It's Coming, Guys... Suspension of Election

[newsguyatl]

July 19 issue - American counter-terrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming" intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of such an attack, NEWSWEEK has learned.

The prospect that Al Qaeda might seek to disrupt the U.S. election was a major factor behind last week's terror warning by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Ridge and other counterterrorism officials concede they have no intel about any specific plots. But the success of March's Madrid railway bombings in influencing the Spanish elections—as well as intercepted "chatter" among Qaeda operatives—has led analysts to conclude "they want to interfere with the elections," says one official.

As a result, sources tell NEWSWEEK, Ridge's department last week asked the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel to analyze what legal steps would be needed to permit the postponement of the election were an attack to take place. Justice was specifically asked to review a recent letter to Ridge from DeForest B. Soaries Jr., chairman of the newly created U.S. Election Assistance Commission. Soaries noted that, while a primary election in New York on September 11, 2001, was quickly suspended by that state's Board of Elections after the attacks that morning, "the federal government has no agency that has the statutory authority to cancel and reschedule a federal election." Soaries, a Bush appointee who two years ago was an unsuccessful GOP candidate for Congress, wants Ridge to seek emergency legislation from Congress empowering his agency to make such a call. Homeland officials say that as drastic as such proposals sound, they are taking them seriously—along with other possible contingency plans in the event of an election-eve or Election Day attack. "We are reviewing the issue to determine what steps need to be taken to secure the election," says Brian Roehrkasse, a Homeland spokesman.

—Michael Isikoff

[Tatiana]

Forget terrorist attacks.

If we don't get a chance to vote on Nov 2, there will be riots all over this country. We've had enough of this bullshit. Bush will run out the backdoor of the White House, through the same route he first got in because the people will be after his ass.

[still_one]

6. really?

I don't think so...

People are much dumber than you are giving them credit for

[rfranklin]

people are much more afraid than you imagine...

Yes, some of it is just plain dumbness. But a lot of it is fear. Fear for one's job. Fear for one's status and property. Why do people put up with such incredible abuse and exploitation on their jobs? Why do they scapegoat the people who have the least and benefit the least from this economy and society? Because they are afraid to challenge or even acknowledge the venality and corruption of their so-called leaders. If you can solve that problem, let me know.

[Tellurian]

30. Well, thats when you take the Bull by the Horns...

and not depend on Civil War as any sort of remedy..

Bush is prepared with 20,000 independent contractors (his own private army) sequestered in Iraq and hundreds of empty Wakenhut incarceration facilities throughout the country to deal with the outbreak of a Civil War...

So, CW is not the answer.

[robertpaulsen]

Hey Tellurian, it may be even worse than that.

I remember you posted similar info on Plame thread 2 which certainly caught my attention. I googled military contracting + America and I came across this site:

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=PMC

Private Military Corporations are also referred to as Privatized Military Firms (PMF)s, ... among other things, and could be considered an alternative to the Draft.

According to ICIJ, since 1994, the U.S. Defense Department has entered into 3,061 contracts valued at more than $300 billion with 12 of the 24 U.S.-based PMCs. More than 2,700 of those contracts were held by just two companies: Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), a subsidiary of Vice President Dick Cheney's former employer, Halliburton Company, and Virginia-based management and technology consulting firm, Booz Allen Hamilton. The ICIJ report could not determine what percentage of these contracts was for training, security or logistical services because of the breadth of the services offered by the larger companies and the paucity of information provided by the Pentagon.<2>

The Pentagon does not even know how many contractors it uses. According to U.S. News and World Report, a preliminary report to Congress in April 2002 guessed that the Army contracted out the equivalent of between 124,000 and 605,000 persons in 2001. It is also hard to estimate how many people are working for PMCs because many of them are freelance contractors who may work for more than one of the PMCs. Often, it's hard to tell where the U.S. Army ends and a private company begins, as certain training programs run by PMCs allow retired military personnel to put their uniforms back on. One of the best known, privately held MPRI, based in Alexandria, Virginia, with over 700 full-time employees boasts of having "more generals per square foot than in the Pentagon."<3>




600,000+ as of 2001! You're right, civil war is out of the question.

[rfranklin]

10. people are much more afraid than you imagine...

