Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I have just the solution if the elections are cancelled.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:31 PM
Original message
I have just the solution if the elections are cancelled.
Vote from home by paper ballot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:32 PM
Response to Original message
1. I already do that
It's called being a permanent absentee voter! :D

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:33 PM
Response to Original message
2. I already do that
It's called Oregon. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:34 PM
Response to Original message
3. they'd make sure
the post offices blew up.or mail planes crashed..or how about all federal buildings closed?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:38 PM
Response to Original message
4. um, canceLLed eLections - why wouLd you absentee count
if there's no eLection? are you maiLing it in to nothing?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. all those capital 'L's
must be a pain to do manually.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. I meant if Bush says he must close the polls due to a terror attack.
If that is the case, we could vote from home. Its safe there, no?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pandorapoet Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. I hadn't heard they were thinking...
of closing the poles. A terror attack? I think that is ludicrous. Why would terrorists want to effect the election so directly? What would they do, put strychnine on the touch screens? If anything, wouldn't they want this possibility of a different president? Or do none of you think that 9/11 had anything to do w/Bush? I think Micheal Moore's latest movie has a few things to say on that note.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. Yes, they are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #8
20. Hi pandorapoet!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. i understand that avenue
but if the eLections are canceLLed, they're canceLLed. your idea makes sense and is the obvious soLution to this issue. i however, know that eLections wiLL be canceLLed because bush is gonna Lose so i'm confident he won't give that option for whatever Lame ass reason he gives for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:39 PM
Response to Original message
6. Been doing so since 1992
And that was long before I was worried about electro-fraud or fake terrorism. Was moving at least once a year then and got tired of trying to remember where my polling place was.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
9. I don't think you understand - cancelling the election means we live
in a dictatorship. Nobody will care about your homemade paper ballot. Either you decide to participate in the inevitable civil war or you're just playing games.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:37 PM
Response to Original message
11. Oregon is mail-in
No reason to cancel our elections. Better make damn sure we win!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. Bush has a HUGE reason to cancel our elections
The fucker's gonna lose. He's going to lose because the American people have finally figured out what he is and they don't like it. Right now we could run Saddam Hussein and get thirty percent of the vote, because as bad as Saddam Hussein is, he isn't George Bush. We could probably get fifteen percent with Hitler on the ticket, nineteen percent with Mussolini if we ran either one on a public-works platform--add 25 percent if they promise to close all of Bush's concentration camps and not open any new ones--and 22 percent with Satan. Hideki Tojo would be a stretch; he's not Bush, which works in our favor, but he's Japanese which may go against us. (If we're gonna be led by a dictator, let's at least get a competent one.)

The only way he can possibly remain in power is if the elections are suspended for the "duration of the emergency." (Since the emergency is that the American people really hate George Bush, it ends when Bush dies or some general who's had enough of Bush's shit has his troops go to the White House and put him into custody.)

Under this state of emergency, he will of course either suspend the Congress or suspend the parts of the Constitution dealing with removing presidents from office.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
12. How about we just occupy the Capitol building until Bush is removed?
Seems more effective. We can just have a big sit-in by 10 million people who refuse to budge until democracy is restored. Unless everyone is too practical, scared and docile to do something about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. ...
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 03:48 PM by Cleita
Sorry Dupe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Bring your back packs filled with food and free standing pup tents?


Didn't the veterans do this also? Camping out in D.C. till you get redress or.........

(snip)
Political Analysis

Power itself is not derived through violence, though in governmental form it is usually violent in nature. Governmental power is often maintained through oppression and the tacit compliance of the majority of the governed. Any significant withdrawal of that compliance will restrict or dissolve governmental control. Apathy in the face of injustice is a form of violence. Struggle and conflict are often necessary to correct injustice.

Our struggle is not easy, and we must not think of nonviolence as a "safe" way to fight oppression. The strength of nonviolence comes from our willingness to take personal risk without threatening other people.

It is essential that we separate the individual from the role she/he plays. The "enemy" is the system that casts people in oppressive roles.
(snip)
http://www.actupny.org/documents/CDdocuments/HistoryNV.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. It would be violent
I don't advocate the protesters starting the violence, but the national guard would start it if that were ever to happen. However, I think there is a limit to how much they can control the people. If 2 million people or more showed up to sit-in at the nation's capitol until democracy was restored it would take a blood bath attack from the troops to stop the people. I don't think we've gone so far that Bush could get away with that, or that the military would even be willing to do it. If it did happen then everyone would know that we no longer live in a democracy. Anyway, I don't believe any of that will ever happen and I'm just talking out of my ass.

On the other hand, we could expand it to include every state capitol as well for those who are far from DC. It really wouldn't take much to stop the functioning of government in a non-violent way if enough people were motivated to do it. That's why the FBI spends time tracking left wing radicals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. I often thought these cardboard cutouts hanging around D.C. ..........
Were just plain cowards and frauds. Mostly it's about who blinks first.
The called the many, the people, the radicals, but mostly they are the ones not wanting to work within the system. Every time any little thing happens where they can't make enough profit off of their corruption they get the thugs to enforce just more rules. The Patriot Act should of been the tipping point for anybody paying attention (a lot were, thank goodness).

We all have to find enough people together make our government as we all see fit, nobody will give it to us unless we let them. People transcend the world when the world they see don't work.

"The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.' - Tom Clancy "

"The man who goes alone can start today; but he who travels with another must wait till that other is ready.' - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)"

"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true.' - James Branch Cabell"

http://www.miniluv.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=471
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:44 PM
Response to Original message
13. We are doing that anyway.
Bev Harris uncovered some election irregularities in our county during election 2002 with the electronic scanners. I just hope that the paper absentee ballots don't get accidentally shredded, burned or buried.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:57 PM
Response to Original message
15. How about we just give * four more years by default
Oh wait-that's the meaning of "postponing the elections if there is a terrorist attack". It's just for our own good, right? Cause we can't be trusted to be a Democracy with terrorists around now can we? What if GASP SHUDDER HORROR we are like Ssssspain? It would be the end of Democracy. NO WAIT. WE are the Democracy, we the people, we just have forgot that for like the last few dozen years, huh???? WAIT-Republicans don't really believe in Democracy do they? They only believe in their way, kinda of like a Dictator ruling??? IS that it? OR is it GOD's law? Wait-is there a seperation of church and State-that certainly can't help us with GOD, but WAIT isn't that exactly the kind of world the terrorists want in the first place?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 06:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC