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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:52 AM
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Liberals are evil - here's the explanation:
OK. Conservatives believe in God and Jesus (or so it says on paper. In practice, well . . .)

In Genesis, in the bible, God created Adam and Eve, and placed them in the Garden of Eden. God also placed the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden.

(with a nod to the Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

God placed the tree of knowledge in the garden so that Man would be tempted to not blindly accept everything that God says. God basically put it in there to be able to jump out at the moment of Man's curiosity and say "That's it, you broke the rules. Out of the pool."

In other words, we liberals are evil because we actually try to learn things and gain our knowledge. Remember, anybody who thought that the Earth revolved around the Sun was, at best, placed into house arrest. Not sure how much worse you can go than "tortured to death".

So, because we liberals have some knowledge, we're evil.

"God says it (almost always through somebody speaking for God), it must be true. We must accept everything of God's will. Don't treat that scratch, it's God's will that you die of an infection that could be stopped with a little soap and water."
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:55 AM
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1. Conservatives = reverse evolution
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:04 AM
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5. Conservatives = frightened by change
even positive change that most people (even conservatives) think represents simple justice. The conservatives are sitll fighting the hippies, even though most hippies are old and decrepit and looking toward social security. They're still fighting against the consciousness raising feminists even though those same women are now the sweet little old granny types they see taking the grandkids to the playground. They're absolutely horrified that they may have to change a definition of marriage that they've always lived with, only because it's a change of definintion.

It's a mindset that resists change, no matter how benign it is or how little real effect they feel in their own lives. They would rather live with an ugly color a landlord picked than paint the walls because change is so frightening to them.

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:59 AM
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2. It has to do with how we deal with problems
Conservatives (whether they are economic conservatives or religious conservatives) presume they know the proper path to achieve their goals. They believe in freetrade or god's moral authority. They believe that the truth obviously must support their position and that anything that counters this is obviously a lie or a liberal spin on the truth.

The left meanwhile believes that we must examine the facts as best we can and then base our path on these truths. We do not presume to know the truth. Instead we presume we have to start from the truth and then working together we must struggle to figure out what the best path is based on that truth.

Often times the truth as discovered conflicts with the interests of those that believe they have the truth. If your adherence is to your beliefs instead of the truth then anything that appears to conflict with your truth will be percieved as a threat.

Thus it is that the conservatives can chant that the media is biased. For when the media does its job and tells the objective truth (as best as we can discern the truth) it is favoring the lefts modus operandi. It does not spin the information to fit the preferences of the right. Thus in their eyes the media is hopelessly biased.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:00 AM
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3. Which God?
I posted this a couple of weeks ago...take your pick (all gods of war)
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Which God is it?

Partial List of War Gods:

Ares-Greek
Mars-Roman
Perkons-Latvian
Tyr-Teutonic
Indra-Hindu
Aray-Armenian
Hadur-Hunnic
Tezcatlipoca-Aztec
Seth Or Set-Egyptian
Si-Mochican
Teutates-Celtic
Hachiman-Shinto
Ninurta-Mesopotamian
Guan-Di-Taoist
Chemosh-Moabites
Wurukatte-Proto-Hattic
Ictinike-Iowa (Native American)
Nergal -Ancient Sumero-Babylonian
Maru-Polynesian/Maori
Ogoun-Haitian/Voodoo
Gu-Fon
Zababa-Akkadian
Murukan-Tamil (note: he rides an elephant!!)
Resef-Ugaritic And Phoenician
Ashur-Ancient Assyria
Erra-Babylonian
Segomo-Celtic (Continental)
Bugid Y Aiba –Haiti And Puerto Rico
Reshep-Syrian
Samulayo-Fijian
Burijas-Iranian Kassites
Rugiviet-Slavic
Beg-Tse-Tibeten Bon
Oro-Tahitian
Ninurta-Sumero-Babylonian
Nacon-Mayan
Laran-Etruscan
Dev-Persian
Enyalius-Spartan
Kukailimoku –Hawaiian
Turris-Estonian And Finnish
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:12 PM
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10. Phil.
n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:02 AM
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4. Conservative Christians who think they "own" God
are more than welcome to lock themselves up in their churches and hide from the rest of the world. Just wish they'd stop trying to convert everyone into joining their cult.

Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/liberalchristians.htm
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leeman67 Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:42 AM
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6. Conservatives also seem to believe now...
...despite their self-righteous religious rhetoric, that the Ends Justifies the Means. That explains their view of the 2000 election (can you imagine if Gore had won that way?), it explains their policy of "pre-emptive" war with regards to Iraq, it explaines Abu Graib and Guantanamo. So go ahead and lie, cheat, steal, kill (basically, violate every single one of the Ten Commandments), and it's cool so long as the "good guys" win. Unfortunately, I must have skipped that part of the Bible, or perhaps there's a secret abridged version just for Neo-conservatives that we don't know about? :P
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:52 AM
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8. You must have skipped Exodus
and all the lovely passages where God plagues the Egyptians and then murders their children. I especially like the part where God hardens the Pharoah's heart so that he will make the wrong decision, so that God can not only punish him, but everyone else (including the kids) in the area.

But, hey, the Israelis needed to escape.

