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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:00 PM
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60 minutes last night
I rarely watch these so called journalistic investigative reports since they are produced mostly for the brain dead or quasi comatose, but last night i was coerced into watching 60mins with kerry?edwards. The interviewing bitch kept calling her Heinz Kerry and then said she was accused of being too rich. really she responded and who is accusing me? Poverty stricken cheney, bush rumsfeld or any of the members of congress who are also multimillionares?
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TEXASYANKEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:01 PM
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1. Teresa Heinz Kerry
is unfortunately much smarter than anyone I've seen interview her thus far. She is one kick ass broad!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:29 PM
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7. Eventually she'll be attacked
for her European reserve, though. She was much less effusive on camera than Elizabeth Edwards was about the rapport between the two candidates and their wives. I can see it now, "cold and intellectual, hard and indifferent." It's so damned predictable.

I think she's wonderful, of course, a real breath of fresh air after 4 years of the overstuffed Laura Bush and her Stepford act.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:02 PM
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2. I thought the responses from the two wives were brilliant
Especially Elizabeth Edwards. I want her to run for President! She kicks serious ASS!

:kick: :headbang: :bounce:

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:07 PM
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3. I loved it..
when Teresa threw the millionaire bullcrap right back at Stahl's and the Repubes faces--stating it was fine and dandy when the Repubes were spending her late husbands money but it's a different story. I loved it when Kerry asked Stahl which millionaires?? Millionaire Cheney? Millionaire Bush, Millionaire Rumsfeld? And especially Edwards did not let Stahl get the best of him and Kerry--he shot right back--good for them! And by God who tries to fix up Stahl's face and hair--she's look worse than Katherine Harris!!
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:09 PM
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4. Maybe next week they can interview Laura Buxh
I'm dyin' for the secret to "no stick" biscuits.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:22 PM
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5. Ill Gotten Gains
I rarely watch these so called journalistic investigative reports since they are produced mostly for the brain dead or quasi comatose, but last night i was coerced into watching 60mins with kerry?edwards. The interviewing bitch kept calling her Heinz Kerry and then said she was accused of being too rich. really she responded and who is accusing me? Poverty stricken cheney, bush rumsfeld or any of the members of congress who are also multimillionares?<<

Teresa should also ask her... do you rather that I had made my money the way that Rumsfeld, Bush and Cheney have done? Or do you rather I leave it as it is...

http://www.thetruthaboutgeorge.com/special/harken.html
>>In 1986, Harken Energy Corporation purchased Bush's failing oil company for approximately 212,000 shares of Harken stock, then worth about $600,000. From 1986 to 1993, Bush served on Harken's board of directors. In addition to director's fees, Harken paid Bush between $80,000 and $120,000 a year as a consultant from 1986 to 1993.<<

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/eliteprofile/bush/bushandharken.html
>>In 1984, Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation, a small oil firm owned by William DeWitt and Mercer Reynolds, agreed to purchase Bush’s failing Arbusto Energy. As part of the deal, Bush was made president of Spectrum 7 and was given a 13.6 % stake in the company. But oil prices failed to rally over the next two years putting a damper on Spectrum 7’s revenue. Meanwhile the company accumulated a $2 million debt with the banks. In 1986, Spectrum’s financial situation had so seriously deteriorated that it too was in need of a bail out. (Colhoun 1992; Scheer 7-9-2002)<<

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/30/news-ireland.php
>>Was Halliburton, the oil conglomerate once headed by Dick Cheney, involved in a massive $180 million bribery scheme in Nigeria on Cheney’s watch? Hopes that the veil may finally be lifted on yet another odoriferous Halliburton scandal were raised last Friday, when it was announced that the Securities and Exchange Commission has finally opened a formal investigation into the alleged bribery — which French authorities have been probing for a year.<<


I am just about sure Rummy played a part in here somewhere...

