"Are Kerry and Edwards lovers?" asks Dennis Miller

[spotbird]

Further speculation on the show was about Ecstasy abuse by the candidates and rehab.

[AlCzervik]

1. Are you kidding?

He really is an unredeemable asswad.

[spotbird]

20. No, he was pretending that he was "just kidding"

So he doesn't have to defend himself, but Whoopi does.

[AlCzervik]

21. He strikes me as passive aggressive

like if he was pissed at you he wouldn't say it but then he go slash your tires. He is a sad little man.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

112. Did he say that Whoopi has to?

[Liberal Veteran]

A mind is a terrible thing to waste, Dennis.

And sadly I used to think you had one.

[salinen]

The entire republican party

makes me nostalgic for the sandbox.

[NMDemDist2]

2. that is a RW talking point today, I heard it on two different AM stations

too


Pretty freaking desperate isn't it?

[salinen]

8. Looking French is better

than acting Taliban.

[mermaid]

28. Hey, Now There's a GREAT fucking bumper sticker!!! n/t

n/t

[salinen]

37. Yeah

Good idea MM.

[Generator]

11. This is all they've freaking got!

The Dem ticket are homosexuals ( I imagine Stuart Smiley sayin it) and the Terrorists love the Dems!

Which is pretty funny considering we are the party of HOMOSEXUALS and women's rights and all.

[MidwestMomma]

55. Someone at my work said Rush L was saying the same thing

How they are all touching each other, etc..

Extremely desparate...

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

71. Come on now.

Don't you know Rush was Ned Beatty's body double for the rape scene in the movie Deliverance?

[Hubert Flottz]

73. Rush still squeals like a pig to this day!

And his Hero, Wimp II, still squeals like a cheerleader!

[delete_bush]

108. thanks for solving the mystery

I always thought that "Ned" was enjoying it just a little too much!

Probably where Oxy got his ass boil which delivered him from going to the Nam.

[ikojo]

90. Yeah I heard the same accusation on the very right-wing

WGNU AM 920 in St Louis. This radio station has all local hosts who basically pay for their own show by hustling advertisers. The RW host on the Friday morning 10AM show was talking about how often Kerry and Edwards touch one another. Like it's a crime for men to be affectionate with one another. Oy! What do these folks think about baseball and football players who grab one another all the time?

Can't attack the arguments so the pugs stick to the personal attacks. Since they know homophobia sells in America, especially in places like Missouri, they will use it.

[sendero]

3. No...

.... but it's clear that you and Ollie North would be if you only had a penis.

[kikiek]

4. That crap will turn people off. Of course he doesn't have anyone

watching his show to turn it off so he doesn't care.

[Jade Fox]

99. Yes, it will turn people off because its so absurd....

These right-wingers think everyone is as small-minded, stupid, and yes,
homophobic as they are. And did I mention petty? Oh, and desperate.

[Raster]

5. miller is an asshole of the first order and the court jester...

...to the Avignon pResidency. His day will come.

[aquart]

26. Avignon presidency.

If only the real President was also ruling.

[Raster]

60. true. time will come.

[Kanary]

6. I don't need Dennis Miller to supply outrage

The Dems are doing a good enough job in that arena, thankyouverymuch.....

Kanary

[Liberal Veteran]

10. Meaning what, pray tell?

:eyes:

[Career Prole]

35. I believe he means we shouldn't be angry.

I was scolded last night for being angry to the point of hitting "ignore". I'm going to be angry for a while. I "turned the other cheek" until I got a stiff neck and all it got me was bush. I've decided it's much too dangerous these days to turn either cheek.
And Dennis Miller can bite me.

[Kanary]

49. IN the first place, it's "She"

In the second place, if you knew me, you'd know that there is no way I'd tell *anyone* what to feel or not feel. I know that's a great passtime here at DU... to tell people what emotions are allowed, but that's not my schtick.

I'm actually ENRAGED at the Dems today who spoke in support of the war, regardless of whether the "intel was good".

They don't speak for me anymore than * does.

I'm just an old-fashioned Dem who DOESN"T WANT WAR.

Kanary

[Career Prole]

57. I'm sorry...

...that I prejudged on both counts. :)
I checked, and your profile said undeclared. Usually in that case I'll go with the gender-neutral pronouns, but...aahhh, I have no excuse. I don't know why I picked "he" this time.
And your post gave me the impression that you felt Dems were too outraged. Still does, but I'll take your word for it that I misread it because who would know better than you what you meant?
Still friends? I'll buy you a beer. :)

[Kanary]

69. ^_^

:hi:

Pooh, not to worry. I've guessed wrong many times, too. :) No biggie.

No, for me, the Dems aren't enraged ENOUGH. :)

"Still does, but I'll take your
word for it that I misread it because who would know better than you what you meant?"

:thumbsup: Now, *that's* what I needed to hear! Thanks!

You mean what I know............ :)

Sorry, I can't stand the taste of beer. Tell ya what...... you have the beer, I'll have a Dubonet..... how's that?

:toast:

Kanary, still friends....... :hi:

[Career Prole]

72. I mean whatcha know! :-D

Dubonet it is! :pals:

[Andromeda]

19. What the hell does that mean?

.

[muchacho]

7. c'mon Dennis

get out of the closet!

[still_one]

Miller will get his

this will be the last gig he will do

CNBC is losing their ass. His ratings are so dismal it is pathetic

Maybe him an zell miller are lovers?

[BlackVelvetElvis]

9. This must be the lastest RW talking points.

First Drudge, then Novak and now Miller.
Closet cases.

[salonghorn70]

25. I Heard It Yesterday From A Local Guy

The lead in to his next segment before a commercial was "Are Kerry and Edwards romantically involved?" I didn't get to hear the answer.

[liveoaktx]

12. Ratings in the toilet-has to pay audience members to come

Pitiable.

[Q3JR4]

13. Is this the only thing they can come up with?

Makes me wonder just how far they plan to push this "gay thing" this election. I freakin' hope that it blows up in their face.

[Fenris]

14. Are he and Saddam?

[Cheneys_former_heart]

17. No, Miller sexually abuses the poor monkey

He's just that sick.

[salinen]

18. Hey, Saddam is a virile hetero

does that make him more honorable than homos?

[Amaya]

15. One more reason I don't have cable

Dennis the blowhard

[SHRED]

16. DM is an arrogant...

...pompass asshole.
Very unfunny too.

He talks so smug as if he is uttering something of substance when he really is just muttering like a coke crazed ego maniac.

[jbane]

89. DM and Rush both ...

DM and Rush both began their fall from grace after disasterous flameouts on sports shows. Limbaugh could take him in and they could just sit around and blame Clinton for everything...that way they wouldn't have to come up with any new material.

[lanparty]

114. His smugness is undeserved ...

All he does is bring up obscure pieces of knowledge that he's picked up and tries to browbeat people because they don't know it.

Anybody has an expertise, they can start speiling off detailed knowledge of their field and impune Miller's intelligence because he didn't happen to know it.

Miller is an asshole, pure and simple. He's pulled off the whole "intelligent" routine for too long. I don't think he has any intelligence at all. In fact, I think he doth protest too much. I think he's a person of LOW intelligence who is overcompensating.

[MrSlayer]

22. I heard a few of the Right Wing shills saying this stuff.

Limbaugh was saying they are hugging and kissing each other all the time and kept noting that they are the most pro-gay ticket ever so maybe they are trying to tell us something. There is another idiot who comes on before him who's name escapes me but he was even more vile about it. He said "I heard the Kerry ticket is branching out from ketchup, they are now packing fudge." Glen something his name is. Apparently this has become a talking point. These guys really hit below the belt.

[salonghorn70]

27. Let Me Try To Understand This

Kerry and Edwards are both married with lots of kids. Let me see now, Rush.......

[spotbird]

30. LOL.....

Rush likes women that's why he calls them Nazis.

Wouldn't you have liked to be one of his ex-wives?

[mermaid]

32. WHAT?!!?!?

Quote from Above: "He said 'I heard the Kerry ticket is branching out from ketchup, they are now packing fudge.'"

Tell me this is a joke. They didn't really SAY that, did they??

:wtf:

Please tell me they don't think all Presidential candidates have to be crotchety old farts, facists and assholes!!

[MrSlayer]

36. Yeah the guy really did say it.

Glen Beck is his name.

[realisticphish]

62. good lord

I hate Glenn Beck. When I was training for my current job, which requires a lot of driving, the guy training me listened to his show for about 2.5 hours a day. It made me want to puke, like Rush Limbaugh only more crude

[LizW]

93. That's unbelievable

Was this on television? If so, I think we have our response to the Repugs' whining about the insults and language at the Kerry fundraiser.

In fact, someone could compile a whole tape of vile right-winger bigoted comments and have it on standby to show immediately when the fundraiser tape is shown.

[NMDemDist2]

42. i'd complain to the FCC on the "packing fudge" comment

that is entirely over the top

[MrSlayer]

46. Howard Stern didn't say it so they won't care.

They would never go against one of their own.

[spotbird]

86. Absolutely someone who heard it should complain.

This is the same weapon they use, turn about is fair play. It is also possible that it will expose the underbelly of the right to some less aware * supporters.

[Ann Arbor Dem]

23. For pete's sake....he's an ass and should have shut up a long time ago.

The sad thing is that Miller thinks he is funny.

:puke:

[NMDemDist2]

44. no, the really sad thing is I'm old enough to remember when Miller

WAS funny

:(

[Ann Arbor Dem]

98. Good point....

I should have said that Miller thinks he's still funny.

Edit: typo

[Lex]

24. The wingnuts can't find evidence that Kerry or Edwards have girlfriends

on the side or have "gennifer flowers" -type problems lingering in their background, combined with the fact they are handsome guys
and

VIOLA!

They must be gay.

The rightwing is full of fucking homophobic, xenophobic assholes.

[riverwalker]

29. pathetic

they can't spread rumors of infidelity, drugs or vices---Edwards and Kerry are so squeaky clean, so THIS is all they can come up with. Rove is appealing to his base: homophobic, insecure, sexually frustrated cowards who drool at torture reports, and cheer at bombing children. They want every detail of Laci Petersons murder, but don't want to know how many soldiers have died.

[james_laid]

31. He was never funny

It amazes me how he still keeps getting chances on new shows. 

[pnorman]

33. "Are Dubya and Babs lovers?"

There was a report from that part of Texas some years back, of the uncovering of a secret Mother-Swapping Club. Several prominent citizens were obliged to suddenly leave town. Was Dubya one of them? Enquiring minds want to know.

pnorman

[spotbird]

40. Man alive, mother swapping?

This could be big.

[ItsThePeopleStupid]

58. classic homophobic response. n/t

[fairfaxvadem]

34. Why yes, they are Lovers of America

What an ass. I can't stand that guy.

I've pretty much ceased watching all of those crap shows. Can't take it.

[bacchant]

102. Funny, I opened this thread to post those very words

well done

[Warren DeMontague]

38. My Response:

[annxburns]

39. Don't worry ....

... John handled it perfectly today by making a joke out of it. He referred to Leno's bit and then said " I think we make a cute couple"

I've heard that this is TOTALLY backfiring. Let's face it - most of the media are whores but they also have gay friends. And even middle america thinks this is just stupid, juvenile and trash talk. Gay baiting, especially two married men, is the lowest of the low. Even Drudge has removed it now ....

[October]

41. Bush & Cheney were the ones holding hands

to testify before the 9/11 Commission.

[donhakman]

43. =

[NashVegas]

45. Keep It Up, Bro

Maybe if we're lucky they'll turn it into a NY Post headline.

Rope.

[spotbird]

52. Stranger things have happened.....

but not many.

We can keep fighting the good fight, even if it's a loser.

[spotbird]

54. Stranger things have happened.....

but not many.

We can keep fighting the good fight, even if it's a loser.

[CrispyQ]

47. Dennis is just upset cuz he wants to do 'em.

I used to like DM. What the hell happened to him?

[drscm]

48. DM's head + *Bush's @ss = Sodomy. eom

eom

[alphafemale]

50. Being called homosexual should not be regarded as an insult.

It's a biological trait.

Kerry should shrug it of with something along the lines of "It has no more bearing than if they said was 5' 8", there's nothing wrong with being 5' 8" but I'm not 5' 8".

