Revenge is oh so sweet!

[historian]

I live in redneck hell where fahtrenheit 9/11 doesnt stand a chance of being shown but my son and his friends wanted to see it. My rotten little mind came up with a delightful little schmeme (even if i say so myself). Called the parents to ask if it was allright for me to take their children out to dinner and a movie of their choice to celebrate sons birthday. Oh yes they were thrilled so I asked for a waiver from them in order to "protect" them.
Took them to see fahrenheit 9/11. boy were the parents pissed - they called me calling me everything under the sun - one threatened to sue. Please do i said - i believe i have a waiver here with your authorizaiton to take your son a film of his choice.
Worse part is the kids returned home to ask their parents how they could vote for such an animal.
My son is moving away soon so he doesnt really care but he is secretly thrilled.

[Walt Starr]

1. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

EXCELLENT!

[Guaranteed]

2. Pretty sneaky...

Not something I'd do, but, hey good job. :)

[LiberalVoice]

3. You Diabolical Villain You!

Good job! There's nothing more gratifying then pissing off a bunch of right-wing asshats!:evilgrin:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

4. cool!

though i would never had signed that waiver to someone with a different political view. you get what ya ask for!

[wryter2000]

5. Just curious

Did the other kids already want to see F9/11? Not that it matters. I'm just curious.

[historian]

25. yes they did

they held a vote and 9/11 won! I didnt drag them there or force my opinion on them

[SaraLydia Velazquez]

80. wow

wow

[iconoclastic cat]

6. You are a model for parents everywhere!

Soon, I will follow in your enormous footsteps.
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[NJCher]

7. oh man is that funny!

Cher

[ScreamingMeemie]

8. A question. How old are the children?

I ask this because I was really irritated a couple months ago when I found that a friend of my daughter's mother let them watch American Pie, which is not something I would want her to watch. If they are under the age limit, I would have to say these parents have a valid reason to be upset. Just my 2 cents.

[Cheswick2.0]

13. I would object to smut and sex too......however

How can you equate that with letting these soon to be drafted cannon fodder candidates the right to know what is what in this administration?

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. I just look at it in terms of the shoe being on the other foot in this

case. As much as I think the parents should allow their children to see the film, I think it is wrong for another to take the kids without the parents' consent and knowledge. I would be livid if someone took my child to see a film extolling the virtues (heheheh, as if there were any) of Bush without my prior knowledge at that rating. I would have worked on the parents. Asked them to join me or something along those lines.

[historian]

27. no point

limbaugh reigns supreme here. Besides I am sick and tired of ignorance and if I can change it so be it. As for the parents....

[historian]

26. they are almost 18

but i raised to think for themselves - my son generally shuns the usual hollywood rubbish

[m-jean03]

89. I thought "R" meant one only had to be 17

So why couldn't they go on their own if they were almost 18? :shrug:

[troublemaker]

9. A similar story

I live in atheist liberal hell where Mel Gibson's The Passion doesnt stand a chance of being shown but my son and his friends wanted to see it. My rotten little mind came up with a delightful little schmeme (even if i say so myself). Called the parents to ask if it was allright for me to take their children out to dinner and a movie of their choice to celebrate sons birthday. Oh yes they were thrilled so I asked for a waiver from them in order to "protect" them.
Took them to see The Passion. boy were the parents pissed - they called me calling me everything under the sun - one threatened to sue. Please do i said - i believe i have a waiver here with your authorizaiton to take your son a film of his choice. Worse part is the kids returned home to ask their parents why they don't worship Jesus.

[muffin_man]

11. LOL

You ARE a trouble maker!

[Cheswick2.0]

12. Don't be ridiculous

Liberal parents wouldn't care. They would just talk to the kids afterwards and discuss what they thought was wrong with the movie.

[NJCher]

33. exactly

Cheswick, exactly.

The Passion is not comparable to F911, either.


Cher

[HuskerDem]

90. Passion was shoved down EVERYBODY's throats - We were all treated

to tales of the Godly Mr. Gibson while his movie opened in 3000+ theaters compared with 868 theaters for F/911. The media painted studio bosses who passed on Passion as godless fools and lunatics. When those same studio bosses passed on F/911 they were merely cautious and savvy businessmen, protecting their shareholders.

