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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:12 PM
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Took my young kids to see F911. Was I wrong?
Some fucking redneck, I mean culturally impared white man, sure had a problem with it. Almost started a braul in the middle of the movie.
It's okay to kill and/or expose all the Iraqi children to real violence. That's just fine of course,
if its done in the name of.. What are we there for again?
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:13 PM
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1. you are the parent not anyone else
you were right
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King Of Paperboys Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:14 PM
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2. Let's see...
Were you wrong? If I say you were, are you going to call me a redneck?

Are you looking for answers, or looking for an arguement?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:15 PM
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3. I Took My 13 y/o Not My 10 y/o Though
But only you know how your children can handle it. Some kids have nightmares about stuff like that and it's better if they aren't exposed to that much graphic footage until they're a bit older IMO; but some would do fine with it, it depends on the individual.

In any case, the redneck was totally out of line, unless the children were obviously upset or causing a disturbance or something.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:18 PM
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5. No, in fact they wern't even paying any attention.
I only took them because I couldn't stand missing opening day and didn't have a baby sitter.
I would only use the term redneck in extreme circumstances.
This guy was extreme.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:16 PM
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4. I t all depends on your kids
and who knows them better than you? I would have brought mine when I thought they were ready. It was a hard movie for me to watch though. Also it goes a long way to explaining the pornography of the Bush* administration that seems to me to be much harder to explain than Clintons little blow job. Your decision alone.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:19 PM
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6. I wouldn't have done it.
Those images were too shocking for a child to see, IMO.
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:19 PM
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7. Young Kids.... I sat beside two kids ....
.. probably 8 & 11.

They didn't seem to have a problem with it... but then of course if your kids play video games where you pull the hearts out of your opponent or chop off limbs or bloodsplatter the screen... no big deal.

But if Buffy the Vampire Slayer on TV bothers them.. hmmmm... probably should have left them at home!
:grouphug:
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:19 PM
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8. I don't know
because I have not seen the film so I can't say whether children should see it or not BUT I can say that causing a scene in public is wrong no matter what.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:24 PM
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9. they took their kids to passion
and justified it. i want to take 9 year old but i have to see movie first and from what i heard i dont think i will though i want him to hear what is said

instead i had him listen to part of kerry's speech today
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:26 PM
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11. Don't know that he'd find it very interesting.
And in my opinion the violence in the movie isn't much more graphic than what they SHOULD be showing on the 9:00 news.
DIdn't they show pretty graphic news reals during the vietnam war?
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leftistagitator Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:25 PM
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10. That's cool as long as they're old enough to be quiet during the movie.
The woman who sat behind me had a cute little 3 year old girl with her who talked through almost the entire movie. I didn't really mind too much, the woman was probably a Democrat after all. If you can't tolerate a little rudeness from your friends you won't have them for long, but it was opening day for God's sake.
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:31 PM
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12. I took my grandson
With his Mom's permission, my husband and I took our grandson who is 16. I wept, as I watched the scenes of the young soldiers who where in Walter Reed Hospital and the soldiers who had been killed because of this immoral war that Bush started. My grandson was not shocked at any of the scenes, as he knew most of the the tragedies.

Michael Moore did an excellent job Moore telling the story no one has dared to tell, as he revealed all events from the theft of the election, that September 11th moment, and WHY the country is now at war.

I fear the draft will start, and I have four teen-aged gransons.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:50 PM
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19. Welcome to DU! :^)
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:36 PM
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13. Wow you really gotta ask
Edited on Tue Jun-29-04 06:39 PM by LibertyorDeath
I saw a decapitation

A young child with their arm torn wide open

A dead infant being tossed in the back of a pickup full of other bloody & lifeless bodies.


I saw dismembered burned corpses being kicked & stomped & hung up.

I saw dead & dying soldiers.

I heard the awful screams of the horribly injured & the dying

Sure kids play Violent video games but this ain't no fucking video game.

Have you ever heard of Child Cognitive Development.

WOW you really gotta ask.

WOW!
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:45 PM
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14. That is entirely the point
War ain't no video game. The sooner children find it out, the better. Of course, it depends on the kids.


Desensitised kids to "fake" violence are all too easy for the Armed Forces to recruit. That is why they use it in their recruitment efforts. Tanks are cool, don't ya know! Of course, they don't show you the shattered lives and families.
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mellowinman Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:58 PM
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15. Do NOT let others judge you.
You are a grown up. You can make decisions.

In my opinion, ALL THESE FUCKERS THAT SUPPORT THE WAR SHOULD BE FORCED TO LET THEIR CHILDREN WATCH THIS FILM.

The IRAQI CHILDREN have NO CHOICE about seeing the VIOLENCE, DEATH and CARNAGE.

OF COURSE you should take ALL children to see it.

What is wrong with all you Pink Tutu wearing Democrats, anyway?

Yeah, shield those kids from the truth about life.

GREAT IDEA!

And tell them there's no monsters too, while you're at it.

No bogeyman.

No scary adults that will molest them.