"NO person should ever feel deemed as an object of derision because of the shape their unique human form has taken.

"Being labled a homosexual, as a means political insult, should be as rejected as calling someone a N lover.

"We are better than that, America. You know we are."

Something like that.

[spotbird]

56. Kerry did not shrug it , he embraced it.

Today they laughed at the "insult" which diminished those bringing it further.

[2bfree]

51. He sounds like he is still in Jr. High.........

If you can't think of a good come back you call someone gay. I would have thought that we were more evolved than that.

[BlackVelvetElvis]

53. Gawd. Now their discussing it on Greta's show on Fox.

Rich Lowery: "I just think it's WEIRD".

[spotbird]

63. How much did Gretta's soul cost? nt

[Kool Kitty]

68. Oh, Rich Lowry.

What a horse's ass he is. What are they referring to, why is this a talking point? Because they are good-looking and they smile? I don't get this.

[Beam Me Up]

59. Wasn't there a threat from some on the Left to out the Right?

I wasn't paying close attention but seems I glimpsed some post subject to that effect.

Could be this whoe "J/J are lovers" crap is preemptive?

[spotbird]

64. Man, those guys must have switched teams quickly!

Edwards, the devoted, faithful monogamous husband through thick and thin. Kerry the rabid heterosexual during his single years.

Who would have thought that these guys would find each other and immediately abandon the hetro lives they have lived for all these many years? And give it all up to out themselves so publicly?

[Guaranteed]

61. Someday someone's going to bring out Miller's anti-religious rants and

absolutely DESTROY him.

It's on one of his one-hour comedy bits from the late 80's/early 90's, either "Black and White" or "Live in Washington," something like that. He goes on a huge rant about how people who believe in Jesus are just the stupidest people on Earth.

Someone oughta go on his show and ambush him with THAT one. Watch his .1 share go down to .001.

[nightperson]

74. A younger Miller on the "Deep South":

"To be frank, I find those people anything but deep." On Alabama: "Talk about Darwin's waiting room." Or on West Virginia: "It makes Mayberry look like a think tank." I remember from his old White Album a rant about mispronouncing "nuclear" like our current President now does, along the lines of "you shouldn't be allowed to vote on this shit unless you can fucking pronounce it!".

[delete_bush]

111. it's too bad we don't have

any nationally syndicated AM talk radio programs that could play this stuff over and over again, like the pukes do.

Any advertisers listening? I would go out of my way to support any business placing ads on such a program.

[Obamarama]

65. No, but Dennis Miller is an ASSHOLE.

n/t

[Raiden]

66. A Right-Wing Hairy Palm Fantasy???

I think this is more than Junior High trash-talk. It seems to me as though both Rush & DM actually have a man-crush on the pretty-boy John Edwards and have projected thier fascination into a giant fantasy world wherein a political frienship between John Edwards and John Kerry is somehow something more, a sexual relationship if you will. Nothing to see here, just masturbation material for right wing closet cases. :crazy: Kinda like when young boys pick on girls because that's the only way they can express their feelings. It really isn't a stretch to think that the same can happen with severely repressed repuglicans.

I seriously can't believe that this is the best they've got, it's really very sad and immature and it will probably backfire.

[Still_Loves_John]

67. I think it's a great sign

It shows how terrified the right is of the chemistry between these two. And when they use the joke themselves, they strip it of all it's vitrol. If they can laugh it off, anyone that hears them laughs it off too, and anyone who is seriously ranting about it (ha, I wasn't even thinking of Dennis Miller when I wrote that) just looks stupid.

Basically what I'm trying to say that when Kerry references the joke, he becomes in on it, and it becomes a "laughing with him" situation instead of a "laughing at him" one, so it's strength as a weapon is lost.

[Nikki Stone 1]

70. This goes along with Drudge's picture and the "seconds" comment on Monday

Yep. It's an RNC talking point. And it's the strategy. Throw around homoeroticism; then no one will pay attention to the Iraq fiasco, the economy, or anything else.

And of course it's silly. It sounds like the 9th graders I used to teach years ago. Looks like the RNC needs to treat their acne and grow a few inches.

