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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:35 PM
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need more help debunking a RW myth
I'm pretty sure this has been debunked, but have not found evidence online yet, as I'm a terrible googler.
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"As we all know, John Kerry is from Massachusetts. And, in case you need reminding, two of the planes hijacked on 9/11 originated from Logan International Airport, in Boston, Massachusetts. Here is the interesting part: On May 7, 2001, Brian Sullivan, a special agent for the Federal Aviation Administration (who has since retired) warned Kerry of the likelihood of a hijacking and the ease with which one could occur.

Sullivan attempted to bring Kerry's attention to a news broadcast exposing security weaknesses at Logan. Sullivan included a letter detailing FAA failures and the threat they cause for the American people-and attempt by the FAA to prevent this information from coming to light. "The FAA does everything it can to prevent news reports of this nature under the guise of it being a public safety issue...Think what the result would be of a coordinated attack which took down several domestic flights on the same day. Considering the current threats, it is almost likely."

Kerry, in a reply to Sullivan, seemed indifferent to the warnings of possible attacks. In the return letter, Kerry informed Sullivan that the tape of the news program had been forwarded to the Department of Transportation, and asked that the Office of Inspector General report back to his staff when conclusions were made. This report came too late.

Steve Elson, also an FAA security specialist, gave Kerry another warning. In June of 2001, Elson informed Jamie Wise, a Kerry staffer, of the possibility of attacks, but was turned away because he was not one of Kerry's constituents. It isn't clear if Elson's concerns ever reached the Senator.

These frightening premonitions came only two months before the September 11 tragedy.

Am I saying the 9/11 is a result of Kerry's irresponsibility? No. One would be hard pressed to find any American, Senator or not, who thought that an attack the scale of 9/11 would be plausible before that fateful day. I am saying, however, Kerry had the opportunity to look into these issues further, but, because he did not take the threat seriously, allowed the warnings to slip through the cracks of bureaucracy. "<<<<
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:42 PM
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1. It says Kerry forwarded it to the Department of Transportation
What the hell was he supposed to do?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:50 PM
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4. Exactly -- the real question is...
What the hell did the Department of Transportation do about it?
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 04:34 PM
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6. He was supposed to camp out at Logan Airport
looking for suspicious looking people and then to call John Ashcroft if he didn't like the looks of someone. Could have stopped the whole thing because you know how on top of things Ashcroft was.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:43 PM
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2. no idea if the letters are real...
but if so, Kerry did the right thing. He passed info on to the FAA. A senator does not run the national flight system.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:49 PM
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3. Sullivan and Elson are obviously morons
Why not start at the FAA, the Dept. of Transporation, FBI/NSA/CIA, Air Marshalls, newspapers?

If the security at my local airport weren't up to par, why would I complain to my congressman? If I had information about the possibility of hijackings, why would I call my Senator?
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 04:33 PM
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5. Steps to debunking
1) Ask for proof of communication. Where are copies of the letters? What news broadcaset (time/channel/reporter).

2) Ask for verification of the names. Make sure John Sullivan and Steve Elson really existed at the FAA. Make sure Jamie Wise worked for Kerry as part of his senator team.

3) Make logical conclusions. Why would the FAA agents turn to a senator? Wouldn't the correct person to issue the warning be the Governor or the FBI/CIA? Why would the FAA agents, seeing that Kerry did nothing, fail to contact a) the other Mass Senator, b) other media outlets, c) The governor of Mass, d) Federal Authorities?



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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 04:46 PM
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7. Total nonsense to try to point the finger at Kerry. The events of 911....
...fell under the Federal (NeoCon) government's responsibility to protect and defend, not the state and local governments.

Kerry did the only thing he could do...forward the information to the DoT.
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