Michael Moore Linked to Carlyle Group

[southernleftylady]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/27/120331.shtml
So whats going on with this?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

1. Newsmax is a RW news source that frequently lies

how can you take them seriously?

[russian33]

2. This is Newmax and they are quoting NY Post...

...not exactly fair and balanced news...

[PROGRESSIVE1]

3. "Newsmax"??? You know it's the MORE EXTREME Version....

of Newsweek!

I DON'T trust either one!

[Cocoa]

4. did you read it?

did you see how stupid the "link" is?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

9. This is the dumbest shit they've come up with yet.

I'll probably be saying the same thing next week. They always find a way to outdo themselves.

[Cats Against Frist]

5. They just bought it the other day

was it a coincidence? I don't know, but it stinks of something.

[Kool Kitty]

16. Please.

You're kidding, right?

[Cats Against Frist]

32. I'm not talking about Moore stinking!

I'm talking about Carlyle stinking. I would never believe anything that Newsmax puts out -- I heard Carlyle bought it from a different source. Give me a little credit....:)

[Kool Kitty]

47. Sorry, I misunderstood your post.

I think that the buyout was in the works for a while. And Carlyle does stink, for a million reasons. (And I love your name, by the way.) ;-)

[bluestateguy]

We generally don't treat Newsmax at a legit source here

You're new here so I'll just tell you that we don't take Newsmax seriously.

[Connie_Corleone]

6. Loews Cinemas

From what I see, it's just about Loews being bought by the Carlyle Group and F911 is being shown in their theatres.

Newsmax is trash.

[matcom]

7. So whats going on with YOU?

its Newsmax :eyes:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

59. Indeed....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1885779

[DenverDem]

8. The deal with Lowes to show the film was made before Carlyle bought it.

You believe Bath on what money went into Arbusto?

Plus, it's newsmax, total con disinfo.

[catzies]

10. Rubbish. They're trying to say that since Carlyle bought Loews,

and since Loews is showing F911 = Moore is taking $$ from Carlyle!

Carlyle bought Loews a week ago and it was probably in the works before F911 came out. Moreover, Moore doesn't actively choose what theatre chains show his films. Nor does any other moviemaker I bet.

That's what passes for logic on their side. it's all complete bullCheney.

[returnable]

11. Did you even read it?

Carlyle just bought the Loews theater chain.

Some Loews theaters happen to be showing Moore's film (which, by the way, they contracted to do BEFORE Carlyle bought the franchise).

Wow. That's some "connection."

Way to go, Newsmax. :eyes:

[southernleftylady]

14. Hey I am new to this board and a rightie on another board I posted .

linked to this site .. I knew yall would give me something to say in return :) thanks for the info

[kikiek]

30. Straighten them out on when daddy left Carlyle stayed 2 years after 9/11

[returnable]

49. No problem!

Didn't mean to harsh on you - just Newsmax :)

And welcome to DU :hi:

[Carni]

21. I think it's hilarious!

A film being shown bashing Carlyle at Carlyle owned theatres
(and they couldn't pull the film after they bought Loews because it would have sent up red flags and further proved Moore's point LOL!)

[ET Awful]

12. Just another hunk of right wing pig feces.

Trying to say Moore is connected to Carlyle by viture of Loews theaters is like saying that the kid who sells popcorn at Loews theaters works for Carlyle. . . it's complete bullshit.

[jedicord]

13. Moore linked to Carlyle Group more than the Bush family?

And monkeys are flying out of my butt. They also say that Bush Sr. quit working on the board after 9-11. I haven't heard that, was under the impression he was still with them. Anyone have any data on this?

Watch, if there's a smidgeon of truth, Moore has a small 401K investment in the group, which means he doesn't control actual stock buying, just picks the fund.

[kikiek]

27. stayed 2 years after 9/11 until Oct 2003

[Beer Snob-50]

15. I don't think anyone could take this relationship seriously

Loew Cinema has a financial stake in Carlyle and F911 is being shown in Loew cinema thus there is a relationship between the two. I think I need a drink! RWers do vex me!!!

[obnoxiousdrunk]

17. Didn't the guy

who runs Newmax admit to treason ???

[Ruby Romaine]

18. that story is such absolute BS-like the RW media

it says Loew's theater chain was just bought by Carlyle.

Let's make an analogy-
You rent an apartment from the XYZ corporation.
The Carlyle group buys the apartment complex from the XYZ group.
Are you culpable?

