Fuck it. I'm voting for Nader.

[Peak_Oil]

Maybe it's time for the Democratic party to just finally merge with the Republican party and end the confusion. I'm voting for Nader.

For all the rest, vote Skull and Bones in 2004.

You have no choice.

[WilliamPitt]

1. Do I care?

Survey says no.

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29. I'll take curtain two, Walt

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[WilliamPitt]

39. I've seen this person around

but never thought he/she was a troll. I have no basis now for calling 'troll,' either. This person could just be annoyed.

[tinanator]

69. wouldnt it be best

if you just preemptively assassinated the misguided voters of America?

[kiahzero]

82. St-st-st-straw man!

What a surprise!

Not even a well-constructed one, either. It's a damn shame... people don't but the time and craftsmanship into their bullshit arguments that they used to.

Better luck next time.

[tinanator]

98. I dont stutter

do I?

[Peak_Oil]

40. Fair enough. n/t

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3. Zzzzzzz

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[dumpster_baby]

23. democratic activists have been saying that for decades

meet the new boss
same as the old boss

[jpgray]

31. Why do the so-called 'independent' minds repeat the same tired lines?

I've heard the script thousands of times, and I wish one of you would add something new to it.

:shrug:

[dumpster_baby]

47. look, in countries with REAL democratic govt's, there is a process of ...

...COMPROMISE, and RECONCILIATION, where different factions of the Left (e.g., the center left and the far left) will form a combined ticket, or will adopt planks of the other faction(s)'s platform.

They do this in order to WIN. But the Democratic party refuses to do this. And they have paid the price, and they likely will continue to do so. They do this EVEN THROUGH the "true" Left favors reforms that have found favor with Americans in general, such as universal healthcare. Gee, I wonder why they will not accomodate the Left? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the Demcratic Party appratus has more in common with the GOP party apparatus than with the Democratic voters in general.

[The Magistrate]

48. So, Fellow

What compromises do you think the far left should make with the left and left-center and center-left?

Enquiring minds want to know....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASRARDS!"

[Media_Lies_Daily]

77. In REAL democracies, elections aren't decided by the SCOTUS.

[Walt Starr]

34. Hey, you want somebody other than Kerry

start working on November 3rd.

I might even join you.

Come Novemer 2nd, job #1 is getting Bush out of the White House. Kerry is the only person capable of accomplising that.

[emulatorloo]

53. I thought that was The Who - You must be prepared to be Cheneyed!!!!!!

I went through my "there all the same phase" eighties, and then Reagan got his 2nd term, in which he proceeded to Cheney the US and Latin America.

If you think Bush is Cheneying us now, you aint seen nothing yet. . .we are going to get Cheneyed like we have never been Cheneyed before.

I guarentee you a Dem is not gonna Cheney us like that.

[dumpster_baby]

103. oh. don't worry--if Texas comes into play, I vote for Kerry

otherwise, I vote for Nader.

I am not saying there is NO difference btw Kerry and Bushco, just that that there is not much difference, when you consider what Nader would do.

And the main thing that Nader would do is educate and sell and push the left agenda. He would be constrained by all the Repubs AND Dems in Congress/Senate, so he could not implement all that much. But Nader would USE that 4 years to SELL and propagandize. Kerry won't.

[kiahzero]

84. Riiight

Care to back that up, without resorting to the bullshit "NAFTA! PATRIOT ACT! IWR!" formulation?

One of the most liberal members of the Senate is somehow equal to one of the worst and most conservative Presidents in a century?

What's that smell? Could it be... bullshit?

[Dookus]

6. Did you hold your breath

and stomp your feet while you typed that?

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[freetobegay]

8. Oy vey.

If you cannot see the difference in the two parties...:eyes:

[orthogonal]

9. What decided you?

You haven't indicated what impelled you to this decision, and I'm curious.

Also, if it's not too personal, are you in a battleground state?

[Peak_Oil]

46. I'm in CA, so it probably won't make much difference anyway

but my reason is that I want a third party candidate in a presidential debate in my lifetime.

