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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:29 PM
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Can anyone help us find our Mom and Dad in South Carolina?
They are vacationing for the weekend, they are recently retired and they threw away the cell phone. We have a family crisis, an emergency, Mom's sister is dead, suddenly and unexpectedly. We can't find them, is there anyone here that can help?
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:31 PM
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1. Do you know what town they're in?
You can try the police department there. That's how I found my inlaws after my husband died.

I'm so sorry for what you're going through.:hug:
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:33 PM
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4. No, all we know is they are supposed to be on the coast somewhere.
This is so not good! Thank you for caring.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:34 PM
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6. Try the state patrol there
Hopefully some SC DUers can help you out more. I'm thinking about you - please keep us posted.:hug:
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:30 AM
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151. ALL I WANT TO SAY IS I AM SO SORRY FOR THIS THREAD!
MODS, PLEASE KILL IT!

I am sorry for the hate that came out, we appreciate the love and once again we are so sorry for ever having asked for help.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:32 PM
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2. Report them missing to the SC police and explain the circumstances...

or maybe report their car stolen. It looks kind of suspicious to me. Call local radio stations and explain the situation.

d

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:27 AM
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149. it's against the law to file false police reports-
some suggestions are just plain stupid on their face- like that one.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:32 PM
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3. Call the State Police....
If you know their plate numbers, and if they are out of state, they can keep a look out. Better yet if you know where in the state they were going to stay.

This happened in our family about 10 years ago. Nobody goes anywhere without leaving an itinerary now.

Good luck!
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:33 PM
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5. kick
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:34 PM
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7. Actually, the State Highway patrol can coordinate efforts with this.
If you have their car info (make, model, license number) that will help.

If you don't have the license number, they can probably get it from your state DMV through their law enforcement coordination. They will keep an eye out for the car (actively, not passively).

They are wonderful with this kind of thing. Every state I've ever had to deal with, and we've had it happen acouple of times.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:59 PM
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55. LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They don't help for a minute!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:38 PM
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8. I'll contact some missing person groups I belong to...

well get back to you if I get more infor or ideas.

Calling local radio stations (maybe TV also) is probably the best idea in my opinion. LE can help, but mass media is always the best,

d

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:41 PM
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10. I just posted below...
.. while it's terribly unexpected and tragic in this family loss, wouldn't putting this out onto radio, etc. be rather frightening for these people? I just was wondering if there is something critical that the parents need to do in the next day or two, that cannot wait until they return or check in.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:54 PM
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12. depends on how it's done...

they announce things like this at airports and ball games all the time and just ask them to pick up the courtesy phone or call home,

d

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:39 PM
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9. I'm sorry for your loss.. a question..
I don't mean to sound too pragmatic. But.. unless the sister's passing left behind small children that need to be cared for, and your parents are only gone for the weekend, perhaps your family is bringing even more stress upon themselves trying to find them this way. If they are returning tomorrow, or Monday, is it crucial to track them down right now? What is it they need to do before then? It just seems as though trying to find them this way is adding to the crisis situation.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:45 PM
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22. Pragmaticism aside. The loss of this sister is going to devestate my
mother-in-law. We are not trying to bring more stress, we are trying desperately to stop the stress. And I do appreciate your take on this. We have to find Mom. Just imagine for yourself, okay. Your brother dies, you are on vacation, unreachable, on a beach somewhere. He is dead, do you want to know right away or when you get home on Monday, and please, this is your last, close living relative? I will refrain from making the remarks I want to make to you.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:35 PM
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28. Honestly?
"...do you want to know right away or when you get home on Monday..."

I'd rather have what remains of my vacation undisturbed. Before you get too excited, there's a perfectly good rationale here.

First, my brother isn't getting any more dead. He'll be just as dead in 48 hours when I get home.

If he were in the process of dying, and by rushing home I might be able to look into his eyes one last time and hold his hand, and share some final words, then that would be different. Yes, I'd definately want to know in that case.

Different families handle things differently, I think. Your family's way is totally valid, but my family wouldn't even wake me up to tell me news like this. We'd figure you need your rest to cope with the grief that's coming soon enough, and the person is just as dead at 8:00 AM as they are at 2:00 AM.

Also, I think this is why you're not getting help from the authorities you've contacted. They're set up to handle emergencies, but you don't have an actual emergency for them to help you with. In an actual emergency, action can be taken that has an affect on the outcome.