[AntiCoup2K4]

36. No, but I sure as Hell would be moving!

Poppy Bush & Frank Carlucci for landlords? I don't cheneying think so!

[MallRat]

19. Isn't that a little like saying Ryder Truck is linked to Timothy McVeigh?

Wow- I had no idea that NewsMax was getting THAT desperate.

-MR

[Worst Username Ever]

20. It is true that Carlyle just bought Loews Cinemas,

and it is true that these theaters played F911, which by association, means that Carlyle is (indirectly) paying Moore, but this article is making it out to be a shady deal, when really Carlyle made the requisition AFTER F911 had been scheduled to open in Loews theaters. It was going to open in those teaters before Carlyle has control over them.

[BootinUp]

22. Carlyle bought a theatre chain

I don't see how that connects Moore to Carlyle unless he had to make some special arrangement to get his movie shown there. In other words, is the chain paying the normal fee for this type of movie? And is the deal structured as per normal contracts between distributors and theaters?

The article is the obviously the worst kind of smear attempt. I doubt any major media will pick this up...well maybe Hannity and Colmes and Rush Limbaugh.

[Qutzupalotl]

40. Rush said it yesterday.

I guess that makes NewsMax one rung lower on the food chain.

[Fleshdancer]

23. The Carlyle Group purchasing movie theaters does NOT make a link

Besides, the sale of the theaters was first announced yesterday...an interesting fact that this "article" leaves out.

So what pie does the Carlyle Group not have a finger in these days???

[sandnsea]

24. This is hysterical

So the Carlyle Group buys out Loews, which nobody on the left is thrilled with, and because his films are shown in these theatres he's somehow connected to Carlyle Group? hysterical. They are really getting desperate!

[Westegg]

25. M.M. also linked directly to Bush Admin...

...by some bi-polar caller to a right-wing talk show I was monitoring about 4 am this morning out of NYC. His argument, which I can't remember (I was half-asleep) was that "F.9/11" would ultimately HELP Bush.

I haven't clicked on Newsmax yet, will do so now. Gosh, what a wild 'n' crazy country we live in, yeah?

[JDPriestly]

33. Link, Connection, Relationship

I now understand the whole thing about the link, connection or relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda. The Republicans define these terms rather loosely. Their special jargon I guess.

[TankLV]

64. About as logical as the Saddam/Alqueda connection.

Utter, unmitigated pure bullshit.

But it does fit in extremely well with repuke thinking on the reasons for the "war" and their other reasons for existing.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

26. LOL. hehe, now that's a good one.

[htuttle]

28. A Logic 101 professor I had in college used a similar line of reasoning...

...to prove he was a jelly donut.

:eyes:

[deutsey]

34. "Stevie Wonder is God"

God is love

Love is blind

Stevie Wonder is blind

Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

86. No, you're wrong.

Ray Charles is God.
(That's the version I heard, but I love Mr. Wonder's work, too)

[rumguy]

Their argument is patently absurd

The CG bought the theatre group after f911 came out...Moore had nothing to do with it...

[papau]

29. The usual RW lies that our media never refutes - Lowes contract was

before Carlyle Group bought in this week - and the sale is not yet completed but God forbid Newsmax or NY Post or Fox mention this - or talk radio - or Howie Kurtz in one of his media reviews

But it is indeed True that as of Monday 06.22.2004: "The Carlyle Group - which bashes in the movie as some sort of shadowy war profiteering company - has announced that it will become part owner of Loews Cinemas, which is currently showing his film.

"http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/business/26974.php

Loews theater chain sold (sale not yet completed but announced this Monday)

<snip>
A group of U.S. investors has agreed to buy the Loews Cineplex Entertainment theater chain for $1.46 billion....Bain Capital of Boston, along with Carlyle Group and Spectrum Equity Investors, is buying the 100-year-old Loews Cineplex from buyout firms Onex Corp. of Toronto and Oaktree Capital Management LLC of Los Angeles, the companies said Monday. <snip>

In addition to Loews' U.S. operations, other assets being acquired include Grupo Cinemex in Mexico and Loews' 50 percent interests in Megabox Cineplex of Korea and Yelmo Cineplex of Spain. <snip>

Onex will continue to own units of Cineplex Galaxy, valued at about $77 million, which operates the Loews theater business in Canada as well as Galaxy Entertainment. <snip>

Bain Capital is a private investment firm with more than $20 billion in assets under management. The Carlyle Group, based in Washington, D.C., is also a private equity firm with more than $18 billion under management. Spectrum Equity Investors has more than $3 billion in capital under management.