[tinanator]

71. dude that was last elections battle

they blew him off. I would respectfully suggest voting for an actual 3rd party rather than a 3rd personality (well, 2nd perhaps, I dont know if Kerry has one).

[Pachamama]

92. If Dubya is re-selected, then there won't be any more debates....

...and then you can wait your whole life for nothing....

You really want to see a 3rd party candidate in the debate? Start working on Nov 3rd after Kerry becomes President to help work towards that goal, but don't use the Presidential Election to try and do that little science experiment....We did that in 2000 and look what it got us!

[NWHarkness]

10. When you say "fuck it"

I take it you are referring to the United States of America

[The Magistrate]

11. Carl Rove Thanks You, Sir

He needs all the support he can get on the splinter left....

"Can't nobody here play this game?"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[wyethwire]

12. Good luck with that

send us a postcard when you get there

[Nlighten1]

13. You are mighty brave...

If Bush gets re-selected America is going to pay dearly for it. Yes, the Democrats suck right now. And yes, they are part to blame for Bush being in power. But, and this is a big but...if Bush gets another 4 years I shudder to think what he will do.

Resist the urge to throw away your vote on Nader.

[mellowinman]

14. Vote for me!

I'll send hookers to your house to give you three hour blowjobs!

[nosmokes]

26. err, do i get to screen em?

cause you might get my vote.

[mellowinman]

44. Nope.

They will all have SD's, and will be overweight transvestites.

Unless that's what you like, of course.

Then they'll be Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader Clones.

No, wait; I've got a good one:

They'll all be Ann Coulter clones!

(I won't be held responsible if they bite it off...)

[nosmokes]

61. you used the same dictionary that the shrub used for

liberate, din't ya?

cause it shows, dude, it shows...

[mellowinman]

66. If you're going to insult me

try not to be so obscure. That way, everybody can laugh along with you.

[nosmokes]

93. wasn't trying to insult ya mellowman

just pointing out that your campaign promises left a bit to be desired, between the promise and carrying out. like no child left behind. or liberating iraq. i meant it to be like, ironic, sorta.

sorry if you took offense, cause i meant none.

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17. 'k

'bye

:shrug:

[nosmokes]

18. we woulda looked if you posted something thoughtful

too, ya know.

[Generator]

19. No, you're voting for Fascism. It's not an option to be cute anymore.

[Eric J in MN]

20. If you want 4 more years of Bush, then you should vote for Nader.

If you want 4 more years of Bush, then you should vote for Nader.

If you think 4 years of Bush is 4 years too many, then reconsider and vote for John Kerry.

Or at least vote against Bush by marking the ballot for John Kerry.

[Tosca]

21. Oh?

You're voting for Bush, good for you.

[JHBowden]

22. Besides health care, education, abortion,

progressive taxation, gun control, the environment, capital punishment, energy policy, civil unions, social security, and tort reform, there really isn't any difference, right?

:dunce:

[kiahzero]

85. Free Speech, Establishment, Search and Seizure...

No difference on any of those, either...

:eyes:

[DemoTex]

25. "Cheney" you!

You are a world-class "Cheney-up."

[Lex]

27. "Look at me! I'm so interesting." zzzzzzzzzz . . . .

n/t

[CatWoman]

28. ALERT!!!! DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!! DANGER!!!!

[tkmorris]

30. CLEAN UP IN AISLE 3!!

:eyes:

[CatWoman]

36. ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. I understand how you feel, but I'd rather take my chances with Kerry

than wind up for sure with *. :(

[BeFree]

33. Kerry is the best possible person for these times

Kerry knows how to work the system. We are gonna need the best politician serving us in order to climb out of the hole we currently find ourselves in.

Kerry won't have to wonder who is who... he knows who's good and who's bad. We will have the attention of Kerry as he works toward setting America back on track. He will need us to help beat back the neo-con onslaught.

Voting for anybody but Kerry on Nov. 2nd, is as good as a vote for the pnac *.