You have my sympathy for your family's loss. It sounds like your mother-in-law is really going to need you when she gets home.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:32 PM
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40. I'm sorry that you feel so violently toward me..
.. I was trying to save your family some added stress. Yes, I would like to know... but I would probably collapse if I heard on the radio or t.v. that my family was desperately trying to find me. While i think it's important for them to know about this... there is nothing they can do right now.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:18 PM
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68. actually- they usually don't broadcast/print the die-ee's name...
until the next of kin have been notified.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:13 PM
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65. I vote: Wait until monday.
unless you derive some kind of sadistic pleasure in upsetting your mother and trashing her vacation weekend- in that case- go for it!
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:43 PM
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11. SC HP
Contact us:
803-896-7920

Emergency Only:
1-800-768-1501

James K. Schweitzer,
Director
http://www.schp.org/
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:17 PM
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14. I'm on the phone with them now and they can not help. Thanks anyway!
And here is to "HOMELAND SECURITY"! WE CAN'T FIND ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!11
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:01 PM
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13. All I have to say is we have been refused help from every direction.
Homeland security and we know how to find you is absolute bullshit!

I am so sorry for all of this, I am really sorry for resorting to DU for help. Nothing is working. But know this, "Homeland Security" is nothing but a farce!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:25 PM
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16. Did you try radio and tv stations like I suggested?

d
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:21 PM
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15. We quit, we give up and we are through. Thank DU'ers for caring and your
support.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:26 PM
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17. I'm sorry.
Had hoped the SCHP would be able to help. Guess I watch too many movies.

When are your parents expected home? Are they just gone for the weekend? Horrible news to come home to. I'm so sorry for your family's loss. :hugs:
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:31 PM
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20. From Maine, "Ayayah".................
and oh, well and thank you so much to DU'ers that cared. This was a lesson for us we needed to learn. Homeland Security is nothing but bullshit
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TeacherCreature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:58 PM
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82. I don't think finding your parents in this situation is the job
of homeland security.

Though it is bullshit, you are right about that.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:28 PM
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18. So sorry for the loss. I wish we could help.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:48 PM
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47. So sorry Anarchy! I have lots of connections in SC
I will try to help you out tomorrow. I just this minute got in from Florida, myself, so not much help tonight. But I will make some calls to some relatives in the morning and see if they have ideas.
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:33 PM
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73. If you could get the tv stations to announce that everyone visiting
from such and such a state on the SC coast needs to contact home for an emergency message ? That assumes they watch a little local news while they are there. I generally watch the 11 oclock news wherever i am visiting. Just out of curiosity about the area as much as anything.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:28 PM
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19. jesus anarchy...! Im here for you I wish I could help n/t
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:37 PM
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21. Mari, it is okay.
Just a disappointment that all those people there to help us, really are not. But hey, we knew it already, didn't we!.

We'll get through it. We just need to find dave's mom. It is really reassuring to know we can't and don't need to count on our government for one damned thing.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:47 PM
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23. Do you know what bank they use??
Call that bank, explain the situation, and ask them if they would be kind enough to look up their most recent credit card transactions.

You will need one of their Social security #'s for this.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:54 PM
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24. Contact The Sun News in Myrtle Beach. If your parents are in a 50m.
stretch, that would be the paper. Chances are they are somewhere around there. Pawley's Island, Sullivan's Island, Hilton Head are the most popular areas south of Myrtle Beach.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:03 PM
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25. red cross is good at this...

some replies from the missing person groups so far:

>
> > Hi Dave
> > here is a link to the Red Cross list. They
> have email addy's and
> > this is just the sort of
> > thing they do.
> >
> > Hope it helps
> > J
> > http://www.redcross.org/where/chapts.html
> >
>


Also:

> >Do they know WHERE in SC the grandparents are?
> Maybe calling the local pd
> >or if they know where they are staying (hotel,
> campground etc), the number
> >can be looked up on www.switchboard.com
>
>
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:08 PM
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:27 PM
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27. How..............thoughtful..........
:eyes:

:thumbsdown:
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:02 PM
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31. i just don't see the "emergency" in the situation.
do you?
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:06 PM
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33. just because you don't see it....

don't mean there ain't none. Some folks don't think getting Bush out of office is an emergency...

d


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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:12 PM
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36. well if there's such an actual emergency-
why doesn't she bother to mention what it is?

does her aunt need an emergency transfusion from her mother, in order to make her a little less dead, or something...?
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:33 PM
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41. Why should they have to mention it???

what if it's personal and none of our business?