Yes, some of it is just plain dumbness. But a lot of it is fear. Fear for one's job. Fear for one's status and property. Why do people put up with such incredible abuse and exploitation on their jobs? Why do they scapegoat the people who have the least and benefit the least from this economy and society? Because they are afraid to challenge or even acknowledge the venality and corruption of their so-called leaders. If you can solve that problem, let me know.

[TransitJohn]

25. Well I know for a fact

that all of the left and almost all of the right in Wyoming would be in the streets.

[Zorra]

27. They will declare indefinite Martial Law. Will they allow another 9/11?

Actually, they will probably use a different method this time.

Possibly using explosives stolen from California and Colorado.

ATF Agents Search for Stolen Explosives
7/19/03

Federal agents said Friday they are investigating the theft of 1,100 pounds of an explosive chemical from construction companies in Colorado and California in the past week.

Both thefts involve ammonium nitrate, a key ingredient in the bomb that destroyed the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995

http://www.poe-news.com/stories.php?poeurlid=24565

So, did they ever find out who stole these explosives and recover them?

Kerry: Chemical Plants At Risk
April 29, 2004

(CBS/AP) Democrat John Kerry accused the Bush administration Thursday of leaving the nation's chemical plants vulnerable to the imminent threat of terrorist attacks because of political ties to the industry.

"I wish their policies were in touch with the tough rhetoric that you keep hearing," Kerry told the National Conference of Black Mayors in Philadelphia.

"What are we waiting for? Instead of misleading us about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, they ought to lead this nation to take every step to prevent one of our own chemical plants from being turned into a weapon of mass destruction against our own people."

On the same day President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were questioned by the commission investigating the intelligence failures surrounding the Sept. 11 attacks, Kerry painted a bleak picture of the danger facing Americans and suggested there could be another attack before the November election. He said every report out of Washington shows that it's not a matter of whether there will be another terrorist attack, but when.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/02/politics/main615104.shtml

If there is another terrorist attack on US soil, it will be because Bu$h and the neocons are not taking the proper actions and are impeding intelligence, law enforcement, and legislative officials from preventing an attack. Bu$h and the republicans are deliberately not making the changes necessary to safeguard explosives storage facilities and facilities such as chemical plants that could result in a horrible disaster if they are not properly protected.

Instead, perhaps they are trying to find out what books we are reading so that after the elections are canceled the dictatorship can round up dissenters.

They are making plans to cancel the election because they already know that Bu$h and other republicans are going to lose big time, and they will do anything, such as allowing a terrorist attack so that they can justify declaring martial law for an indefinite period, to remain in power.

And then they will permanently cancel democracy in America.

[Mokito]

46. A new 9/11 wouldn't be necessary....

Even a minor explosion could make them delay the election. This time it's just a matter of timing.

[Zorra]

47. Good point, I agree. But they seem to like "catalystic events"

that are spectacular.

They may want to really scare the public again so that people will accept martial law as a necessity.

[enough]

1. Duplicate thread, with link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x678663

[bear425]

2. I have a question...

I can never remember if Newsweek is the conservative magazine or is Time the conservative one? Can someone please tell me which is which? Thanks in advance.

Oh, and yeah... What about Washington Monthly - anyone know about that one? TY

[whistle]

12. Definition of conservative.....

conservative

SYLLABICATION: con·ser·va·tive
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: kn-sûrv-tv KEY
ADJECTIVE: 1. Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
2. Traditional or restrained in style: a conservative dark suit.
3. Moderate; cautious: a conservative estimate.
4a. Of or relating to the political philosophy of conservatism. b. Belonging to a conservative party, group, or movement.
5. Conservative Of or belonging to the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
6. Conservative Of or adhering to Conservative Judaism.
7. Tending to conserve; preservative: the conservative use of natural resources.
NOUN: 1. One favoring traditional views and values.
2. A supporter of political conservatism.
3. Conservative A member or supporter of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
4. Archaic A preservative agent or principle.

I would consider from mt readings of both magazines that they lean to the conservative side, but Newsweek does have a slightly more liberal slant based on this definition:

liberal

SYLLABICATION: lib·er·al
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: lbr-l, lbrl KEY
ADJECTIVE: 1a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
2a. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor. b. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.
3. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
4. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.
5a. Archaic Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman. b. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.
NOUN: 1. A person with liberal ideas or opinions.
2. Liberal A member of a Liberal political party.