The two are incomparable.

That being said, If I sign a wavier allowing my child to see ANY movie - if she sees something I don't like I have one person to blame alone. Here I thought Republicans were all about personal responsibility......... I see, just like everything else..... only when it suits THEM.

[Eloriel]

34. I would care

Why? Because it was so very, very violent.

[Tansy_Gold]

42. If someone came to me and asked me to grant permission

for my kids (they're now grown, so this is moot) to see "a movie of their choice," I'd set the limits. If the parents are too ignorant to know what's out there and what their kids might be asking to see, tough.

When you sign on the dotted line, you sign on the dotted line. Can't gripe later on.

[Cheswick2.0]

52. not anymore violent than the video games their parents buy them

.

[belle]

38. I know I would. But then my almost-18 year olds would know that

they can see anything they want to without my permission anyway. sheesh! those almost-of-legal-age kids are so polite and "respectful," obedient, even. asking their parentsfor permission to go out with a friend and his parents for his birthday! that should only be the worst thing that their kids ever do, see a movie they don't approve of! maybe they should be thankful they're not off setting fire to old ladies or becoming crack whores or something, you know?

[nose pin]

14. LOL

Good one.

[StandUpGuy]

17. But...

If I had ever received that waiver I would have either asked to attend, or polled the children first to see what the "choice" was, and I definitely would smell a rat.

So would most non rednecks and probably even some of them too.

So congrats

:headbang:

[historian]

28. i asked for the waiver

just to say that they agreed i could take the kids and i was not responsible if anything happened

[Catherine Vincent]

18. I didn't realize that liberals were suppose to dislike "The Passion"

My liberal friends and family saw it and thought it was great.

[ScreamingMeemie]

23. I don't think that was the point. And if you notice the poster talks

about living in atheist liberal hell. Thus alluding to the other parents in this scenario being atheist. It was a well done parody.

[mike1963]

45. Sorry, I see through your bogus story. Nice try.

It doesn't pass either the smell test or the duck test. I applaud your motive but you really aren't doing anybody any favors making this crap up.

[bobbyboucher]

91. I can think of a dumber reply,

wait, no I can't.

I'll give you a half-gallon.

[Kanary]

10. Now *that's* using your noggin'!

I hope your son recognizes what a jewel he has for a parent!

And, Happy Birthday to the lucky son!

Kanary

[Catherine Vincent]

15. Did you really do that? Man, that was great!

Good on ya!:toast:

[LizW]

16. Not your place

Depending on the age of the kids, of course. If they are over 17 and could have gone to see this movie on their own, then fine. But if they're younger, you were out of line, in my opinion.

I would be annoyed if someone intentionally took my kids to a movie they knew I would not approve of. It's the same kind of thing I face all the time, with people wanting to take my kids to church with them under false pretenses. "It's just choir practice." "It's just a pizza social for teens." Of course, it's more than that. It's an attempt to proselytize my children against my wishes.

Parents are ultimately responsible for what their child sees and certainly these parents should have asked more questions before they agreed to the outing, but it sounds like you were intentionally misleading. I really think you overstepped.

[djg21]

24. I agree!

If your son's friends were minors, then you procurred your "waiver" under false pretenses, and you intentionally usurped the ability of the parents to determine what kinds of media content are suitable for viewing by their children. You were out of line, and FYI, the waiver is worth shit!

If they were not minors, no big deal -- except that you were intentionally dishonest, and that is a scumbag move no matter what your motivations were.

I'd be pissed too!

[historian]

30. look at it from this side

these kids are raised with guns, hollywood rubbish (terminator and the like) and their dreams are of one day owning a truck. To hell with the world - my children have to live in this world and if i can change anything in a small way, ill do it.
Remember that repukes will stoop to anything - so why shouldnt we?

[LizW]

37. I don't know these kids

or families, so of course I'm speaking in terms of my own experiences and my own parenting preferences.