All they were asking for was suggestions and help,

d

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:40 PM
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44. well i suggest-
that anarchy 1999 not spoil her parents vacation weekend with bad news.
auntie won't be any more or less dead when they return- so why jump thru hoops tracking them down- just to bum them out???

it makes absolutely no sense to me.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:49 PM
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48. of course it doesn't make any sense to you...

you are not anarchy 1999 and you are not privy to everything they know.

d

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:41 PM
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117. Hey Beaker that's so far over the line

"does her aunt need an emergency transfusion from her mother, in order to make her a little less dead, or something"...?

What's your Damage.

That is without a doubt the most crass & unnecessary piece of shit post

I have ever read in my 2 years here.

If you have an ounce of class you will apologies
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:45 PM
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121. not to nit-pick....
but the word is "apologize", NOT "apologies"...

:eyes:
sheeeeesh.....
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:30 PM
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38. What you or I see is immaterial.
Having empathy for another person is what we're on earth for.

This forum is full of so much criticism, but when people criticize when someone has just had a death in the family, that is beyond the pale.

"Do unto others........"

Kanary
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:37 PM
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42. "Having empathy for another person is what we're on earth for..."
where does a goofy idea like that come from?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:40 PM
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43. No one criticized the grieving family..
.. they were simply trying to help them get a hold of themselves.. and realize that, as the various agencies have told them, there is not an emergency. It's a tragedy, and a loss.. but trying to inform someone on vacation, who has left no way to be contacted, that there was a death in the family, is not considered an "emergency". If anything, those that are trying to help Anarchy calm down about trying to contact them, are actually doing the family a favor. I would MUCH rather my parents drive home safely, and leisurely from vacation.. then to travel upset, distraught, and hurried. There is nothing for the parents to do at this point.. but grieve. Yes, they will wish they had been able to have been told right away... but they left no way to be reached. Better to comfort those that can be reached now, and prepare to inform the parents gently when they return.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:45 PM
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46. exactly.
it's the kind of news that should wait for a face-to-face.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:55 PM
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51. either way...

their vacation is ruined.

how does waiting until the vacation is ended make it easier? Why is it so important that you know what the "emergency" is before you help?

d

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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:08 PM
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you've never been on vacation...

and came back to hear bad news have you?

d

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:10 PM
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64. yes i have.
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 10:13 PM by Beaker
but it certainly didn't diminish the fun i was having, while i was having it, now did it?

you can't retroactively ruin a pleasant vacation- the past is past.


and dead is dead.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:26 PM
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69. my grandmother died when our family was on vacation-
and guess what-

she was just as dead when we got home, my dad's brother & sister and their families had already taken care of the "difficult" stuff, making it that much easier on him.

another time- we got home from a day at the mall(this was back in 1969), only to find out that my grandmother on my mother's side, who was living with us at the time, had died of a heart attack while we were gone...I'll never forget the pain in my mom's face as she threw her ice cream cone(we had just stopped to get them) to the ground and completely broke down.

you sure are a bad judge of liars- I sure hope you never end up on a jury
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:52 PM
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78. do you even know what you asked?
you've never been on vacation...and came back to hear bad news have you?

I truthfully answer "yes", and you call me a liar because it was my grandmother who died, and not my sister?

but then- i don't really know how you feel about your grandmother...maybe you won't think it's such a bad thing when she's rotting in the grave...maybe you'll even do cartwheels-

but for me, I consider coming home to find out my grandmother has died to qualify as "bad news".

btw- if you were gone for the weekend, and your stepmom dies- why would you want to know before you arrived back home? to what end?




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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:59 PM
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83. yes i do...

and I got my answer by how you expressed no empathy.

The end would have been that I came home immediately to help comfort my Dad and my Stepmoms relatives. If you understood empathy you would have known the answer to that without asking.

To this day, I don't remember that vacation as a good time, but as the time my stepmom died. It has been tainted by my knowing that my dad was unhappy.

I could always go on another vacation another time. I have that option because I didn't die.

d

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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:16 PM
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94. Who knows more about her mom and dad?

you or anarchy1999? Anyone who understood empathy would understand atleast that...