[enki23]

31. is his dad on the board?

.

[Fleshdancer]

35. LOL!

exactly.

[underpants]

37. They bought into Lowe's Cinema LAST WEEK!

Maybe they did just because they knew how much F911 was going to make.

[papau]

42. 06.22.2004 announcement of agreement to buy Loews - there is no sale as

yet!!!!

:-)

[meti57b]

38. good grief! the rw is going ape-sh*t over this movie, aren't they.

[underpants]

41. They must be clueless to even bring up the Carlyle Group

Let it go Lou.

[yella_dawg]

39. The "link" they claim

is that Carlyle owns Lowes theaters where the film is being shown. That's reaching beyond stupidity. Also, Carlyle offered a deal after Lowes scheduled the film (at least publicly), and I'm not so sure the deal has gone through. It it has, it's the quickest transaction of its type ever.


i.e., it's bullshit.

[southernleftylady]

43. Their reply

LOL Are yall actually reading it? Some Loews theaters happen to be showing Moore's film (which, by the way, they contracted to do BEFORE Carlyle bought the franchise).

Does it matter? It's still a relationship. He skewed the relationship with the Bush's to suit his propaganda, but no one can point out his current relationship and throw it back at him?

[Kool Kitty]

52. Please explain how a theatre showing a film

shows that the maker of said film has a business relationship with the folks that bought the theatre. (And what Newsmax reports isn't skewed?)

Read something other than Newsmax to find out about the Carlyle group. What makes you think that Moore "skewed" his information about the Carlyle group, the Bushes and the Bin Ladens?

[Mountainman]

44. Some times I think we need a special GD board for Newmax and Drudge posts

Also include all the freeper posts there so we can get a laugh once in a while.

[Junkdrawer]

45. Bush's dad and James Baker (his hit man during Florida 2000)...

Both WORK for Carlyle Group = weak link

Moore's movie is shown at a chain that was purchased by Carlyle a day after the opening = strong link

The only link I see is Carlyle positioning themselves to prevent future showings of his work.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

46. NewsMax?? Not much going on here, to be perfectly honest...

...the article you posted from NewsMax on June 21 says the following:

"Reports Sunday's New York Post: 'The Carlyle Group - which bashes in the movie as some sort of shadowy war profiteering company -has become part owner of Loews Cinemas, which is currently showing his film.'"

So what? The article says nothing about when the deal will be finalized. It also tries to make the participation of Loew's to be much more than it was.

Additionally, here is a description of the Carlyle Group...and it really is a "shadowy war profiteering company":

<http://www.angelfire.com/indie/pearly/htmls/bush-carlyle.html>

Excerpt:

"But since the start of the 'war on terrorism', the firm - unofficially valued at $13.5bn - has taken on an added significance. Carlyle has become the thread which indirectly links American military policy in Afghanistan to the personal financial fortunes of its celebrity employees, not least the current president's father. And, until earlier this month, Carlyle provided another curious link to the Afghan crisis: among the firm's multi-million-dollar investors were members of the family of Osama bin Laden."

To show you just how dishonest NewMax really is, here's an article that tells us that only 59 of the original 868 screens were operated by Leow's Theaters:

<http://www.yourmedia.ca/library_articles/040625_mediachan_911.html>

Excerpt:

"On the business side, it was reported that the Carlyle Group, an investment powerhouse with ties to top defense companies and Republican (and Democratic) politicians -- including, at one time George Bush, Sr., Collin Powell and James Baker -- was part of a group that just purchased Loew's Theaters for two billion dollars. Moore's film is slated to play on 59 Loews screens opening today."

[tom_paine]

48. Newsmax Lies. They are a Bushevik propaganda organ with NO fact-checking

machinery.

Read David Brock's "Blinded by the Right" for a deeper understand about the "nuts and bolts" of how such Lie Laundries operate.

[southernleftylady]

50. There's about as large of a straw as he had with the Bush financial relati

There's about as large of a straw as he had with the Bush financial relationship with the Bin Ladens, IMO.
another reply when i said there werent even straws to be grasped in this

[Robbien]

62. You are doing a real good job of spreding RW propaganda here

Many RWers come to DU saying "Hey look at this RW paper and listen to what my RW friends say".

What is your point?

[Kool Kitty]

65. I think you just summed up her point.

Post RW crap and run. Check the link in a previous post on this thread for a similar act. (Look at the link on NewYorkerfromMass' link in his post above.)

