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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:41 AM
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Is Kerry a uniter? Is that why he approached McCain (if he did)?
How and what do you think he will do to help bring our country back from its worse division since the war between the states?
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:43 AM
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1. He DID NOT approach McCain.
Why are you repeating publican lying points here?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:48 AM
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4. Peace. I have repeatedly said he did not on other threads. We are
talking SPECULATION on uniting people.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:20 AM
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18. Bullshit, your obvious implication was that he did.
You are repeating publican propaganda. What is your agenda for that?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:25 AM
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20. Sorry you feel that was how I stated it. It was not my "agenda" or
Edited on Wed Jul-07-04 11:29 AM by efhmc
intention. Edited to add: I really wanted to talk about uniting people. Something I seem to have not done with you. Sorry.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 02:06 PM
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22. If you are interested in uniting, stop using explicitly divisive language
straight from the great dividers at the publican national committee.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:08 AM
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15. Thanks! The McCain story was ROVE BULLPOOP!!!!!!!!!!
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:44 AM
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2. Suppose he did it...
as a way to neutralize McCain - if he's able to cast McCain as someone he could work with, this might provide enough separation between McCain and * to cast some doubts. Just some thoughts...
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:46 AM
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3. I think the rumors started with DNC
so Bush would attempt to use McCain against Kerry (as he is now) and now the DNC/Kerry can use every negative thing McCain has ever said about Bush and use it to their advantage.

At no point in time do I believe Kerry considered McCain as VP. As a cabinet member... maybe, not VP.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:50 AM
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6. That is very close to my thought. This moves shows how far the
repugs have come from caring about our nation and the things that we need to work on together.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:48 AM
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5. Are DUers now repeating Republican lies?
Here is a link:

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0706b.html

McCain and the Vice Presidency:

Mark Salter, McCain's Chief Of Staff, Said McCain "Has never been offered the vice presidency by anyone."


Did they give you their right-wing talking points?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:54 AM
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8. What are you talking about? Please read my question. I want to
Edited on Wed Jul-07-04 10:55 AM by efhmc
know what can be done to bring our country back to some form of democratic rule of the people and to do that we need a president with great skills at diplomacy and who knows how to work with others. This is why what some consider a weak point of Kerry, I think is a very strong point, his ability to listen to others and then make his own decisions.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:13 AM
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16. I am talking about that Kerry did NOT approach McCain
I don't know who came up with that bull.

Bush and all the Republicans, and the media are now repeating that Edwards is the second choice. I've had enough of that. Having that repeated on DU just got to me. Sorry for being too harsh.

As you just stated in your post, Kerry's and Edward's skills at diplomacy are far better than Bush's. They wont change the extreme right-wing core of the Republican Party, because these people will do everything in their power to oppose anything Kerry is proposing. But with Kerry in charge, there is hope that moderate Republicans have enough sense to compromise.

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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:21 AM
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19. Thanks, I agree. I beginning to think I stated this wrong. I see Kerry as
a person who loves his country and its people deeply, who is thinking and planning first his election and then how he can reclaim the country. I am so happy that he is the candidate and after hearing Edwards speak at the Dem Con. in Texas, I know he was a great choice for VP and as a future pres.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:50 AM
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7. forget mcCain this is kerry/edwards day
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:55 AM
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9. Yes he is
He will help sooth America's woes and rebuild respect around the world. People will see his accomplishments and start realizing that the GOP is nothing but LIES and Propaganda. Of course there will always be a few hard cores who will be fascists their entire lives but most Americans will start coming together and become one country once again. All it takes is "Adult" leadership and fairplay. Kerry has the potential to become one of our greatest Presidents of all time. America has almost no place to go but up. We are at our lowest point in history right now and no hope of any change with the current thugs in power.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:58 AM
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12. Wow! you express my feelings exactly. I actually love the thoughtful,
grave manner he has (especially after the smirking chimp)that shows me he understands what is involved in making the choices that need to be made.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:55 AM
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10. I don't think he seriously approached McCain...
I think the two of them were having a good ol' time with this. Kerry's whole campaign so far has been feint, fake, and watch the fireworks. Use your opponent's strength against him. Let your opponents weaknesses take him down with only a little help. Let 'em run in circles boxing shadows. Rove really has nothing on this guy when it comes to media manipulation.

Kerry's Old School Senate, when they could argue over policy during the day and have a few drinks together that night. Kerry's personally very close to McCain and Hagel and no doubt quite few of the other Republicans.

I don't doubt for a minute that Kerry would stop, or at least slow down, the extreme partisanship going on on the Hill right now. There will always be fights and power grabbing, but Kerry's gonna work much better with Republicans than Shrub ever could with Democrats, or even some in his own party.



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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:56 AM
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11. Eeeewwwww!
Who would want to unite with the Repuglicans?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:01 AM
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13. Is does seem like an icky idea but that is the way of a 2 party system.
I'm looking forward to reclaiming our half, or more, of that.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:07 AM
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14. Kerry is a uniter.
If he ever discussed it with McCain, I am sure it was because this country is so divided.
If he did, it would have been commendable that he had made a unifying ovature, but whe have so many qualified Democrats that should not be overlooked.
I kept hearing about this from the talking heads, but never from any Democrats. Do you think Chris Matthews was given this topic as a talking point from the Pubs just like Novak was given the identity of Valerie Plame?
I notice that the Pubs have now hobbled McCain into lockstep.

I would love to go back to the days before there was a Limbaugh attempting to incite violence against any Democrat.
When they find out who mailed the anthrax, I think Limbaugh should be on trial with him as a co-conspirator. His kind of hatred is unnecessary and unacceptable in civilized society and should be restricted with an "R" rating from being broadcast during any "family" time period.
His hatred shouldn't be showered onto the troops in Iraq without a balancing opposing viewpoint. What kind of morale will they have when Kerry is in office and Limbaugh keeps spreading lies about their Commander in Chief?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:17 AM
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17. I agree. I point my finger directly at Limbaugh for the Oklahoma
city bombing.The worse thing that ever happened to the media was when response time was no longer provided. I was trying to think of this event (the possible McCain thing) as proof of how much Kerry loves and wants to work to put this country back on the right course.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:11 PM
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21. A difference between Bush and Kerry
Kerry loves his country -- Bush loves himself.
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