As for those in America who speak loudest about conservatism, here is a definition that I believe fits very well:

reactionary

SYLLABICATION: re·ac·tion·ar·y
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: r-ksh-nr KEY
ADJECTIVE: Characterized by reaction, especially opposition to progress or liberalism; extremely conservative.
NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. re·ac·tion·ar·ies
An opponent of progress or liberalism; an extreme conservative.


Source: http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entries/87/l0148700.html

[bear425]

15. hey thanks for the info

and the education...

[emulatorloo]

52. For what is is worth, Michael Isikoff was Number One Reporter for Monica

Scandal. . .

Linda Tripp told him the Pres had an affair with an intern.

He said, so what!

Then he said, but if the Pres got her a job to get her out of town during the Paula Jones deposistions then that would be a big story.

So then Linda ran to Monica and said, tell Clinton to have Vernon Jordan get you a job in New York!

That got Mr. Isikoff all excited and he pursued the story relentlessly!

[Zen]

3. Well, they should "plan" for this, but we are a very spread out nation

I mean unless we had a nuclear attack or something it would be insane and lead to a serious internal conflict if they tried to postpone an election due to a less than a spectacularly successful attack.

[lovedems]

4. So, the Florida gig is up. So it Diebold.

So they will LIHOP, postpone the election, hoping Bush will go up in the polls like he did after 9-11 and then hold the election? Why does this sound all to real?

I am generally not a tinfoil hatter, but God, I can see this scenario play out perfectly.

[Cobalt Violet]

7. I believe it is a given now.

[lovedems]

8. My only hope, and it is a stretch at that

is that the good people of this country hold this DUMBASS accountable for 2 (count em') 2 tragedies on his watch. It will prove we are NOT safer and that while he was pushing for a constitutional amendment to define marriage, the terrorists were plotting their attacks against this country. I hope they will realize he is not a leader or protector, he is a failure.

I don't know if I should have faith in the American people or not. The majority can be a stupid group from time to time.

[Eloriel]

43. Whadya mean "hold him accountable"?

The scenario being described is all about NOT being held accoutable, in fact about NEVER being held accountable. There's no other reason for it.

[Zorra]

64. Well said. Exactly.

[jimshoes]

5. How does anyone know this intel

isn't just some more pure bullshit. I just dont trust em', nope.

[blueknight]

9. what about when the chimp...

told us "go to disneyworld", "go on vacation", "go on with your lives" now they want to cancel election? WTF!

[oasis]

37. Excellent point.

[NightOwwl]

11. Unfortunately,

it doesn't matter whether or not the intel is bullshit. Like Jon Stewart said, "They want you too scared to vote for Kerry but not scared enough to not vote for Bush." (paraphrasing)

It's the Fear, Stupid! (Referring to public in general, not you jimshoes :-) )

[Don_G]

13. I've Got A Feeling

That if Dimbo wins the election by ANY means, the US will be well on it's way to another Civil War.

[Pobeka]

14. Postponing the election would be a direct interference with the election.

I hope Kerry/Edwards start making the case (cleverly) that it is the people that should choose how to elect their representatives should an attack occur.

Anything else is unconstitutional and undemocratic.

[Imperialism Inc.]

16. I don't think they really want to postpone the election.

Not that they wouldn't if they feel it is the only way. However, the backlash could be pretty unpredictable as noted above.

What this is a backhanded attack on Kerry. This is a way to get out the talking point that al Qaeda wants Kerry in. Gives them a platform to say ridiculous things like the attacks in Spain decided the election. That is a flat out lie.

They want people to think, "ahhh those weak-kneed Spaniards. Not me , I'm not going to let al Q tell me who to vote for."

[maggrwaggr]

77. it wouldn't be a real postponement. We'd never have another

the postponement would be permanent.

These people have no scruples, and they place no value on human life. And they are ultimately short-sighted and incredibly stupid. All of this is a very dangerous combination.

[KharmaTrain]

17. Remember 911 Happened On An Election Day

...and bless the people of New York for keeping their heads in doing the right thing about his that attack affected their election, and a blueprint to follow.