[Name removed]

66. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[BurtWorm]

51. Is newsmax capable of satire?

If so, that's all it is. Otherwise it's self-satire!


Reports Sunday's New York Post: "The Carlyle Group - which bashes in the movie as some sort of shadowy war profiteering company - has become part owner of Loews Cinemas, which is currently showing his film."
How much of Caryle's bin Laden-tainted cash has found its way into Moore's pockets - the portly propagandist isn't saying.

But Sunday's Newsday debunks his claim that President Bush has any financial links to Osama's kin.

Citing Craig Unger's book "House of Bush, House of Saud," Moore invokes the name of James R. Bath, who served with Bush in the Texas Air National Guard and who managed the Texas investments for the Bin Ladin Group during the 1970s. Supposedly, one of their investments was in George W.'s Arbusto Energy.

Reports the paper:

"Moore implies the bin Ladens wanted to curry favor with Bush while his father was CIA director. But Unger's reporting - omitted by Moore - says that Bath denies putting bin Laden money in Arbusto."

The president's father was once a Carlyle adviser, but cut ties with the group after 9/11, as did the bin Laden relatives.

[Dr Fate]

53. As my dad says: "These people cant even get their LIES straight."

n/t

[Zorra]

54. Piss poor propaganda.

If anyone over the age of 10 falls for that crud, I hope they don't breed. It is too obvious to even waste time explaining.

[noahmijo]

55. Okay people this is common sense

Moore's movie is carried by Loews BEFORE THE CARLYLE BUY-OUT

Oh my God! This is the same as saying Moore has stocks with the Carlyle group! Moore has been bed buddies with the Carlyle Family for the last 10 years!!!! SEE!! This is just as evil as Bush being with the Saudis for the last couple of decades!!!!!!


If this is the best they got we shouldn't worry about a thing.

[ParanoidPat]

56. OMG! Michael Moore linked to KEVIN BACON!!!

LOL! Is nothing SACRED? :shrug: :evilgrin:

[FloridaPat]

57. Bin Ladins & Bush might still be tied to Carlyle Group.

Carlyle Group said shortly after 9-11 that the bin Ladins pulled out their investments. But this is a private corporation. We have only their word on this. There is no way to check out the actual fact that bin Ladins or Bush 1 pulled out their investments.

[matcom]

58. ah, another 'POST AND RUN'

where art thou southernleftylady?

:shrug:

come out come out wherever you are!

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

60. Michael Moore linked to car use and jeans wearing. Dumbass Repukes.

That's right. Keep on fueling the F9/11 freight train, you stupid rightwing mother-Cheney-ers.

JB

[EndElectoral]

61. Unbeleivable. Carlye Group just boght Lowes. I wonder if it was for this

[americanstranger]

63. Actually, there is a winding trail...

... that starts at Carlyle and winds its way through the acquisition - via Bain Capital - to Artisan Entertainment, which is affiliated with Lion's Gate Films, which distributed 'F911.'

But it isn't that Moore is cozy with these people - to the contrary. Sym and I speculate on this week's TBTM Radio that Carlyle may be buying Loew's in order to get their hands on 'F911' and make it disappear.

Check it out on TBTM-R:

http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20040627175421738

-as

[southernleftylady]

67. uhm... yall got it wrong

Im not rw person at all... Im truely try to get the truth out and thought I could get some back up points from yall... sorry to be a bother but your not going to get rid of me because a few of yall have a problem with me ...

[Robbien]

70. If you are looking for truth, you will not find it in any RW paper

Your time would be better spent reading some threads here rather than spouting your RW talking points. If you really wanted answers you would have had them just by reading threads.

But no, you are having more fun by dumping RW propaganda and pretending you are a "lefty".

[Zorra]

71. With all due respect, what "truth" were you trying to get out?

That MM is working for the Carlyle Group?

Maybe you don't know this, but Newsmax is nothing but a RW propaganda publication.

Carlyle bought into, or was still in the process of, buying the chain on June 21, 2004 after Loews had already planned to show it. The fact that Newsmax is trying to associate MM negatively with Carlyle without mentioning this fact should show you the type of utterly worthless piece of pseudo-journalistic garbage that Newsmax really is.