...and why should anyone have to explain anything to you specifically? Especially with the way you approached the subject,

d
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:26 PM
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102. for someone who like to toss around the "empathy" ball...
you'd be a lot better served by learning it's actual meaning.

yes, she knows her mom will be distraught, so what does it accomplish by getting her all upset and distraught with no support network available?

it seems to me that anarchy1999 is being a lot more self-centered than empathetic. someone with actual empathy would wait to break the news until her mother's return.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:35 PM
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111. you're not thinking of either...

atleast anarchy1999 is thinking of her mom and dad, but all you are doing is using your own experience to justify telling someone else what to do about a death in the family. If you knew the mom and dad then your opinion would have more weight, but since you don't, I empathize more with anarchy1999 more than you. That's all i am saying,

d

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:41 PM
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116. she's OBVIOUSLY NOT thinking of her mom and dad-
or she'd wait until they got home to get them all upset and distraught-

unless of course she thinks it's a good idea for retirees to drive in that kind of mental/emotional state.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:52 PM
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125. again: she knows more about her mom and dad than you do...

and that's why your opinion comes across as callous and uncaring, because you don't know the full situation, and anarchy1999 doesn't have explain anything to you especially with your attitude, and that's all I am saying,

d





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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #125
150. exactly- and she's already said that the news will be devastating
to her mother...so the real question is-
why does she want to devestate her mother with news that will still be there, and unchanged, when she returns after the weekend?
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:31 PM
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106. Well said...
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:34 PM
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109. "...clearly honest and heart-felt "
not really- i'd describe this thread as more of a knee-jerk reaction, by someone without any real forethought...

i'd still like to hear someone explain what good will come of trying to ruin someon'es vacation weekend with news that will be no more or less terrible upon their scheduled return.
if her parents had wanted to be gotten ahold of, they would have left contact info.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:57 PM
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131.  Beaker

"what good will come of trying to ruin someone's vacation"

Your concern for their happy vacation is touching.

They may even send you a Thank You note when they return.

But in your over whelming concern for them not to be bummed out

while on vacation

Has it occurred to you that as an only surviving relative this person may want to know straight away if something like this happened
& could not give a Fuck if their vacation was interrupted because the person who has died is a lot more important to them than a Vacation &
they could very well be furious at you for not trying to get a hold off them.

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:01 AM
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134. what good does it do for them to know today, instead of tomorrow?
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 12:02 AM by Beaker
honestly-

what GOOD does it do?

is it really a GOOD thing for seniors to be driving a bit of a distance in traffic when they are quite possibly VERY distraught?

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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:57 PM
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53. actually you are criticizing...
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 09:57 PM by AmyStrange

by questioning their judgement in what is an emergency. "Well I don't see the need" is criticism,

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:45 PM
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30. Gees, that's really classy
:thumbsdown:
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:08 PM
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34. well...it's no more classy-
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than wanting to ruin your parents vacation weekend(and the drive home) with upsetting news that can just as easily wait until they get back.

and I still don't see how it qualifies as an "emergency".
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:06 PM
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32. Beaker..
Your parents should have taught you some manners.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:26 PM
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37. I agree
Your talking about a massive search for a death in the family.
It's tough for the family but in the larger seance, it can wait.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:44 PM
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45. not always...

and to assume it can wait just because you can't think of a reason it can't wait makes no sense at all,

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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:16 PM
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95. Well , the only reason mentioned
was to simply inform them. Why would it be imperative for them to know right now.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:23 PM
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100. Do these people have to write a long list of reasons?

In order get help from us who are willing to help when we can? If you don't want to help fine, but why is it imperative that you tell someone how to handle a death in the family? A death in a family you have no knowledge of? That;s all I'm saying,

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:29 PM
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104. i've been trying to help-
by telling her that it's not a very smart or kind move to drop a 'dead sister bomb' on somebody who's trying to enjoy their weekend, and can find out upon her return, with no difference in the outcome- auntie will still be dead, mom will be just as upset as if she had learned it earlier.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:37 PM
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113. not if you don't know tha family....

that's not help. It's called arrogance,

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:43 PM
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119. she came HERE asking for suggestions.
mine is just as valid as anyone else's.

and what I call arrogance is exactly what you've been displaying here...like calling people liars when their truths don't seem to satisfy you...
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:55 PM
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129. your suggestion isn't helpful...

and anarchy1999 told you so herself, but yet you keep going at it as if justifying your opiniuon is more important than helping her out,

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:07 AM
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139. i disagree-
if she'd take the time to think clearly, instead of emotionally, she'd be able to see that it makes the most sense to wait until they return-

but if you, and she, and others feel that it's the best use of public safety personnel(police, etc.) to be used for the "emergency" of tracking down two adults, just to give them some bad news that would be better left for their return-
that's just yours, hers, and their 'selfish' thinking.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:19 AM
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143. of course you disagree...

because you are not Anarchy1999 and are not qualified to tell her how to deal with a family death - ESPECIALLY since you know NOTHING about the family,

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:31 AM
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153. but then again...
"...because you are not Anarchy1999 "

pssst....neither are YOU.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:24 AM
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146. You call this trying to help.