Don't worry kids; everything's OK.

Because you're WHITE and AMERICAN, and there's no chance anything bad can ever happen.

You have the RIGHT to bring your children up however you see fit.

My advice to you: Don't start threads like this on this forum.

You won't like the results.

EVER.

But I think you did the right thing.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:51 PM
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20. Welcome to DU
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:24 PM
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16. No. You were right.
IMCPO, it's important for children to know the truth about our government. My hubby and I saw the movie on Friday and we are taking our 11 year old to see it next week. He already knows about most of the crap Bush has done. This movie will only show him how evil they really are. I want his eyes WIDE open when it comes to the U.S. Government.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:24 PM
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17. It depends on the kid, and I don't mean that the way you probably think...
... what I mean is, if they're anything like the 8 year old that was sitting to my left, then CERTAINLY NOT! The kid was as hard core a right wing repuke as I've EVER seen. The dad was obviously a Democrat though (go figure! from overhearing them talking before the movie, I take it he gets his politics from his grandmother).

It was actually kind of FUNNY (if it wasn't so sad) seeing such a young kid with such STRONG political viewpoints! I found myself arguing with him before the movie. haha He said something to the effect of, "Kerry... what has HE ever done? He's a HORRIBLE speaker...". I turned to the kid and said, "Yeah, because Bush is just WORLD RENOWNED for his great speeches, right?". The dad just cracked up. But at points in the movie he made snide little right wing comments. Found myself wanting to kick an eight year old's ass. :) Good times, good times.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:48 PM
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18. No one can answer this question but you. You know your kids.
Like I said earlier, I saw stuff this horrible every night on the news during Vietnam when I was a kid. Taught me how horrible war is, and did a lot to shape who I am today. I think we glorify war in this country. kids see war movies, and shoot em up police movies. What they don't see is what war really is. unfortunately, kids in many parts of the world grow up with the horrors of war daily. I will let my oldest (almost 10) watch the DVD when we get it. My 8 year old, though, would worry himself to death over those Iraqi kids - who he already asks about daily. That was his first question about the war - "What about the kids in Iraq mom?" Indeed, what about the kids?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 08:08 PM
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21. I don't agree with taking the kids because you couldn't find a sitter?
That really sounds more like a convenience for you, rather than a well-thought out decision about your children. I didn't see how old they were, but if they're young enough to need a sitter, then.. come on.. you know they're too young to see that. Can we preserve some little bit of childhood anymore? There are developmental stages until a kid reaches adulthood.. they really aren't ready for that type of violence.. while adults can often reason it away intellectually, it puts kids on overload. I'm sure I'll get some Donahue-esque rebukes for "judging you", but as a parent of a 12 year old, and someone who has studied child development as it relates to entertainment, it was probably a very bad move on your part. Depending upon their ages, you'll see effects of that decision at some point soon in their behavior.

The redneck guy, as you describe him, was probably a parent like you and me, and got a bit carried away. I would be pretty disappointed to see a parent bring a young child in there. Regardless of the intellectual value of the movie.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:33 PM
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22. We're there to pay back the Iraqi's for destroying the WTC
Well, you can fool me once, but twice? Well you just can't do that.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:35 PM
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23. I wouldn't take a kid under 13, or so
it's too graphic. I turned my head away plenty of times.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:46 PM
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27. I'd say it's ok for
any reasonably mature 12 year old.

Not for kids younger than that, though.

I took a 12 yr old and he was fine. He thought the child's arm was a bit gory but he loved the movie - followed along well... the kid got it.
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AtTheEndOfTheDay Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:41 PM
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24. Hell bound!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:42 PM
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25. Considering my mom took me to see Bambi's mother being shot, I'd
say it depends on your kids.

Thanks to Disney for the eternal scar on my psyche ... :P
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masshole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:44 PM
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26. I will be taking my kids
Edited on Tue Jun-29-04 09:44 PM by masshole
to see F911. I just saw it with a friend tonight. My kids, ages 16, 14, and 12 are fairly saavy. They watch the news, ask questions, we discuss what's happening in the world most every night.

Two of my kids will be of draft age during Shrub's second term if we don't do something about him NOW.

Your damn right I'm bringing my kids to see F911.



edit - spelling
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:53 PM
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28. I took my 12 and a half year old
but left the 10-year-old with friends. My older child is pretty sophisticated and knows quite a lot about what is happening in this country. He was quite disturbed about the violence and we talked about it afterwards. He said he really liked the film,but I am second-guessng myself just a little about whether I should have exposed him to those terrible sights.

My younger child, besides being more vulnerable to the graphic images, wouldn't have understood most of the jokes and would have been bored shitless by much of the film.

Depending on the age of your children, I do think you are rationalizing your decision just a bit by talking about the Iraqi children who are exposed to violence. It surely doesn't follow that all other children should be forced to witness it.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:58 PM
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29. What did they say?
How old are they and how did they handle it? Were they old enough to understand the humor and not be scared? To hell with what the redneck said, do YOU think you did the right thing?
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