Have we terrorized Iraq?

[struggle4progress]

Ignoring the war with Iran, in which he was encouraged and aided by Reagan, Saddam may have killed a total of 96000 - 176000 after 1987:
5000 in chemical attacks on Halabja,
50000-100000 Kurds in the Anfal campaign,
1000 Kuwaitis in the Gulf war,
30000-60000 in the 1991 uprising,
and over 10000 political opponents
http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2000/09/iraq-000918.htm
In the period 1987 - 2003, the terror averages to 6000-11000 deaths/year or 16-30 deaths/day.

Current figures at http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ indicate that civilian deaths associated with the US campaign in Iraq have averaged about 20-25 Iraqis/day.

It seems to me Iraq's average daily terror didn't decrease by much, if any, when we dropped in.

Anybody have better estimates of Saddam's body count or of ours?

[NMDemDist2]

1. i'd say so, looking at this site, by Raed (of Raed in the Middle)

http://civilians.info/iraq/

[struggle4progress]

4. Yeah, Ruzicka et al did a good job.

But I think they counted only until "major hostilities" ended.

[Peak_Oil]

2. What would Chomsky say?

I think he'd say we committed the war crime of aggression for which the Nazis were hung following the Neuremburg trials.

[struggle4progress]

5. I'm generally more interested in what people actually say ...

... than in what they "would" have said or in an irrelevant quote out of context.

I know that it's a tedious distinction.

[welshTerrier2]

3. DU

you cannot even begin to measure the damage we've done to Iraq by poisoning the country with depleted uranium ... i don't know, and don't really want to think about, the half-life of that stuff and the cancers it will cause ...

bush is a war criminal and should be tried for his crimes in an international court ...

[DemoTex]

6. I agree...

Bu$h's stock answers, when questioned by someone like Radio Telifis Eireann's (RTE) Carole Coleman, always include the moral equivocations of a liar and a cheat. His is a world of moral relativism: "Abu Ghraib was where Saddam tortured prisoners," etc., etc., ad nauseum. It is a wonderland inhabited by Alice's strange entourage and self-proclaimed ex-alcoholics and ex-drug abusers. Bu$h fits very well into those categories.