Guiliani, or whomever, suspended voting, but it was immediately rescheduled and carried out. Even Guiliani's attempts to futz with extending his term or delaying the elections didn't hold out.

There has to be a reality here that an attack could happen on Election Day, and that some kind of plan has to be on "the books" in regards to such an eventuality. Better we have it out in the open than in the usual hidden places.

IMHO, I can't see an attack, unless it's so widespread and devastating, to short circuit a national election from being held on the scheduled date and that the contingencies should be based more on specific voting problems (including BBV and touch-screen disruptions) as well as any scare attacks by either Al Queda or whomever feels its in their best interests to disrupt the electoral process (tin foil hat now firmly in place).

[Q]

18. Congress should make the decision if needed...not some Bush* agency...

- All of this is very suspicious. They've got the disinformation and propaganda all covered. That terrorism 'influenced' Spain's election is nothing more than speculation by Bush* operatives anxious to find one more way to sway Nov. their way.

[jackstraw45]

19. You're right...too bad we have this weak congress...

Remember that THIS is the congress that gave Bush persmission to go to war.

You REALLY think that they wouldn't suspend an election for him too if some kind of "attack" occured?

[kentuck]

20. Oh wait ! There's a new poll !

58% say it would be apropriate under some circumstances to "postpone" the election.... I can't wait to see this poll. (not really)

[many a good man]

21. Let's hold elections 3 days early instead

That'll surprise 'em!

Seriously though, do you think one or two little car bombs going off at polling places first thing in the morning would be enough to call off the election? Do state laws have any contingency for anything similar? What if a hurricane or flood occurred on election day? Power outage?

Shouldn't the states themselves be responsible for making these kind of decisions on voting procedures?

[Kazak]

58. Like the transfer of sovereignty.

I have to admit, the thought occured to me. What about "postponing" the election to thwart any legimate attempts to disrupt the election, but then hold the election the very next day? Hey, I just don't want to see explosions here at home. I do think postponing the election just to avoid an obvious defeat would be the worst blow democracy has taken yet.

[Neecy]

22. rut-roh

...chairman of the newly created U.S. Election Assistance Commission...

We all know that a Bush* commission has the opposite mandate of whatever its named.

Does anyone know anything about the 'new' commission? Needless to say, I'm highly suspicious.

I find it impossible to believe that Congress would give ANY authorization to postpone the elections. If they do, the Democratic party is history.

[thecrow]

51. I heard it isheaded by some * appointee

who is a failed gop congress wanabe.
Does that give you confidence?
:evilgrin:

[Pepperbelly]

23. Elections held in 1860, 1864, 1944. 'Nuff sed... nt

[NightOwwl]

24. Quote from Homeland spokesman

"We are reviewing the issue to determine what steps need to be taken to secure the election"

Step 1) Blue state attacked: Election as scheduled
Step 2) Red state attacked: Cancel election immediately

[demgrrrll]

26. We are going to have to roll over these fear tactics like Sherman Tanks

until we get to the finish line. I refuse to be frightened any longer.
I call Bullshit.

[DivinBreuvage]

35. Better to roll over them like Tiger tanks or T-34s

The Shermans burned so easily that the Germans called them "Tommy Cooker" or "Ronson" (after a brand-name cigarette lighter, akin to calling them "Zippos")

[demgrrrll]

36. Good point. n/t.

.

[LunaC]

39. Hmmmmmm........

Step 1) Blue state attacked: Election as scheduled
Step 2) Red state attacked: Cancel election immediately

I never thought of that. It would certainly skew the poll numbers, wouldn't it? Your conjecture makes a lot of sense!

[Tellurian]

28. All the CIA has to do is find paperwork stating if the Bush Regime

IS removed, there will be no terrorist attacks on the US..

At that point, Bush and his minions should be declared a threat to National Security...

and a question posed to Bush by news reporters would be...

"Mr. Bush, would you resign to save America and it's inhabitants from certain death and destruction?"

of course he will answer no..

follow up:

"Mr. President, by continuing to ignore calls from the World for your resignation, you are insuring the destruction of America. Why do American's have to sacrifice *THEIR* lives as payment for your wrong doing?"