[Manix]

75. ....absolutely!!.....Distract, Distract, Distract till Nov 2....here we go

[Concordance]

76. To be honest...

To be honest, all the hugging, obviously almost always initiated by Kerry, is little pathetic. Kerry is just screaming.. "I am with him!! Really, we's good buddies!". Hah. Kerry looks like hes trying to rub some of that charm off Edwards onto himself.

[Bridget Burke]

79. So, you seem a bit obsessed, yourself.

Men touching men, oh my!

Perhaps you need a hobby.

[Concordance]

81. Well you got to be blind not to see it...

Well you got to be blind not to see it. In fact Edwards looked quite uncomfortable, and few times he looked like he was running away from Kerry. Really pathetic of Kerry. Too eager. Too desperate. Way too desperate. At least from what I saw last night, and tonight as well, on the news that is.

[West Coast Democrat]

120. Good Grief! Now I've heard it all!!

Republicans are really outdoing themselves this year.

[lanparty]

115. Professional Wrestling ...

Yeah, I think those guys are bull queers too!!!

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

82. All the male politicians do that, though

They are all always hugging and patting each other and everybody else. Politicians are like that.

[Concordance]

97. yup, but...

Yeah, that's true, but Kerry was excessive. Very obvious. It's desperation alright. Kerry is just screaming, "Lookit meee!!! He's wit me!! Whooo!". Hilarious. Well, sad really.

[spotbird]

103. What is obvious is that the Republicans are desperate beyond

belief to circulate this talking point. There was nothing at all unusual about the Kerry/Edwards appearances, this issue is totally contrived by some pathetic characters. To agree that there is anything at all to the charge speaks loudly to one's perspective.

Someone here said this attack is actually good news for the Democrats since it shows the * team's absence of anything real to run on, that is certainly true, IMO.

[NYCGirl]

101. What do you think about this loving couple?

Look at them holding hands. Awww.....

[Concordance]

104. He's holding hands?

He's holding hands with an Arab? This is a crime? While somewhat "weird", I don't exactly know the Saudi customs. Or is holding hands with Muslims abhorrent to you?

[NYCGirl]

106. You're the one who has problems with men touching each other... (eom)

NT

[Concordance]

107. No problem....

It just reeks of desperation when Kerry does it in such an obvious way.

Anyways, you haven't answered. I repeat. He's holding hands with an Arab? This is a crime? While somewhat "weird", I don't exactly know the Saudi customs. Or is holding hands with Muslims abhorrent to you?

[NYCGirl]

110. No, it's not abhorrent to me...

but I'm pointing out that it only seems that some people (like Dennis Miller and all the media talking heads) have trouble with men touching when the Democrats do it.

I don't see Drudge or any of them wondering "what's up with that?" when Bush holds hands with his Saudi friends or touches his nanny, Dick Cheney.

OK?

[Piperay]

118. Hmmmm why is it desperation on

Kerry's part but not on chimp's?? This reeks of hypocrisy.

[Solly Mack]

77. Dennis Miller's head is wedged so far up his own ass

how can he comment on anything?

[flutter by]

78. Denny Boy

I like the sound of that. Denny Boy. Help me spread it around. Denny Boy. What a turd. Denny Boy. Say it again. Denny Boy. Has a nice ring to it. Denny Boy. Denny Boy. Denny Boy. :evilgrin:

[UdoKier]

80. Damn. Both of his viewers will vote GOP for sure now...

Oh, well. There's always the Graham Norton Effect...

[Brian_Expat]

83. So what if they were?

That's the right answer to such bullshit. Just call them on it.

[0007]

84. I tuned into his show the other night for a few minutes

and that was as long as I could take it before moving on. Dennis Miller and his audience are paid shills and are so insipid I have no idea who'd want to watch this crap! I don't think hard core right wingers could even be happy with Dennis.

[kikiek]

85. This guy is just baiting supporters of Kerry/Edwards. He is like the

kid on the losing team that taunts the winners because he wants them to feel as mad as he does. Don't even bother responding. Unfortunately I fear that after Bush loses this will carry over into the new administration. I wonder how we will be able to pull the country out of its downward spiral when the game of politics is only about winning. It's no longer what is best for our country.