From the Guardian:

One of Moore's prime targets is the Carlyle Group, a Washington DC-based investment firm that allegedly links the Bush and Bin Laden families. The trouble is that the company recently became co-owner of the very cinema chain due to screen Fahrenheit 9/11 across America.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,12589,1244663,00.html

Monday, Jun 21, 2004
Onex sells Loews for $2-billion
By TERRY WEBER
Globe and Mail Update

Onex Corp. said Monday it has struck a deal to sell its Loews Cineplex Entertainment Corp. theatre business to a group of buyout firms led by Bain Capital for $2-billion.

Bain Capital is buying the business along with The Carlyle Group and Spectrum Equity Investors.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040621.wonex0621/BNStory/Business/

[bobbyboucher]

79. You sure punctuate like a winger.

Dead giveaway. But I'll give you some room, now go out and find another source.

[Killarney]

81. I can vouch for her.

I know her. She is not a rightie. She's as liberal as they come. She was presented with this on another board and wanted to know how to answer. She's new here and doesn't know our Newsmax rule. She has taken her beating and won't post Newsmax again (psst, don't post Drudge or worldnewdaily either). Now, everyone welcome her because she's a fantastic person and will be an asset to DU. :)

[southernleftylady]

68. dupe sorry

if you look at my post you will see my child in a peace rally..

[3trievers]

69. SHOULD BE A NEWSMAX ALERT PROVIDED

Same with world net daily.

[CO Liberal]

72. The Carlyle Group Bought the Lowes Theater Chain.....

...a week or two ago. And F911 is showing in several Lowes theaters. Carlyle probably bought the theater chain long after the distribution contracts were signed.

Wow....what a link!!!

:-)

[frankly_fedup2]

73. First, just let me say . . .

I do not think you are a true Democrat and are just trying to start a flame.

Second, I will not even go to that site to dignify anything News Max Publishes.

Thirdly, nuff said.

[TexasSissy]

74. Ha! That is so pathetic. Carlyle Group bought the theatre to stop the

film from being re-shown close to election. Duh.

This is so pathetic. They are really out of good arguments, aren't they? That tells me that there's substance in Moore's film to such an extent that even THEY recognize it. Interesting. Very interesting.

[Realityhack]

75. Yes...

Carlyle and some other investors bought lowes... and lowes is showing the movie.... but I must have missed the part where Moore said Everything Carlyle did was evil. What I got was an impression that they had a rather excessively comfortable relationship with the bushs on a much more personal level. I don't think Carlyle invites you over just cause your movie was screened in a lowes...

RH

[Lex]

76. Isn't it great that this is all the rightwing has on Moore?

Some desperate shit like this is what passes for a hit on Moore?

That's actually good if you think about it.

Desperation.

[Sweetpea]

77. Six Degrees of Separation

Has us linked to one another....Big f'ing deal.

[Cat Atomic]

78. Haha. Every time I think the RW press can't get any more stupid,

they go and prove me wrong.

Moore is closer to the Carlyle Group than Bush? What a ridiculous claim. It's beyond stupidity.

[Judi Lynn]

80. Want to see a Newsmax triumph in journalism?

Monday June 19, 2000 9:09 PM EST

Neighbor: Elian Victimized by Voodoo

It was bad enough that Elian Gonzalez’s first venture out from his detention at the Wye Plantation was to the Georgetown home of wealthy donors to the Democratic Party.

Elian is, no doubt, a trophy for the Democratic Party and for Castro.

Apparently, the Cuban government wants to pay homage to its pagan gods for its custody of little Elian.

Yesterday Elian, his family and an entourage of Cuban officials were escorted to the Silver Spring, Md., home of a Cuban-American.

The next-door neighbor forwarded NewsMax.com pictures of the event. The neighbor insists the Gonzalez party was participating in Santeria activities.

Santeria is an Afro-Cuban religion in which animal sacrifices are performed regularly to help the practitioner succeed in his endeavors.
(snip)

He continued: "I can tell you that the sound of the drums was deafening at times, and that Juan Miguel was drinking heavily. The neighbor also pointed out a Santeria relic visible through the window of the house. All this activity took place under the noses of the U.S. Marshals Service and INS agents.
(snip/...)

http://www.newsmax.com/cgi-bin/showinside.pl?a=2000/6/19/200106

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is absolutely CRAP, doesn't even resemble actual journalism. What kind of people would even LOOK at Newsmax?

I heard about this stupid stunt when it happened. People were LAUGHING about their articles quoting the neighbor who allegedly looked over the fence and took photos of wicked Democrats having a voodoo event in Georgetown.