It's all ok if god is on your side.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:20 PM
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13. This seems to be a common thread in the abrahamic religions
Both the OT and the Koran have verses where god essentially makes it so that individuals cannot find him and then he punishes them for not finding them.

Exodus 4:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

2 The Cow
6 As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.
7 Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom.



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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 02:09 PM
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15. Hi leeman67!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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MissAnnThrope Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:45 AM
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7. Been hanging out with Christian Scientists, have you?
Prayer will make that scratch better. Which is actually a misconception. In Leviticus, that book they love to quote, it says straight out sores must be dressed. Unless of course, by issue from the skin they mean gonorrhea. It's hard to tell with even using various translations.

However, issue from the skin does make one unclean. They're supposed to bathe, dress it and then sacrifice a few birds and depending on the ailment, either bathe in the bird's blood, or clean the house with the bird's blood. Gee, and I thought blood on the walls was a bio-hazard.

But I do hope the extreme right wing is the exception, not the norm. Those people scare me. As does the extreme left wing. Both extremes are about a hair away from touching, even if the religious ideology is different, the political policies are the same.

We're evil in the eyes of the right wing, as they've come to believe all Democrats are communists. That if the Democrats get the power back, they're going to end up in trailer parks after being taxed to death. I guess it's better that the middle class continue to shrink and end up in trailer parks, while tax breaks for corporations and the rich continue.

But getting back to your post, I have questions I like to ask the people who follow the Bible blindly. Who was there to record what went on in the Garden of Eden, why is it only in Jewish lore that Adam's first wife, Lilith is ever mentioned, how did Adam and Eve's son's manage to go off to the city to find wives if Adam and Eve where the first humans and all life was in the garden and finally, did Adam and Eve have navels? Navels would indicate they were born of woman. No navels would have made them imperfect human beings.

Bible beaters also love the King James Version, which is the worst version out there, as far as translation goes. According to scholars, that is.

Another question I just thought of is, God put the Tree of Knowledge in the garden. Adam and Eve ate of it, after she was tempted by the serpent. (Yeah, everything in the bible puts the onus on the women.) OK, they covered themselves immediately, as they realized their nakedness was wrong. God wasn't pleased. Now, if nakedness was wrong and they only discovered this by eating the fruit, does that make God a pervert who likes looking at naked bodies? Think about it. He didn't bother to tell them their nakedness was wrong. He spent his time looking at them. That tells me God is a porn freak and approves of pornography. So shouldn't we all become nudists for God? Or am I just looking for a reason to run around naked in the summer heat?

We can go further. Think of all the women who are abused by men who tell the judge they're following the word of God. That women are second class citizens, because the bible says they are. That women are supposed to submit to man. So we liberals, who tried to get the ERA passed, who have been fighting for women's rights since the Suffragette movement are all evil and going against God's word.

We believe in rights for homosexuals and lesbians. That of course, is also against the bible, so we are evil for that too. We're trying to turn the world into Sodom and Gomorrah. Whereas, most scholars disagree that any homosexuality was going on in the story. That was something that came about when the King James Version came around. What they don't realize is, Paul also came out against heterosexual sex in Corinthians. Paul was against ALL sex.

Now, those who claim to follow the word of God are going to be burning in hell with us liberals when their judgment comes. According to Paul: 6: 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Let's break this down. Ballots "fell off a truck" in Florida in 2000, courtesy of Jeb, so neither Jeb nor Shrub are getting into heaven, as that is theft.

What adult hasn't fornicated? According to Paul, it's even wrong in marriage. So have your kids and then repent and become born again in his image if you want to see heaven. Say goodbye to ever having sex again.

No extortioners. Good news, kiddies! There will be no lobbyists in Heaven!

Basically, what Paul said contradicts Mark, who said you just have to accept Jesus to be saved. According to Paul, we're all damned anyway, including 99.999% of conservatives.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:15 PM
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12. Okay, you're over-analyzing what was meant as a facetious post
But, whatever twangs your throttle, froggie!

(not meaning "froggie" in the derogatory French mode; I picked up that phrase after watching a review of either "Empire Strikes Back" or "Return of the Jedi"; the reviewer played a clip of the fishy-faced guy, and then spew forth the above phrase).
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MissAnnThrope Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 04:34 AM
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16. What?
You mean, you don't think God is a porn addict?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:22 AM
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18. God is actually a sadistic fu--er.
Just ask Job.

On your latest point, from the only good RW (Robin Williams), playing the "God" character, when asked why G put so many nerve endings in the genitals when he only put 3 in the whole ass: "I want them to scream MY name when they're having sex."
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:57 AM
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9. Know-it-all...
...fancy-pants elistists, the whole lot of you.:)
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:14 PM
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11. I am a LIBERAL, A LIBERAL, A LIBERAL, and PROUD OF IT. Take this
and stick it in your ear, you reversed-evolutioned person!
That is all I have to say to these ignoramuses...
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:23 PM
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14. Knowledge is the enemy of faith.
Remember studying The Dark Ages?

They're back!
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 06:14 AM
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17. Based on the fact that God also said that gay marriage is wrong
I can't trust this "God" and if that is the real God than he is evil, not us.
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