I think you said before that these kids wanted to see F9/11, so in spite of those stereotypes you mention, it sounds like the kids are interested in a more enlightened world view than their parents hold. So maybe the world is changing already. Maybe your son is influencing his friends to be more open minded and informed.

I live in the south and constantly come into contact with people who have vastly different values than those I want for my kids. But I'm uncomfortable with "stooping to anything" to change the world to my liking. The fact that republicans will stoop to anything is the very reason I refuse to do so.

[sazdem]

98. Because

It's not your place to decide what is wrong or right for these kids. They are not your children. If someone did this to my kids they would regret having done it.People should keep their broom in their own house. This was out of line.

[belle]

39. I think the kid's wishes should take precedence. esp. if they're teens.

I would just hope that my kid didn't feel like s/he had to lie to me to go see a movie or go to a church.

[seabeyond]

19. ya, but....................

as a parent i say, bad you. i would be bothered. what if you chose to take my children to passion. then again, if you had me sign a waiver without telling me the movie i would be saying no to the bday party.

i think kids should be aware, i do. and i think they should be listening and watching to what is going on in the world, be a participant. i do

i just dont agree with this, not to rain on your parade, though i did, lol lol lol

anyway, tis done, and taught the kids some stuff. let us know if anything else comes from this, like possible enlightment from any parent

[TrustingDog]

21. 'signing a waiver'? wtf....

that sounds weird. what's That all about?

[belle]

40. I was gonna say. controlling parents, much?

I'm not wild about the "trickery" aspect, but since the kids themselves really did want to see this movie, I think it's okay. sooner or later they have to grow up and decide things for themselves. it doesn't sound like those parents give them much opportunity. kids in their late teens should not be having to ask their parents for a "waiver" to see an R-rated film with a friend and his parents, for crissakes. sorry.

[mmonk]

22. I'd say that

took guts.

[Nashyra]

31. I think you said they were almost draft age

As a parent I think you did a fantastic job, if it was an 8 or 9 year old different story but you said they were almost draft age. Hey if a parent is willing to let their children go with another parent and have them be in charge of their safety and well being then they must trust your judgement. If they did not think to ask their sons what movie they wanted to see before they let them go then the parents should blame themselves if they are pissed. I think it was gutsy and it was well worth the parents wrath to help educated our kids. If a RW took my son to see a movie that was age appropriate but one I would not want to see for political reasons it would give us a chance to discuss different points of views. You said they were almost draft age, I'm sorry that is old enough to make there own decisions and if the parents are upset tough shit they can get over it. If they are that over protective of boys that age they are asking for major problems IMHO Good for you!

[dmr]

29. I took my son's friend

with us last Friday afternoon, but I had his parent's permission first. The parents were all for it and plan to see it themselves. The mom is a registered Republican who has listened and learned from her 14 year old son. She is especially afraid of a future draft.

There was another friend who begged me to let him go with us, but his dad is a strong Bush* supporter and hates Democrats. He punishes his son when he learns that the boys have been out doing their impromptu ABB protests. This boy would never, ever have told his parents he went with us, but I will not go against his parent's wishes.

This dad sadly has already limited how much time he will let his son spend with his friends because of politics. It's a crying shame because his son is a kind-hearted and intelligent young man, but dad says the boy is too young to be dealing with political issues. <sigh>

A few years ago my son was good friends with a neighbor boy whose mother tried to indoctrinate my son to her version of God. That was one very bad scene, and the story would make you livid.

My belief is don't you interfere with how I raise my son and I won't interfere with how you raise yours.

[Still_Loves_John]

32. Wow

I can't believe you're proud of what you did. I mean, politics aside, you tricked parents into letting you take their kids to a movie they obviously objected to. Even if the parents are right wing, they're still their kids, and it's not your place to take them to such a graphic movie without their parents' permission.

[ElectroPrincess]

35. Oh fooey, nothing's going to "harm" the little tykes ... You're my hero!

BTW I'm taking my 10 y.o. Daughter to the movie Friday. The only reason it received the R rating was to somewhat passify the right.