..<sorry, thinking outside the box again>..

[leftofthedial]

29. Son of The Coup of 2000 what if . . .

the bushgang stage serious "terrorist" attacks, say bio or chem attacks on election day and then use the resulting disruption, chaos and fear as the basis for once again challenging the election . They still own the same supremos.

[Tellurian]

31. Thats right...Why continue to let them be the moving partys?

Do they own the corner on smoke and mirrors?

Is the CIA pissed at them?

Put them on the "hot seat" and let the World watch them squirm.

[jimshoes]

32. You can bet they've already

thought about it.

[kayell]

33. If elections are postponed or cancelled, the terrorists win. Repeat often

Suggested by another poster on a related thread.

[sherrem]

34. I suggest

we start e-mailing, calling and writing our congressmen and let them know how we feel about this.

[gauguin57]

69. my senators are Santorum and Specter, and my congressman

is Joseph Pitts (juuuust to the right of Attila the Hun).

So good fucking luck with contacting them about anything!

[Zorra]

38. Kick

[alfredo]

40. Bush has several options, but is runnong out of them

1. install voting machines that cannot be audited. that's running into trouble
2. purge voters that might vote Democratic. That failed
3. postpone or cancel the election. That is pending
4. buy or intimidate electors in states where they are not bound
5. get another favor from friends on Supreme Court

[mzmolly]

41. Well why not have them EARLY THEN? Oh wait, because Kerry is

ahead in the polls?

[mzmolly]

42. One more thing. IF THIS DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE THE DANGEROUS

FACISM IN THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY, I DON'T KNOW WTF DOES!?

Canada looks more appealing by the day :(

[tom_paine]

44. I don't think Canada will be safe this time around (maybe a few years)

If Imperial Power remains in Amerika, no WAY they will tolerate a Free Nation North of them.

Canad will be prussured into something lie Virtual Anschluss. The treaties are already in place.

Whether the decent good Free Citizens of Canada will obey those treaties once Nero and Caligula Bush reveal THESELVES (making Tiberius Bunnypants* look like George Washington) is another matter...

[Missy Vixen]

45. Newsguy, thanks for bringing this to our attention

I don't know about anyone else, but this is scary as hell.

It's time to talk this one up to everyone you know.

Julie

[lumpy]

48. What will the SOBs

think of next. This proposal coming on the hinges of Ridge's lame propaganda speech regarding Homeland Security is so transparent. If Congress passes such a hand over of power to the President you can be damn sure there will be a timely warning of imminent attack from the enemy just before the election. It will be a long time before we will have the right to vote out the squatter in the White House. The bastards will do anything to make Bush's dream of absolute power come true. If Congress goes along with this, the Constitution will be of no consequence. Bushco has already declared that we are going to be in a constant state of war. This proposal will cinch the power being soley held in the presidency.

[Zorra]

49. Kick for democracy.

[Zomby Woof]

50. Spain sure scared those miserable fucks

I dare 'em to try.

[Massacure]

53. The President cannot call of the elections.

Only Congress can decide the date of the election. On top of that the constiution states that the President is to be sworn in on January 20th. That means there is only two months of wiggle room.

[midwayer]

57. Patriot Act 1

Again, it my understanding that Patriot Act 1, passed on Sept. 14 2001
expanded Presidential powers to include the fact that in the case of a national emergency, through something called "edict", he can postpone or cancel the election UNCHALLENGED.

Listen to what Al Martin said on Friday

the last hour of Tony Trupiano's show at

http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1&id=65081

archived Friday July 9th

until somebody proves this wrong this is what I am hearing

[midwayer]

60. Oops, wrong link

here it is

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/

[Kazak]

62. Fak! We've been hoodwinked!!!

:alarm:

[maggrwaggr]

78. yeah and I can't break the speed limit either

:eyes:

These people don't care what the fucking LAW is.

[taxidriver]

54. they could make it seem like a good idea. "We musnt break the chain of

Command, etc."

[mvd]

55. It's the voting machines I'm most worried about

We better be ready this time.

[mopinko]

56. please discuss the what if's here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1970674

[donhakman]

59. 745

[mopinko]

63. ooooohhhh i like it

did you do this? can you produce them?

