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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:36 PM
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John Titor's Predictions Coming True? (Tinfoil Hat Alert!!)

http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/CopyrightProof.cfm

Civil war in the United States will begin in 2004 or 2005, as the result of increasingly oppressive police state tactics like warrantless searches and other violations of American civil liberties. It will become common for people to have their doors kicked in and homes violently invaded by police looking for evildoers. The Gestapo-style oppression of innocents by an increasingly oppressive and murderous government will be worst in the cities, so many people will seek refuge in the countryside, but police will soon enough seek them out there too. Civil war will emerge as a more or less continuous series of military sieges and confrontations resembling the Ruby Ridge and Waco police massacres of 1992 and 1993, and it will begin by 2004 or perhaps 2005 (it might not be obvious in the beginning what's actually happening). As time goes on the civil war will become more and more a continuous conflict between paranoid government forces headquartered in the cities, against perceived or imagined threats in the rural civilian population. The American government will wage war against its own citizens, winning most of the battles, but the battling will drag on for years.

In the nuclear war of 2015 our cities will be primary targets, so the civil war will end then in favor of the rurals when the government and its domestic armies are destroyed. In this way the nuclear war will be regarded by the survivors as a good thing.
SIGNIFICANCE: At the time of John Titor's telling of his story via the Web and IRC (internet relay chat) in 2000 and 2001, and even by the time of this document's copyright in 2003, the prospect of civil war in America seems an outlandish prediction. Surely it is so farfetched that only a genuine time traveler or very good fortune teller could forsee it at this time. If a civil war in America does validate prediction 5, a reasonable person ought to consider that Mr. Titor was not a fraud and that nuclear war is very likely to occur in 2015. In that case it will remain possible (though still not probable) to prevent nuclear war, but only if we are able to face the evidence and respond appropriately so that things can be turned around from their present course. It's remotely possible that the hard cold proof provided by this document may sufficiently alter our worldline to prevent nuclear calamity, but it's more likely that only a modest number of individuals will take heed of an early warning even in the face of its validation. Denial can allow people to believe in whatever they want to believe in, and people who do not become aware of John Titor's story until after civil war has begun may quite rationally tend to disbelieve that this information existed much sooner and not fabricated after the fact, unless they have some proof of it. The purpose of these predictions being copyrighted is to therefore provide one way to irrefutably prove that they did exist before the predicted civil war in America: anyone can go to the Copyright Office and see for themselves.

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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:42 PM
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1. Whoa now.....
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 03:54 PM by charlyvi
I think maybe this is going a bit too far. Conservatives and liberals will unite before this happens--I think only the wingnut evangelicals will go for this, as it would bring us closer to Armageddeon (sp?). I am not smearing Christians; there is a small sect within Christianity that would love to see this happen. Identity cards, mark of Satan etc.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:51 PM
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2. Well its interesting - if not very plausabie
I am thinking wiser heads even in the RED vs BLUE camps would stop short of enabling this to happen. This would be a no win scenero at best.
granted there are few limits to what the Chimp Junta would do if it could get by with it - to my way of thinking, but there may be a few adults left in critical places to check them - before it comes to this.

My greatful thanks to the Supreme Court.
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Freya Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:01 PM
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3. Oh christ
Before you take this John fellow too seriously... Let us remember he claims to be a time traveler from the future.
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FreedomReload Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:05 PM
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4. Not our future
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 04:07 PM by FreedomReload
An alternative future, like how Trunks time traveled to an alternative past in Dragonball Z to stop the androids.
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