"does her aunt need an emergency transfusion from her mother, in order to make her a little less dead, or something"...?

How did you get to this point that you think this is an ok statement

That is one Sick Twisted piece of Shit statement.

If you can't see that. Wow

Trying to help

What a fucking Joke.

are you familiar with Emotional Retardation?



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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:43 PM
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120. No
I'm asking you. I assume you have some time on your hands. Just think of one good reason. Indulge me.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:58 PM
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132. when my stepmom died...

and I was on vacation, I would liked to have known so I could be home to comfort my dad and my stepmom's family. To this day, that vacation was not a happy memory for me. All I remember of it is that stepmom died while I was on vacation. other folks have said the same thing her so it's not a totally uncommon feeling.

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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:03 PM
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59. ignore?

you mean like anarchy1999 ignores and doesn't respond to mine and many other suggestions and posters who posted here and tried to rally info and support outside of DU to help them? Why are we being ignored?

Seems to me they don't have a real emergency here and all these folks here who are wondering about that are right. Somebodies kettle is black if you want my opinion,

d

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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:08 PM
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62. How do you know that the poster is not following.........
some of the posters advice. You sound just as judgmental as the poster you were ripping into earlier.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:10 PM
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63. that's my point...

sounding just as judgemental as some of the posters. Thank you for seeing my point,

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:37 PM
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74. It is not YOUR place to decide what someone else's family would prefer!
If it were MY sister who had suddenly died, you'd best BELIEVE I'd want to know immediately! The ONLY person who has the right to judge what ought to be done in this situation is the person who IS IN IT!

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:44 PM
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76. if you were on a "weekend vacation", and your sister died-
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what good would it do for you to know "immediately", rather than upon your scheduled return?

just wondering...


i mean- would you really rather end up having to drive home in a distraught mental state, very possibly endangering your own life, and those of others on the road?

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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:52 PM
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79. what good would it be to know after?

just because YOU think it's no good... don't make it no good. You're problem is that you have no empathy and only care about how you feel and not how anyone else feels.

I get that way myself sometimes (ok maybe a lot of times) so I know how it is from your side of the wake,

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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:03 PM
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85. I call it empathy... you call it ignorant...

how do YOU know that anarchy 1999 wasn't feeling empathy towards her mom and dad and that's why she needed to contact them? Empathy means understanding how others feel. It doesn't mean projecting your own fellings onto someone else,

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:03 PM
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86. You are assuming that her fun weekend is more important
than grieving with her family and loved ones at a time when her help and presence might well be needed. Some people would even feel guilty about not being there at such an important time to their family.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:10 PM
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90. thank you...
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 11:11 PM by AmyStrange

my point exactly,

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:11 AM
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141. that's no excuse for bad grammar.
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 12:12 AM by Beaker
young lady.

(ps- i tend to totally disregard the words of those who claim to speak for "everybody").

btw- which "distraught" people have I "attacked"???

ps- I KEW you wouldn't get the irony-

BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:04 PM
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87. what good would "what" be to know after?
so...if they wait until monday to tell her...it doesn't count, or what?

I don't understand what's "good" about finding out about your sister being dead while you're gone for the weekend, as opposed to finding out when you return...
what difference does it make when you hear it, except to make you distraught when you're out of town, and have to drive back in such a state, as opposed to finding out when you return?

really- what's the difference?
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:06 PM
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88. of course you don't understand...

you don't know her mom and dad and are not qualified to make such a judgement call...
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:17 PM
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96. if her mom and dad would have wanted to be disturbed on vacation-
wouldn't they have left info as to where best to disturb them?
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:30 PM
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105. not necessarily...

that's half logic, because you don't know what the Mom and Dad's intent was. All you know is how you feel and that's it. With that limited kind of logic you are not in any position to tell someone else how to deal with a death in the family. That's all I am saying,

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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:17 PM
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97. good advice
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:21 PM
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99. Whatever.........
I bet you are a lonely person.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:25 PM
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101. no doubt...

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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:49 PM
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123. Whatever lonely boy............
You have without question demonstrated your wonderful caring nature tonight with your rude comments towards someone who has lost a family member. I hope you sleep well tonight, alone of course.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:47 PM
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77. exactly...

some folks just don't get it that not everyone wantsd what they want,

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:14 PM
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92. Who's trying to decide anything for anyone else?
Some posters have simply offered another perspective on the situation in an effort to help.