[HuskerDem]

92. I'm sure it's nothing she doesn't hear on the playground but I believe

it got the R for the excruciating sequence where soldiers talk about the song they listen to to get 'psyched up' to go killing. It goes on for a while and "burn m-fker burn" gets repeated over and over to images of all kinds of death and destruction.

It's pretty traumatizing. That and the dead kids.

Please have a long, long, detailed discussion with her at least twice before you take her and ask her how she feels about seeing images like this in particular. I say twice because kids that age need a little extra discussion on serious topics, they've only recently left behind Santa and other fairy tales so reality.......... takes a little longer.

PLEASE MAKE SURE she wants to see it for her own reasons - NOT JUST TO PLEASE YOU. I'm not being accusatory, I know how much daughters want to please their mothers at this stage.

Innocence is a precious, precious thing. Be sure you are willing to kill hers before you take her.

[belle]

41. I disagree; I think the kid himself should be able to make that decision.

...at that age.

Yeah, parents are legally responsible for their kids as long as they're "minors." But come on. These are kids in their late teens. They should be able to start exploring ideas other than those approved by Mommy and Daddy. And yes, that goes for the reverse, too. The difference is, I wouldn't try to forbid my *teenaged* kid from going to see the Passion. Ask yourself: at what point does it stop being genuine "protection" of your kids and start being "protection" of yourself?

[TankLV]

59. Uhhh - THEY HAD THEIR PARENTS' PERMISSION.

It's THE PARENTS' fault for not knowing or caring what films were playing.

They could have been informed, intelligent parents and kept abreast of what was going around them...

oh - wait - they're repukes and idiots. That would have been asking too much!

Hahahahahahahahaha.

It's their fault for being lazy and stupid.

Great going to the parent who got these kids exposed to the TRUTH!

[kimchi]

36. Someone who signs a waiver w/o asking questions isn't too bright.

If the parent's specifically knew the movie would be R rated, but didn't think to ask which one, then they can't complain.

[TankLV]

60. BINGO!

Got that right!

Sometimes, intelligence is sorely lacking.

I would have been suspicious right away if some wacko fundie wanted to do that - I would have had an "inquizition" for quite a while going over the "do's" and "don'ts" of what I would have allowed - especially if it were presented the way it was.

These idiots had it comming and THEY CAN'T COMPLAIN BECAUSE THEY APPROVED IT BEFORE HAND IN WRITING!

Typical repuke whining - not you - these so-called "parents".

[mike1963]

43. I'm a bit confused ... did you have to go to another town/city?

I don't think you did anything wrong if it really went down the way you said, and you got signed waivers, but something in this has just a touch of odor here...(this from someone who would happily fart in Shrub's face and ridicule him before and after)....?

[Zorra]

44. Contributing to the literacy of a minor. Is that a crime yet?

[mike1963]

46. HA. It's not far off, but this tale is bullshit. I've analyzed it.

Never happened. I will wager $5,000 against a cold cup of coffee.

(I do understand the motivation...many of us would like to think it took place...)

[nose pin]

48. I agree

Historian would have to be posting from a hospital bed after one or two freeper dads got through with him.

[Name removed]

54. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[nose pin]

56. Oh of COURSE

you're not calling me a freeper.

/sarcasm

[tom_paine]

57. Right, so you won't mind if I laugh at your gross mischaracterization

of a bunch of Brownshirt (p)ussies.

What makes you think they are so tough?

Do tell.

[nose pin]

64. As a fairly pacifist parent

If a winger took my kid to a young republicans meeting without my knowledge and against my wishes, I would probably punch that person in the nose. Even cowards can turn into lions where their children are concerned.

[tom_paine]

65. That I won't dispute.

And the sad truth is, neither side are cowards (hyperbole aside).

Just as in Civil War I, they think we are cowards who will fold, we think they are cowards who will fold.

But NO ONE will probably and it will be a Horror Show.

May God have Mercy on our Souls.

How's that for a dose of the unvarnished truth?

[nose pin]

68. Thanks

I feel MUCH better now.

