes" and "talking out of turn in class" with Blair while NOT listening to the NATO proceedings and leaving Powell (you remember, the SecState Dept that will be taking over Iraq from its palace, er, embassy) uninformed, out of chimp's whispering campaign, and looking damn near totally ignored. Dimson has not even the slightest clue about how much he has underestimated the intelligence and common sense of the rest of the world ... the foreign press clearly reported that the "early" turnover came in major part because, in fact, NATO would not deal with dimson (even if only symbolically) about offering some nominal empty box but ONLY to Iraq representatives and NOT if the US had not done the "handover" -- imagine that, rove can't FIX those images and realities; NATO knew it, and told the chimpsters to go Cheney themselves.

[merh]

20. But when told of an attack on America - he remains

"calm as to not alarm the children" (:puke:) -- those 2 images need to be played side by side. Any video gurus available, I would love that one.

[ixion]

4. yeah, except that 'special needs' kid has committed war crimes

and has proven he is nothing more than a thug at heart.

It comes as no great shock that NATO is messing with his head. He has been an arrogant a** to them in the past... what would you expect?

[kentuck]

6. Yes, France and Germany will teach them how to be "pro-American"...

and to disregard the French interests....:)

[teryang]

7. Chimp would agree to any terms

...no matter how onerous in order to use the NATO brand label. They are desperate.

The ironic thing is that this will create a new security risk. Many of these trainees will be resistance sympathizers.

[underpants]

12. No surprise NPR had the detainee architect on claiming victory yesterday

I forgot his name but he wrote the legal opinions that gave W position above the law and ignored the Geneva conventions. He was claiming that the Supreme Court rulings a WIN for W-see they affirmed that you could hold detainees.

[tandot]

13. I wouldn't send my people to die for Bush...

They were against that war from the beginning. And as we now know, they were right.

Bush screwed us and Iraq. Our soldiers and innocent people are dying on a daily basis because of his lies and incompetence. Why should a country who had enough sense to say NO to this war send their soldiers to die? They are kind enough to offer to train Iraqis.

If you break it, you own it. Blame the media and all those politicians who were gullible enough to go along. And this includes Kerry. He voted for that war and has to deal with it.

I don't feel bad for Bush. Fuck him. I feel bad for all the innocent Iraqis who still suffer the consequences, and all the families of those soldiers who still are dying for a war that was completely unnecessary.

[louis c]

19. I really don't feel bad

for Bush, I said "almost". You're correct, fuck him.

Where I come from, the worst insult you can ascribe to a person is that he or she is pathetic. That's what that Moron is, pathetic.

[readmylips]

16. Involuntary Draft....per Reuters.com

The U.S. Army is planning an involuntary mobilization of thousands of reserve troops to maintain adequate force levels in Iraq and Afghanistan, defense officials said on Monday.

The move -- involving the seldom-tapped Individual Ready Reserve -- represents the latest evidence of the strain being placed on the U.S. military, particularly the Army, by operations in those two countries.

Roughly 5,600 soldiers from the ready reserve will be notified of possible deployment this year, including some soldiers who will be notified within a month, said an Army official speaking on condition of anonymity. "These individuals are being called back to fill specific shortages for specific jobs." Individual Ready Reserve, mainly made up of soldiers who have completed their active duty obligations, was mobilized in any significant numbers was during the 1991 Gulf War.

Army officials are in the process of briefing members of Congress on the mobilization and plan a formal announcement on Wednesday.

The Army official said the mobilization "will be through the rest of the year. Some could be within a month." It would be an involuntary measure, an involuntary mobilization.. "It's approximately 5,600."

"We're not calling up units, we're just using all the existing assets in theater and we're augmenting those assets with these individuals -- various occupational specialties, various different types of officers running the whole gamut," the Army official said.

.... military police and civil affairs personnel were among the specialties involved.

The defense official said that while soldiers in the Individual Ready Reserve have served their voluntary obligation in the Army they still can be mobilized involuntarily for several years after returning to civilian life. Continued ...

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That Army Official must be that Pentagon spook leader Donald Rumfuck. Military and civil affairs personnel being called, means bush got shit from NATO. Reservists that have already served their obligations are mostly in their 30's, married with children. I feel for their soon to be 'orphant children.'

[Jim__]

17. It's more like bush is ridiculing the American people

Yesterday, on most of the news I heard (radio news) the agreement with NATO was reported as a major triumph for Bush - the UN and NATO have come around to bush's way of thinking. If this agreement is a sham, and the media are not reporting it as such; that's just more evidence that the media are really just an RW echo chamber.

[Bandit]

18. In 1970 when we were in process of turning Vietnam over to Vietnamese

We did a great deal of training in the US of Vietnamese Pilots and Rangers. I happened to be stationed at Fort Stewart GA in early 1970 and that was my job. Training Vietnamese Officers as Pilots and Leaders. I ran an escape and evasion course there. Did you know there is not a single animal on the face of the earth that is not edible? Preparation is often a major factor but all are edible. Also ninty-five percent of all plant life is edible.