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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:24 PM
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Presidential Authority
I will leave this up to others to either verify or debunk

I need to get some shut eye!
night


"To put this in some context, the president now has the absolute authority, under the expansion of the War Powers Act of 1947 therein contained in the USA Patriot Act. This expansion of these powers means, in this case, that once the president declares a State of National Emergency, which he did on September 14, 2001, three days after the 9-11 incident, that effectively authorizes the president to do a variety of things—postpone elections, cancel elections, impose a state of martial law, order the arrest of any legislative or judicial members of government, etc. Those powers had always existed. However the president couldn’t act without the consent of Congress. He couldn’t assume these imperial powers without a super-majority vote in Congress and without a majority opinion from the Supreme Court.

The USA Patriot Act, however, sidelines the legislative and judicial branches from their oversight role – legislative oversight or judicial review after the President declared a state of National Emergency. It gives the president the power to act by edict."

more....

Sedition & Treason in the US Imperial State


http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/Articles/Ashcroft/sedit...


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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:27 PM
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1. It also implies that
many Left Wingers could be considered seditious and domestic terrorists!?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:49 PM
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2. We are about to enter the most dangerous period
in our nation's history.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:30 PM
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4. This scary stuff
If this is correct it explains alot as to why the Democrats can't budge.

They have truly hijacked our country
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:14 PM
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3. New Link
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:44 PM
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5. Somehow, I'm pretty sure this is bullshit
Maybe it's because he doesn't cite the specific clauses of the laws he's talking about that would justify such a position. Maybe it's because all the talk I've heard regarding postponing the elections has included the point that such a plan would require a constitutional amendment. Maybe it's because it's referring to the Texas Democrats leaving to prevent quorum, and because none of his predictions have come to pass.

Call me a skeptic.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:49 PM
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6. OK, I have read this whole article now.
I remember reading something about this a couple of years back. Does anyone have any other links. Please...I don't want to hear personal attacks on Al Martin. I just want some more facts if there are any more out there.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:23 AM
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7. I'm kicking this for tonight because we all want answers n/t
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:26 AM
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8. Porter Goss
Here he talks about Porter Goss

Keep in mind Tony Trupiano has him on his radio show every Friday.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=49&contentid=1336

I can't find anything written that debunks him
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:55 AM
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9. kick (eom)
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:57 AM
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10. I just e-mailed this
to both Guy James and Thom Hartmann to see if they can discuss. Let see if we can get some response.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:21 AM
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11. And then there is this
Wondering if this is going to eventually go away as it will be considered "seditious"

On second thought, if you don't see me post for a few days...please come bail me out of jail

thanks



"Furthermore they craftily worded this in the USA Patriot Act, so that they stripped all civil courts of their jurisdiction to hear cases involving state security, but there still must be a judicial review process. That’s why the Supreme National Security Court was created, separate and distinct from the existing National Security Court. Then there’s the Supreme National Security Council, which is separate and distinct from the National Security Council. The president chairs both the Supreme National Security Court and the Supreme National Security Council. He has sole authority."


Bush, Propaganda Minister O'Reilly, The P-Word and the Weiner Nation
http://www.almartinraw.com/public/column94.html
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