It may not be the kind of help the original post asked for, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be beneficial in some way.

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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:41 PM
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29. I know someone who has contacts in SC...

they have contacts in LE there and can make some wheels turn. All they need is a town and names and they can get things moving.

Send info via PM or:

dave@onemissingperson.org

d

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tewl Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:32 PM
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39. so sorry :(
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:56 PM
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52. DO THEY HAVE ONSTAR ON THE CAR?
Call onstar if so. BUT: please consider before you call that they will have to drive home in a horrible emotional state and that could have very, very negative consequences. Getting them home safely, especially if you fear a MAJOR reaction to this awful news, must be your first priority.

Good luck.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:58 PM
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54. Have the bank and credit card company put a flag on their accounts
So if they do a transaction, they are told "call home".

I used to work for a bank and it's possible to do it.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:02 PM
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58. If they rented a car
start calling rental car co's--most have gps now and could perhaps help.

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Suspicious Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:01 PM
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56. This happened to my best friend
during her honeymoon about 7 years ago. They were unreachable, and while her family had a vague idea of their itinerary, they did not have hotel names, numbers, etc.

Her sister had surgery and passed away (she was only 26), and the State Police were contacted and did everything in their power to try to find them. The helpfulness of State Police must vary from state to state.

I am very sorry for your family's loss, and the stress you are feeling. I remember very well how desperate we all felt when we could not locate my friend during that horrible time, so I have complete empathy.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:15 PM
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66. So sorry for your loss and stress, Anarchy
I'm sure if there was anything any of us DUer's could do, we would. I hope this all works out.

Just at thought...I used to work in the hotel business. This may or may not work and depends on if they are staying in a hotel. If you have ANY idea where they might be (pick 5 or 10 hotels within a 25 mile radius of the type that they would stay in), call and ask to speak to the MOD (manager on duty). Presuming they are not at that hotel, ask if they wouldn't mind sending a blast fax to other hotels in the area to check their guest lists. If it's not on their lists, to please fax blast to their lists or mention it during their call-arounds.

It may or may not work, depending on the MOD and person at the front desk, but it's worth a try.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:28 PM
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71. Something similar happened to my parents
They were on vacation in Europe and my wife was killed in a car accident. This was in the days before cell phones.

We were able to contact them by telegram because we had their itinerary.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:56 PM
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81. Oh God! So sorry, TrogL!!! n/t
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:59 PM
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84. All I can say is thank you all for your help. We still can't find them.
Love to you all for caring.

S & D, aka anarchy1999
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:54 PM
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127. I'm sorry for all the hate being thrown out on this thread. We really
just hoped someone here could help us find mom and dad. This is going to be a heartbreak that probably not one of us is going to be able to help in any way and for every hour that we are not able to reach them the heartbreak will just grow exponentially. Thank you all for trying to help and our family as many other family's will get through this loss. Ours is small compared to many others.

Sherry and David
aka anarchy1999

Thank you all for your thoughts, advice, your concern, your actions. We Love you all.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:56 PM
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130. why are you so intent on ruining their weekend?
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 11:56 PM by Beaker
and why do you feel it warrants being called "an emergency".?

I certainly wouldn't want to get my retiree parents all distraught and upset for no good reason, especially when they have a bit of a drive home in front of them, and the depressing news will be unchanged by waiting for them to get home to break it to them.

but then again, that's just the empath in me speaking...
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:03 AM
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135. because it is their parents and not yours...

and you have no RIGHT to tell them how to deal with a death in the family. That's why,

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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:59 PM
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133. I cant help it, but this whole thread reminds me of the commercial....
Of that poor guy choking to death while everyone around him is talking about every aspect of the Heimlich maneuver ....


Anarchy1999 I hope you find your parents soon ... peace to you and yours...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:04 AM
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:05 AM
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137. Hear, hear!
n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:25 AM
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147. I am just amazed
You are amazing. At least we all have your number now.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:31 AM
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152. Locking.

Discussion in this thread has degenerated into a field day of personal attacks and insensitive commentary.

The discussion belongs in The Lounge, but I won't move it in this state.

For the multitude who have dispatched alerts, please be advised that moderators are not required to be online at all times. Though, often we are. Alerts will be dealt with as soon as a moderator returns to duty. This in no way suspends the rules of behaviour. You are each and every one still expected to abide by the rules of this board.

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