:freak:

[historian]

49. well how perceptive of you

before i do anything in the future, from going to the bathroom to having a hangover ill make sure to consult you first to see whether it is bullshit or now

[historian]

50. well how perceptive of you

before i do anything in the future, from going to the bathroom to having a hangover ill make sure to consult you first to see whether it is bullshit or not

[historian]

51. well how perceptive of you

before i do anything in the future, from going to the bathroom to having a hangover ill make sure to consult you first to see whether it is bullshit or not

[mike1963]

55. Methinks thou do protest too much. Three times, even.

:eyes:

[tom_paine]

58. Methinks you have quite a high opinion of yourself, mike

Methinks you might find it difficult to find other who share that lofty opinion.

[redqueen]

62. lol

How sad... are you seriously claiming you've never seen people double or triple or even quadruple post here by accident before?

[DelawareValleyDem]

53. Not yet

But Ashcroft will probably drag up the ancient "corrupting the youth of Athens" charge that was used to nail Socrates.:bounce:

[JCMach1]

47. evilDUer

:)

[redqueen]

61. I'm shocked DUers are responding with derision

The parents signed WAIVERS.

I wonder if they even ASKED what kind of movie you might or might not draw the line at... if they would have been so outraged if the movie was The Chronicles of Riddick. I wonder if they even asked their kids what they might have asked to go see.

[kz1500]

63. Interesting

How old were these kids?

I am kinda interested in what kind of warped mind it takes to use children in a Revenge against rednecks, Isn't F/11 rated R?

This all sounds kind of sad and warped to me.

[redqueen]

66. Read the thread

Post 26 contains the info you seek.

I would hazard a guess that the "revenge" is not against rednecks. I know rednecks who are not keeping themselves willfully ignorant of the criminal doings of the Bush gang.

Seems to me that the "revenge" is more against the right wing - for their torrent of lies about the movie which they are currently spewing anywhere and everywhere they can.

The same lies that would keep many young adults in the dark about the reasons for this war, even as the draft plans are being written to send them off to die for Halliburton and Bechtel.

Care to clarify, historian?

[kz1500]

69. Still using kids

"Seems to me that the "revenge" is more against the right wing"

It's still using kids, taking them to an R rated movie no matter the content without informing the parents, seems a little loose in the head to me.


"The same lies that would keep many young adults in the dark about the reasons for this war"

The poster said kids. Children under the age of 18 (or anyone used for revenge) used in revenge seems screw loose to me.

Take my kids out for revenge against me in any way, you won't like the results.

kz1500

[redqueen]

70. Not "using" kids... providing them with fair warning. n/t

[kz1500]

71. Don't you mean

reeducating them no matter what their parents think.

Not finding the use of children for something like this is sickening.
You don't reeducate, inform, tell how to believe, or what to think to anyones children. That is just about the sickest thing.

What next, little runs out at night to tell them which god to or not to believe in, maybe they should inform you of any activities of their parents you might not like.



kz1500

[redqueen]

72. Which God they believe it will not send them to die in war

Bush's lies (and the complicity of the media and suffocatingly ignorant parents) will.

[kz1500]

74. So this all

seems ok with you all? Just grap somebodies kid who disagrees with you and inform the child of how to believe?

Do you have children?

Would that be ok to do with your child?

kz1500

[Curious Dave]

75. The type of redneck

parents we're talking about here can't be trusted to raise children. Would you agree that it is ok for someone to intercede on behalf of children whose parents don't believe in medical treatment? This is the same issue. I'm just glad someone with the right political sensibilities was in a position to lead these kids to the truth.

[kz1500]

76. Wow

And with just a quick hey how ya doing you are gonna be the one to judge that.

I ask again, do you all have kids?

Can just some smooo who thinks different than you, tell you that they are taking your kids out for an outing then teach them what ever they please?


kz1500



PS: will be gone for the evening, maybe we can finish in the morning.

[PA Democrat]

85. The kids were "almost 18" to quote historian

which is almost old enough to enlist or be drafted. If these kids are almost old enough to go and die in Bush's damn war, they are old enough to see a film which doesn't gloss over the realities of this war like the media has.

And yes, I AM a parent of 15 year-old son. My husband and I have spent 15 years instilling in him our values which also extends to our politics.