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[Zorra]

42. Yeah, fascism isn't so bad. Maybe we'll get to wear those spiffy uniforms

like they had in Germany in the early 40's after we all get drafted for the PNAC war effort. I'm thinking about maybe starting my own state-church youth group, maybe we can learn to build internment camps for the new lowered minimum wage. And I don't really mind if I'm not allowed to read and say anything I want, the government always knows what is best for me. And if I'm homeless, I won't ever have to worry about paying bills. And if my children must live in a dark world of despair and hopelessness, hey, at least they won't have any illusions.:)

Yes, the future looks rosy for America under Bu$h fascism.

Fuck it, I'm voting for Kerry

[Walt Starr]

43. But I look so shitty in brown

and I HATE the fucking armbands. They're so gauche!

[Amaya]

45. This is the stupidest thread ever

:eyes:

[Colin Ex]

81. I don't know, I've started some pretty stupid threads in my day. nt

[JohnKleeb]

49. the things that make me wish I could vote

some people are so :shrug: ignorant.

[lucky777]

50. Kerry is so boring -- Billy Crystal recently made fun of it . . .

He asked if Kerry was having fun, and Kerry said yes. So Crystal said, "Tell that to your face."

This is what drives people to Nader.


http://www.theunionleader.com/prez_show.html?article=39824

[polmaven]

52. Nader is a fun guy????

:wtf:

[Sparkly]

57. I second that wtf

"I'm having fun," a smiling Kerry told Crystal at the end of the show. "And my face got told."

Whereas Nader, a former gameshow host, is a regular laugh riot. His electrifying personality make him the voters' top choice for a presidential barbecue guest, the most important criterion for the election. Moreover, the zany independent has been known to comb his hair, sometimes twice in one week!

[WindRavenX]

55. That's a great reason to vote for Nader!

...because he's a fun guy.
Puh-lease.
A vote for Nader, or anyone else BUT JOHN F KERRY, is a vote FOR BUSH.

[proudgreengirl]

67. A vote for Nader is a vote for who you believe in...

WindRavenX said


"A vote for Nader, or anyone else BUT JOHN F KERRY, is a vote FOR BUSH."

Untrue. A vote for Nader is a vote for who you believe in. Heck, he's my choice.

[kiahzero]

88. Sorry, "proudgreengirl," it's a plurality voting system

By voting for Nader, you're insuring that the issues you CLAIM to care about have less of a chance of coming out the way you'd like them to.

Emphasis on CLAIM. After all, if you truly were concerned with said issues, you would do what it took to grant the greatest possibility of those issues coming out the way you'd like them too, even if it meant voting for someone who didn't "believe in."

This is, of course, ignoring that Kerry is one of the most liberal members of the Senate, which apparently makes him identical to Bush.

[Pachamama]

94. Proudgreengirl? Uh, Nader doesn't represent the Green Party.....

...that vote goes then to the actual Presidential candidate for the Green Party - David Cobb - and that's not Nader.

So maybe since you just joined the DU, you might want to change your name because its not representing the Green Party to vote for Nader....

:eyes:

[WindRavenX]

99. You are an enabler

Your actions are helping keep the traitorous bastard George W Bush in office.
You are an ENABLER.
Does Nader have a shot in hell to beat W?
No. You want W out of office?
Vote for the man that WILL beat W- John Kerry.
You are no different for someone that votes for W as your actions will allow W to continue to drive America to the ground.
Kiss the enviroment goodbye.

[emulatorloo]

56. Sorry, Britney Spears is not running this year.

If entertainment is your first criteria, get a Playstation 2.

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[Endangered Specie]

54. Bush thanks you for your vote...

Prepare for the FOURTH REICH!

[slinkerwink]

58. maybe it's time for my generation to be drafted by voting for nader

which in turn gives Bush the white house.

[Radical Activist]

Who will get us a draft

If Bush proposes a draft it will be strongly opposed by Democrats in Congress and probably fail as a result.

If John "stay the course" Kerry proposes a draft it might get support from some Democrats and actually pass Congress.

So, which candidate is more likely to get us a draft? I'm not so sure.

[slinkerwink]

73. Bush since most of Congress is controlled by Republicans

[spooked]

59. Well, here's your Vice President, then...

[Swamp Rat]

60. I think Peak_Oil said "fuck it" and left the building...

figuratively and literally.