For SHAME.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here's an article on Newsmax:

A banner used by NewsMax to push its belief that Hillary Clinton will run for president in 2004 (not to mention copies of its magazine).

NewsMax's Reality Distortion Field

The main qualification to getting published: Say something bad about the Clintons.

By Terry Krepel

If the Drudge Report is the ConWeb's National Enquirer, NewsMax is turning into the equivalent of the Weekly World News.

The Enquirer's whacked-out tabloid sibling requires only a good, grabbing story that'll get people's attention at the supermarket checkout line, regardless of whether the thing is actually true. The same theory applies at NewsMax, where any accusation against Democrats in general and the Clintons in particular are welcome and happily reproduced, truth or fairness be damned.

There are so many examples of NewsMax's Clinton-bashing obsession, and ConWebWatch has documented some of them. Here are a few of the latest:

• A Feb. 22 article twists a New York Post report on Bill Clinton allegedly seeking an introduction to Yamila Diaz-Rahl, cover girl for the latest Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue, into an insinuation that Clinton used the threat of violence against women in the past. "Of course, most of the women who were 'throwing themselves' at Clinton were encouraged to do so by heavily armed Arkansas state troopers," the article states. "Which begs the question: Who's doing the persuading these days when it comes to having young lovelies like Ms. Diaz-Rahl 'duly brought over' to comply with what she's 'given to understand' is 'in order'?"
  
  
• Yet another column, this one by G. Russell Evans, on how horrible the Clintons are and how wonderful George W. Bush is in comparison. Evan's comment, "No amount of polish can shine trash," summarizes the tone of the article.
  (snip)
  
  
• A Jan. 30 article repeats an allegation made by ex-adviser Dick Morris on the Fox News Channel (two unbiased sources right there, eh?) that Bill Clinton bought "what is in effect a vacation house" with money raised for his presidential library. The article then details just how specious the allegation is. "Morris did not say where the new Clinton home is located or how much it cost," it says, adding that "the top political strategist contended that the home's purchase 'establishes that the money he got in return for (the Marc Rich) pardon was really a bribe'" though no connection is provided between Marc Rich and anything Morris alleges.
  
  {li]A Jan. 30 article attempts to deflect attention from the arrest of the daughter of presidential niece Noelle Bush for allegedly forging a prescription by recounting recent events in the life of Roger Clinton. NewsMax did the same thing with President Bush's daughter's alcohol-related run-ins with the law.
  
  
• A Jan. 17 article slams "Sticky Fingers Hillary" for not returning $950 given to her campaign by Enron employees, but fails to report anywhere that she announced she was returning the money a few days later -- not even to try and take credit for it.

Why disrespect the Democratic Underground readers and posters by posting things we all know are crap?

[WilliamPitt]

82. Moore got gas at a Shell station

He's obviously in their pocket.

[Citizen Daryl]

83. This Crap Passes For Journalism Among The Right-Wingers?

Damn, and I thought the "Creation Scientists" were fuckwits.

[mrfrapp]

84. For Goodness' Sake

I wish someone had said that to me in person so I could have laughed in their face.

[southernleftylady]

85. Thank you ..

Who understood what I was trying to do. I didn't go to that sight to get info I was linked there by a rightie and was trying to rebut it. I will never do that mistake again. (trust me ;) ) So thank you Killarney for vouching for me and thank you to the ones who understood I was new and I don't understand all the "rules" here. :)

[Robbien]

89. Sorry

DU has been under some heavy attacks lately from RW idiots who think it is great fun to post outrageous garbage and then sit back and laugh at our reaction to lies. So we have gotten use to going into attack mode pretty quick.

I was pretty harsh on you and am sorry.

Please accept my welcome to DU southernleftylady.

[southernleftylady]

92. Oh thank you! Dont worry about it! I still like this place! ;) ...

Im still learning ;)

[peacetalksforall]

87. This is a typical lying trick of the right wing.....not providing time

facts/

This paper (Rev Moon's paper) wants you to think that a relationship between Moore and Carlyle has existed for a long time.

Carlylye made the move to buy the theatres this past week. It appears to be a surprise based on comments of the business world.

It would be fun to think that they bought it just for the purpose of creating this distortion-lie.

[southernleftylady]

88. lol Or they knew what a hit it would be ;) n/t

[lojasmo]

90. oh for christ's sake

Carlyle owns a theatre chain that's playing Moore's movie.

Pehleeeeze.

[LittleApple81]

91. And they bought the chain AFTER the chain had agreed to show the movie.n/t