Iraqis not ready to handle own security? Before the US invaded they did

[keithyboy]

a pretty damn good job of managing their own security. None of the shit that is taking place now in Iraq was happening when Saddam was in power. Our invasion opened up this tinder box for which both American and Iraqi lives will be lost unnecessarily.

I heard a US soldier say that after seeing the poor state of the schools and hospitals when they marched into Baghdad they feel vindicated in what they were doing. Made me think: This poor brainwashed kid doesn't even realize what a great society and infrastructure Iraq had before we started fucking with it. The people were among the most educated men AND WOMEN in the ME. They a beautiful buildings and top notch energy systems and water ways (designed and built before the US was a glimmer in the world's eyes). Years of sanctions and aerial bombings is what actually tore up the Iraqi infrastructure and harmed its governmental systems. Yes, it is true that years of Saddam's brutal dictatorship took its toll on the lives of thousands...not much different from the havoc the puppets we installed all over the world took on the lives of millions. Who the hell do we think built those beautiful buildings and palaces in Iraq? It wasn't Halllibutron. The US is responsible and the UN for the years of starvation, wreackage, and fear that the Iraqis have been subjected two for almost 17 years. What would the US look like after 17 years of sanctions and bombings?

Our people remain ignorant of history and their role in it!

[acmavm]

1. What amazes me is that they are trying to make people believe that

the Iraqis are now self-governing (which we all know the aren't) and then they call up more people for military duty here in the US. That's a total contradiction of all that they are trying to make people believe. IF they are now letting freedom 'reign', then they need to bring our boys home and quite drafting (this is a sneaky form of a draft) people here.

I just cannot figure out why the media thinks we are sooooo stupid that we don't see through this crap. I know that they are playing along with the administration, helping to cover this farce. But I would think that any journalist, even if he's a hack like Novak, would be too damn embarrassed to tow this particular party line.

I hope that when Kerry's elected they're all in the employment line like millions of other Americans that they helped put there. Or better yet, send their asses over there and let them do a little 'duty' if they think things are going so great. They'd be hunkering in their bunkers crying for mama in the blink of an eye.

[LARED]

2. It's true

brutal dictators alway have great security.

[Mistress Quickly]

3. Yes, Saddam had great security

before he was booted out.

So did Hitler. Most tyrants do. For some reson people are scared of them. :shrug:

[Loonman]

4. Yeah, Boston used British Redcoats for security after 1781

Dumbasses.....

Who do they think they're foolin'?

[LittleApple81]

5. The new "sovereign" government will kill, main, torture just as the Saddam

government did. Here:

This paragraph comes for the article "Iraq's repairman" in the latest edition of Newsweek.

The defense minister, Hazim Shaalan, is a former banker who more recently worked as a real-estate agent in London. "After June 30," said Shaalan, "we will hit these people and teach them a good lesson they won't forget. Americans and allied forces have certain restrictions we won't have." He declined to be more specific, except to say, "It's our country, it's our culture, and we have different laws than you do." (A few days later, after yet another suicide bombing, he was more blunt: "We will cut off their hands and behead them.")

So the Abu Ghraibs will blossom, and the USA will say: that is what liberated Iraq wants to do, we cannot interfere. Perfect!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5305770/site/newsweek/