Anarchy Threat in New York City

[Sweetpea]

The cover of the Daily News says that cops fear hard core lunatics plotting convention chaos. It makes me wonder if all Bush protestors are going to be placed in this category.
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[Freya]

1. Idiots

I think this protest will do nothing but give the party a black eye. The media is drooling at the attempt to frame this as an anarchy situation caused by democrats. Every extreme incident - even if it is done by only 5 people - will be front page news and it will read like it was everyone present involved.

[G_j]

2. the only idiots are

those who buy and spread Republican propaganda.

[Freya]

3. Unfortunately

I doubt FAUX is going to care when they have a field day spinning this.

[G_j]

5. Since when does FAUX dictate

when or where Americans can exercise their Constitutional right to freedom of assembly?

[Freya]

9. Oh please

I never said they could NOT assemble - I'm simply stating what the results of it will probably be.

[G_j]

15. I don't mean to be

'short' with you, it's just that every time there is a large demonstration people start wringing their hands about how the media will paint it, what Joe six pack will think etc.
If we worried about how FOX portrayed the 'progressive' movement we wouldn't be able to move. We can't just stay at home worrying about how a bunch of creeps will lie about us.

[Canuckistanian]

7. There's a lot of them

And they're running the country.

[Sweetpea]

4. I agree

Anarchy is a strong word to use.

[Pepperbelly]

6. Anarchy is not too strong a word ...

Anarchists become more relevant as things unravel more and more. It will be tough to rule out their position if things get much worse with these fuckers in the WH.

[Sweetpea]

8. I don' t know about that....

To define it as anarchy as oppose to anti Bush demonstrators prepare for convention. There must be something up.

[Pepperbelly]

10. my point is that ...

anarchy is not an unreasonable response to the talk of cancelled elections, Patriot II, or the Bushocolypse.

[Sweetpea]

16. You and I know that but go to the front page of the New York Daily News

It looks like its a major warning......Too bad Bush didn't pay attention to terrorist threats.

[Freya]

13. The repub convention

will be close enough to the election that Rove & co will be in full scale media blitz mode at this time.

This is probably on his top 10 list of things to exploit. I have no doubt they want to frame this as badly as possible. I wouldn't even be surprised if they sent in stealth repubs to stir things up.

[Pepperbelly]

14. nor would I ...

if fact, I think it likely.

[Jose Diablo]

17. You can take it to the bank

there will be right wing agent provocateurs. Even if a vast majority of demonstrators are peaceful, it will spin to violent demonstrators in the news.

[Sweetpea]

18. Tonight's Scarborough show is going to have a story about

how far will Anti Bush protestors go to disrupt the RNC.

[G_j]

11. I guess the point here

is that "Anarchists" has become the vilifying catch-word that is used out of desperation by people who are afraid that Americans might actually follow the age old American tradition of protesting injustice. During Vietnam we were all "Communists". Same game, still just as lame.

[Pepperbelly]

12. see my post above. nt

[JSJ]

19. anarchists are our avant guerre- please appreciate them n/t

[ronabop]

20. Mr. and Mrs Joe Heartland come to NYC...

"There are people walking around dressed as women, but they're men!"

"Half naked people are dancing in the streets!"

"Weird street artists are saying and doing bizarre things!"

Normal NYC, to rural Idaho farmers, *is* anarchy. Nothing additional is needed. I have no idea what loony decided that the RNC should meet in NYC, but I think it's safe to say that they are, or will be, unemployed soon.

-Bop

[KharmaTrain]

21. Double Standard...Take This To The Bank

Be sure we'll see plenty of the "Right To Liars" and "Veterans Against Kerry" and a ton of "other voices" (their term) during the DNC. We'll always get a "second viewpoint" on anything that is said, and, of course, it'll be interpreted as to "what it means" as opposed to what the speaker actually said. Be assured MSGOP will have a panel with Peggy Noonan, John Fund, Michael Isakoff and a token DLC Democrat. Any protest outside will be a protest and any anti-Bunnypants statements will always be called an "attack".

At the RNC, any protest in NYC will be called a riot or portrayed in comparison with Seattle or Chicago '68. The impression that our protestors are out to disrupt not just the convention but the democratic process (part of this delay the election shit)...and, of course, unpatriotic/unAmerican.

The trap is set...any disruption in New York will be amplified and blown out of proportion. Even peaceful protest...especially any with a crowd larger than 20,000 that they can't ignore...will be viewed as something akin to the natives ready to burn down Frankenstein's castle.

The game, as we know, is fear. I expect the desperation to be running deep in the GOOP by their convention and the meme will be how the protests are a break down of civil order...I can just smell it coming.

[G_j]

23. then hey

cancel the protests, cancel the elections, cause its official the terrorists (GOP) have won..


edit>>>sarcasm btw<<

[KharmaTrain]

24. I Thought We're The Terrorists

Or of course, that's how we'll be framed by the time this thing is said and done. It will be any dissent against * will be taken as a terrorist attack...as, you know, they want so bad to remove their oil buddy.

From one who very much remembers Chicago '68, I supported what the demonstrators did and stood for in those days, as much as I will for those marching this year. However, it is sure be blown way out of proportion...especially if there is any visuals they can get their hands on of police and demonstrators going at it. Even if it's one demonstator...even if the cops start it...or it's staged, it's gonna be the "you see, those terrorists are on our streets".

I wish I could use some sarcasm here...it'd be far easier to sleep.

[Mike Niendorff]

22. this de-legitimization tactic is old hat for the RW media.

After the WTO demonstrations in Seattle, back in November 1999, every protest up here for the next two years contained references to "black-clad anarchists" who "might take advantage of the situation" in order to "stir up trouble".

It's amazing the police-state measures that people will accept once they have a media-hyped bogeyman to blame it on.


MDN

[Kinkistyle]

25. 3 someodd monstrous Anti-war protests in NYC - No Anarchists.

Well, there were a group of kids who LOOKED anarchisty but for the most part all the protests in NYC in 2002-2003 against Bush's stupid War for Oil were peaceful. So all of a sudden its "Anarchy time"? I don't buy it.

[Sweetpea]

26. There were some protestors stopping traffic by laying out on the

street. But yes, for the most part the protests, considering the numbers, were peaceful.