[w4rma]

62. I don't really trust folks who say things like this. (nt)

[walldude]

65. I normally vote 3rd party

but this year the mission is clear. Bush needs to go. On top of everything thats going on currently, there are a few Supreme Court judges getting pretty old. We could have a few appointments in the next few years and if Bush is in office the repercussions could be dire for years to come.

[Toucano]

63. There's confusion?

"...merge with the Republican party and end the confusion."

Please try not to project your confusion on the rest of us. If you're so confused, don't you think you should just stay home on election day. I mean, you can go to work or to school (don't want to get you in any trouble) but the confused should stay away from the polls.

[Renew Deal]

64. huh, what's the crisis now?

You can't have such a cool name and say such dumb shit.

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[tinanator]

70. A MANHATTAN PROJECT?

Like it would require any sort of brain trust to harvest solar radiation. What else is he selling you? Hope you get a good price.

[kiahzero]

91. Oooh, and anti-science too!

Don't invest any money in it... we'll just go with what seems simple!

Great idea, though... Solar cars, for example, do so well.

:eyes:

[tinanator]

97. got stock?

buy Halliburton

[Warren DeMontague]

72. Have Some Cheese With That Whine

Your Best Thinking Got Us Here.

[hiphopnation]

74. The only question that matters....

are you in a swing state? If so, go far away from here.

If not, go for yourself and have lot's o fun doin it! :thumbsup:

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[Media_Lies_Daily]

76. You do understand that a vote for Nader is a vote for FratBoy, don't you?

[Borgnine]

78. As I've said before...

...if you vote Nader in 2004, you probably won't even get the choice to vote in 2008.

But hey, who knows? Living in an evil empire might be fun! We can pretend like we're in Star Wars! Oh boy oh boy! I get to be Chewie!

[alittlelark]

79. Uh yeah........

I wanna Fascist regime to tell me what I need to do..........

[Colin Ex]

80. Mommy, daddy! Stop fighting! You're ruining my birthday!! (nt)

[serryjw]

83. There is ONE good reason to vote for Kerry

We live to fight another day!. A hundred times in the last 6 months I have said I was voting for Kucinich (write in), But with Bushit it is ALL OVER. At least with Jk we save SCOTUS and work for a better tomorrow.
Do you REALLY want to spend the rest of your life in a fascist nation?

BTW I have some great article on PEAK OIL...write me if your interested.BUSHIT or KERRY are not our problem....PEAK OIL IS!

Arabia probably financed Pakistan nuke program. They have attempted to assassinate Musharraf twice. If they succeed Pakistan falls into the hands of the MUJ and we are in deep sh*T.
When King Fahd dies(shortly) we could easily have a civil war in Arabia......There goes 25% of the world's oil

The world is in deep trouble and I don't want Bushit & CO in the WH.......Do you?

[Gemini Cat]

86. Oh whatEVER!

Enjoy the cheneying you're about to receive.

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[FrankBooth]

89. How inspiring

You really showed em man, you are something really special.

[Tatiana]

90. What Cheney said..... n/t

[porphyrian]

95. That's just not responsible.

Look, I know Kerry is a DLC whore who voted for the shit we're currently in, but how can you accept the alternative?

[yorgatron]

96. you should spend at LEAST 5-10 minutes to think about

what happens WHEN (not IF) a supreme court justice retires,sandra day is only staying because she now regrets putting shrubco in office.

[Zinfandel]

100. True, But NOT this time, dude Nader, NO!

There's no throw away votes we can chance this time...

We got to show how Bush stole it, again.

Every vote must count.

(Believe me, I want fucking an alliterative, as well).

Not this time...

[Piperay]

101. Do whatever the fuck you want

but just shut the fuck up afterward and don't complain if chimp gets back in the whitehouse because you have no right to complain since you essentially voted for him with a vote for Nader.

102. PLEASE DONT, OMG-OH MY GOD!

aw fuckit.

No one cares. Vote for my Senile Grandma Gert if you want.

[Moderator]

104. Locking.....

This is flamebait.


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