[liveoaktx]

87. Let's interrupt * From his dancing and ask him what he thinks

[Shopaholic]

88. Don't worry about it--it's not like anyone watches his show

his ratings are consistently at the bottom of the TV ratings barrel.

[vetwife]

91. How could they even ask...with this..click link and see Bush/Blair

http://www.zen15631.zen.co.uk/bb.mpg

[liveoaktx]

94. Bwahahahaha-forgot that one, what a hoot!

Looks like maybe Bush the Cowboy was waiting to get some payback on SOMEONE, ANYONE....

[Hubert Flottz]

92. Unlike the NeoKons................................................

Kerry and Edwards ARE lovers! Yes Edwards and Kerry love democracy! They love liberty and freedom! They loved the way America was before 2000! Back when people around the world respected America and our word was our bond! The GOPers are so consumed by HATRED and Greed that they have made loving America an Evil thing too now!

The NeoKons love only money and more power and they don't understand patriotism and loving their country, like the people who framed the Constitution loved America! The NeoKons don't think that they should be ruled by our rule of law, like the other 99% of America is! The Kons think that they should not pay their fair share taxes like 'We the People' do, but they feel like they are entitled to reap 48% of our wealth and claim ALL the GLORY! The Cons don't know about Americans loving their country enough to die for it, because none of them ever came close to fighting or dying for the love of their country! The NeoKons had better, more important things to do when the chips were down!

I am still seething, because of the disrespect and contempt that "Wild Eyed" Dick Cheney displayed on the floor of the US Senate! I only wish, hope and pray that VP Cheney's remark on the Senate floor, will be made part of the record, so that history will show his perverted Fake brand of love, respect and compassion toward the representatives of the people and in one of the highest institutions of and for the people!

If Bush and Cheney LOVED America they wouldn't steal from it and weaken it in a time of war! If they LOVED America the NeoCons wouldn't give vast amounts of our treasury away to buy still another election and to void our right to vote again!

If loving America is wrong, I don't want to be right!

[Mr.Green93]

95. so what? if they are

[sandraj]

96. Miller and the rest of them

are doing this because their man Bush has absolutely nothing at all of substance to run his campaign on. They're trying to keep people distracted with non-issues to disrupt Kerry's campaign.

They're using a multi-front approach: if the slurs don't work, broadcast a terror alert. If the terror alert doesn't work, tell everyone how close they are to finding Osama. If that doesn't work, invent some new slurs and personal attacks, etc. etc.

I think we're in for a bizarre campaign season. Kerry's going to keep talking about the issues while Bush and all of his clowns and goons are going to try very hard distract from them.

[Astarho]

100. the dumbing down of America

make sure everyone thinks and acts at a junior high level.

"Two guys together! They must be gay!" :eyes:

[Fozzledick]

105. Are Dennis Miller and his right hand lovers?

Don't you just love rhetorical questions ?:evilgrin:

[onecitizen]

109. They are sooooo jealous of these two guys......

it's comical. All I can say is they'd have beautiful children!

Look, K&E are everything they aren't. Handsome, smart and rich!

[lanparty]

113. Hey Dennis ...

Phil Danahue got much better ratings than your sorry ass on your sorry network.

Go Cheney yourself, you Cheney for Brains!!!!!

[Piperay]

116. Repukes pulled that same kind of shit

when Clinton and Gore ran in 1992. At the repuke convention they had some kind of obscene buttons (with drawings) alluding to Clinton and Gore being lovers, they are a sick evil bunch. :evilfrown:


Note: I am not suggesting there is anything obscene, sick or evil about being Gay but the repukes use that allegation in a sick evil way, showing themselves to be truly evil and sick.

[The_Casual_Observer]

117. Dennis Miller Isn't funny

Dennis Miller's stream of consciousness-kooky-bordering-on-"insane" signature comic "method" is so stale, 80's, predictable and boring that I believe that he must be paying them to keep him on cable. Why anybody would waste time tuning him in is beyond belief.

[West Coast Democrat]

119. It's like that old saying---when a bear farts in the woods....

No one watches his show anyway...and it's no wonder