My son's good right-wing friend sends him RW bullshit emails all the time, and some of the stuff is pretty objectionable. But the great thing is that my son reads it and then has a healthy debate with his friend as to why he disagrees.

[kimchi]

95. I hope my child won't WANT to see a pro-Bush movie,

but I would be happy to discuss it with her afterwards if my right-wing neighbors took her with my PERMISSION to see any movie she wanted.

[djg21]

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[djg21]

93. How about the hypocrisy?

We on the left frequently object to attempts to censor the media by touting "parental control" and "parental responsibility."

Then one of us unilaterally decides to wrest from a parent the prerogative to control what his/her child is exposed to.

We simply cannot have it both ways. Either we allow parents to exercise their judgment as to what children are exposed to, or we concede that parental responisbility alone is insufficient to "protect our children."

What this person did to exact "revenge" was inexcusable, irresponsible, and extremely short-sighted.

[against all enemies]

67. Offer to take the parents too.

They should at least see the "horrible" film THEIR kid wanted to see.

[UdoKier]

73. The parents shouldn't complain...

At least Moore doesn't show hardcore porn - LIKE FOX NEWS!


(not that there are very many 17 year old boys with a very good working knowledge of porn....)

[yzf_flyer]

77. My Kids are My Kids...

and I will bring them up with my view of the world. It is not for anyone else to take it upon themselves to enlighten or indoctrinate my kids to a view I do not approve of.

I would be livid if someone did something like with my kids. Especially if that person did it with the motive of going against my wishes.

I am not talking about this movie specifically but the actions in general.

I would not object to a gay couple bringing up a child with thier unique view of the world and I do not object with Christians doing the same with thier kids. My beliefs are my own to pass down to my children no one has a right to go against them.

[UdoKier]

96. What a remarkable opinion to see on this board!

If these were 5 or 10 year olds, you might have a point, but these "kids" are 17. They already have pretty established worldviews. To assume that you are the only person with a right to influence your child's views simply because they are under the age of 18 is pretty arrogant. If you've done your job as parent well, the lessons you've imbued shouldn't be undone by a lousy movie.

Your kids are being influenced by outside events, peers, etc. from a very young age. Even when they come back from a sleepover screaming that they want a Playstation, they have just been subjected to another reinforcement of the indoctrination into the consumerist mindset, that they have to have X or Y useless gadget to fit into a peer group. That's every bit as coercive as what the guy did. Besides, I don't recall the parents specifically forbidding him to bring the kids to F911.

I am raising my kids in a decidedly non-Christian environment, but if they were that age and their friends brought them to Mel Gibson's anti-semitic gore-porn "Passion" movie, I wouldn't be all that upset. I would expect that my kids could see through the bunk and get whatever kernel of truth my lie in the movie.

Your kids are not your property. They are human beings, individuals who will soon be voting citizens. If nothing else, they need to know that the corporate news media in this country doesn't NOT report the news, but it always furiously spinning for US business interests and their republican benefactors.

F911 imparts this story, and even if the kids refuse to believe in the Saudi-Bush connections, or the fundamental corruption of the war, at least they will know enough to take the media's reports with a grain of salt - and not because they are "liberal">

[meisje]

78. Why you could be in trouble!

The parents most likely figured you were going to take the kids to a movie and show them a good time. Instead, you had an agenda, you used children under the age of 18 to make a political statement. Immoral, Yes! Illegal, No! But, They can sue you and your little waiver will not stand a chance. Imagine if they argue that you somehow tricked the kids and as a result and they now have emotional distress.

What if, the tables were turned, say a movie about Clinton or Reagan were out and it has an obvious right wing slant. Let's say it were a movie about Clinton, rated "R" and contained detailed scenes involving a blue dress. Ned Flanders comes over to your house, takes your son out and pulls the same trick. He then gloats about it on line, highlighting how the waiver was to "protect" the children. I wonder what your reaction would be? I thought so!

Now maybe the parents would never find this forum, but the Freepers know about it and these types of things do have a way of getting out.

You Sir are not a smart man, I'd never want my kids around you and we are both on the political side.