[mopinko]

67. the only thing is

the thing i am fishing for is a plan of and call to action. pointed, simple, specific, effective, ya know.

[JackRiddler]

61. Lying about Spain

The terror attacks did not directly influence the Spanish elections.

The Aznar government was caught lying in their attempt to immediately blame the attacks on ETA. This enraged Spaniards who had marched in the millions, largely against ETA, immediately after the attacks.

If Aznar had not lied, and if he had not been caught directly, the PP would have probably won.

The Socialists pulled out of Iraq as they had promised they would, in keeping with the wishes of 90 percent of the population who had opposed Spanish involvement in the war.

Enough misinformation about Spain.

[bluedog]

65. like a kid asking..................

"Mom, if the school burns down, I won't have to take my exam right?"

You better make sure he isn't holding a can of gas and a box of matches behind his back.


This is, in essence, what Bush is asking right now. Someone check for the can and matches... CIA headquarters would be a good start.

[kaiso]

66. It should NOT be postponed but if the Neocons win, a new date MUST be set

in stone if this law is passed. Posponed date MUST BE 1 week after the election and NO LATER!

Anything more will give these phucquers TOO MUCH POWER!

I think it's time to buy a gun.....

[peekaloo]

68. That would explain why Jeb has chosen 'to do the right thing"

concerning the purge of voters in Florida this year. Well, that and the fact they found that many Latino felons, who normally vote Repub, would have been allowed to vote illegally.

Something is definitely afoot at the Circle K.

[Zomby Woof]

70. oh BULLSHIT

You should feel ashamed for falling for their fear rhetoric.

IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

End of story.

(newsguymyass)

[Wednesdays]

71. Well, it certainly could happen...

But now that I read about the DeLay thing--man, if it's true, it's huge--maybe this whole thing is a way to try to cover it up!

How cynical is that!? Covering up one huge outrage by creating another huge outrage!!

[Zomby Woof]

72. smoke and mirrors

Sometimes I just have to bitterly laugh.

[maggrwaggr]

79. you think they're just gonna walk away from power?

I don't.

[Lerkfish]

73. CNN story....there's a religious right component to this....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/election.day.delay/index.html

please read the ENTIRE article.

what I'm referring to:

Newsweek said the discussions about whether the November 2 election could be postponed started with a recent letter to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge from DeForest Soaries Jr., chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.

The commission was set up after the disputed 2000 presidential vote to help states deal with logistical problems in their elections.

Soaries, who was appointed by President Bush, is a former New Jersey secretary of state and senior pastor of the 7,000-member First Baptist Church of Lincoln Gardens in Somerset.

Newsweek reported that Soaries expressed concern that no federal agency had the authority to postpone an election and asked Ridge to ask Congress to give his commission such power.

[Gregorian]

74. I will have already voted by absentee ballot

As much as we have predicted this, long ago, and as disgustingly ignorant as this cabal is, this is probably not a significant act, other than a ploy to show themselves as the leaders that they aren't.

Phoney cowboy; Phoney president.

[Amaya]

75. No

Don't think it'll happen.

[midwayer]

76. Presidential Authority

"To put this in some context, the president now has the absolute authority, under the expansion of the War Powers Act of 1947 therein contained in the USA Patriot Act. This expansion of these powers means, in this case, that once the president declares a State of National Emergency, which he did on September 14, 2001, three days after the 9-11 incident, that effectively authorizes the president to do a variety of things—postpone elections, cancel elections, impose a state of martial law, order the arrest of any legislative or judicial members of government, etc. Those powers had always existed. However the president couldn’t act without the consent of Congress. He couldn’t assume these imperial powers without a super-majority vote in Congress and without a majority opinion from the Supreme Court.

The USA Patriot Act, however, sidelines the legislative and judicial branches from their oversight role – legislative oversight or judicial review after the President declared a state of National Emergency. It gives the president the power to act by edict."

more....

Sedition & Treason in the US Imperial State


http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/Articles/Ashcroft/sedition.htm

[midwayer]

80. New Link

http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/Articles/Ashcroft/sedition.htm

[midwayer]

81. Same as the old link..thought it was bad n/t

[Zorra]

82. Kick for weekday crew.