Oh Yeah, if these are down home good old U S of A rednecks, I hope your house is made of brick!

[Curious Dave]

79. But there is

a fundamental point being overlooked here. It is right to expose kids to the truth. It is wrong to try and prevent them from learning the truth. F9/11 is the truth. Thankfully we have DU'ers who are still willing to do what needs to be done in the name of the truth.

[yzf_flyer]

81. Look at it like this...

a fundamental point being overlooked here. It is right to expose kids to the truth. It is wrong to try and prevent them from learning the truth. Jesus Christ is the truth. Thankfully we have Christians who are still willing to do what needs to be done in the name of the truth.

Do you honestly believe that my post has the same merit as yours?

[Curious Dave]

83. God told me

to start killing ants with a magnifying glass. It is right to obey God...

See how silly this could get. At some point a standard of behavior has to consider what is reasonable. Reasonable people would never dispute that F9/11 is the truth, whereas the truth of Christianity is highly debatable.

[kz1500]

97. Oh really

"But there is a fundamental point being overlooked here. It is right to expose kids to the truth."


And who are you to decide what the truth is for others, especially their children.

I have 7 kids, ages 22 to 4, each of those kids is a different person, and I have had to treat them all different and raise them all different, and you think you should be-able to come along see them and me for a few hours and decide what to expose my child to. Like you could even have a clue.

"Thankfully we have DU'ers who are still willing to do what needs to be done in the name of the truth."

Reeducate innocent children against the wishes of their parents!!!
Yes, I can certainly see the wisdom in that... NOT!!!!

kz1500

[kimchi]

94. "You are not a smart man" is not a nice thing to say.

Sounds like a personal attack, to me.

The teenagers (not children) weren't USED; they WANTED to see the film, and the parents AGREED that they could see any movie they WANTED. Who is "not smart" in THIS scenario?

[Piperay]

82. TERRIFIC!!! :-)

I think a parent that would sign a waiver allowing the child to pick any movie of their choice without asking what the choice is going to be is not a very good parent to begin with and has no right to complain later. GOOD for you, you show more responsibility than the children's parents themselves did.

[PA Democrat]

84. You were more respectful of the parents than the military is

I'll bet those parents don't know that military recruiters don't need to ask permission to contact their high-school-age children to entice them to join the military.

A provision of the wonderful No Child Left Behind Act requires high schools to provide the military with your child's personal information unless expressly forbidden by the parents.

[mellowinman]

86. Good job man!

All the whiners on this thread should definitely blow me.

Maybe we can set up a time?



(please; I'm only joking; I'm happily married.)



Seriously though, I think its important that we show our kids we're not a bunch of fuddy-duddy anst-filled liberals.

Remember folks: Our guys showed submission to the freepers, and it only emboldened the right. You're either with us, or against us.

(hey that wasn't my idea...)

[laylah]

87. Excellent!

Way to go!

Jenn

[HuskerDem]

88. Somewhere Lila's son is giving you a big ethereal hug

I'm happy for all of you, the kids (the ones who would be doing the dying) got to see it and the fascist enablers got their briers burnt down. Good.

[Quahog]

99. What a goofy bunch of posts!

Yeah, OK, if these "kids" were under 17 and had begged to see an "R" movie and historian had facilitated it, I would have called bad on historian.

But dammit, all he did was drive them to the movie they wanted to see. He had permission to take them to a movie, got that cleared by the moms and dads, asked them what they wanted to see and they picked F9/11. They were old enough to get in, no laws were broken. No one "told them what to believe" (WTF is up with that bullshit? Would taking them to "White Chicks" have been telling them to believe that black men in drag can pass for white women?). They went to see a documentary. These "kids" are of an age that they could all very well be college bound. They better damn well be able to handle some input of information that requires processing and evaluation.

What, are "redneck" minds so weak and feeble that a single screening of Moore's film will totally reprogram them? Are the critical thinking skills of America's 17-year-olds THAT deficient?

Get a grip, people. They went to see a documentary, not "Cum Drinking Dildo Whores From Hell."

Sheesh!