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/14160/
>>In 1982, Reagan "legalized" direct military assistance to Iraq. This resulted in more than a billion dollars in military related exports. According to Kenneth R. Timmerman (author of The Death Lobby: How the West Armed Iraq) the US government under Reagan and Bush sold Iraq 60 Hughes MD 500 "Defender" helicopters, eight Bell Textron AB 212 military helicopters equipped for anti-submarine warfare, 48 Bell Textron 214 ST utility helicopters (sold for "recreational" purposes), and US military infra-red sensors and thermal imaging scanners (sold illegally to Iraq through a Dutch company). After the Gulf War, the International Atomic Energy Agency found the following US equipment in Iraq: spectrometers, oscilloscopes, neutron initiators, high-speed switches for nuclear detonation, and other tools used to develop and manufacture nuclear weapons.<<
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:24 PM
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6. "The interviewing bitch"
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 05:25 PM by HFishbine
So when female reporters ask the tough questions of our folks, they're bitches?

Was she a bitch when she interviewed Richard Clark or Paul O'Neil? I think she does a pretty good job.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:39 PM
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8. Tough questions?
What tough questions? All I saw was Lesley Stahl looking like she was on psuedo journalistic steriods trotting out some mighty mouse morality veiled in the ultimate question, do you do you not think you made a mistake John Kerry? Wow. Real intellect there. Takes a genius to realize what the pay off is for her and the rest of the CBS (Corporate Bastardization Services)crew.No matter how many times they answered anything she actually suggested, (as opposed to posing an unbiased query)she refused to let it go and get to something with substance. I was waiting for one of them to ask her, "So, Lesley, tell me the right answer?"

No, voters all over the country have much tougher questions for both candidates. Will we get to ask them? Shuck's George the saint thinks he has the answers for all of us. We just arent't listening. But one of these days we'll get an education (but not too much) and be as smart as George.

The ultimate responsibility for going to war is George Bush's. That's the price of driving around campaigning on all that jet fuel we provide him. The Prez has the final say and he said it and he is still saying it. What he isn't saying is that 12 of our guys died last week, 3 yesterday.

Do their deaths make me feel safer? Hardly. This little cheese whiz interview was a fakeand so is George Bush.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:20 AM
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14. The Toughest Question
was the one asked of Edwards; the one he wouldn't answer even though he said he'd answered it ten times.

Stahl reminded Edwards of his comments the previous day that under Kerry/Edwards American men and women would never be sent to war needlessly. "Were they sent to Iraq needlessly?" she asked. Tough question, squirmy answer. I still don't know if Edwards thinks they were sent needlessly or not, and I was paying close attention.

If Edwards is going to make that promise, then we deserve a straight up answer about what he considers needless. Good for Stahl for asking, a brick for John for dodging.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:44 PM
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9. The "interview" was badly cut.
The "interview" was obviously a series of cuts from a longer interview. It did not fit together. Teresa Kerry is usually relaxed and charming. Here, she seemed tense. I wondered if it was due to something that happened in a part of the interview that we did not see. Also, the questions did not flow. As a result, the answers did not make sense. There seemed to be references to prior discussion we did not see. It is hard to tell whether Leslie Stahl was really being nasty or whether she was just nasty in the parts that we saw.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:20 PM
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11. Lesley Stahl repeatedly cut off Kerry in mid-sentence, yet I doubt anyone
would ever do that to the Chimp (if he ever completes a sentence).

Still, they both (Kerry and Edwards) came across as energized and hungry. After seeing them together, edge of their seats, hands folded nervously, animated, looking like they were about to leap out of their seats, I half-consciously remarked aloud to myself that they are going to win in November.

Also, most importantly, Stahl and her producers appeared to edit out parts of the interview regarding Kerry's war support and specifically regarding the fact that the Congress had to authorize Bush to go to war in Iraq in order to satisfy the War Powers Act and the Constitution's delegation of the right to declare war solely to the Congress.

Kerry and others, once satisfying the formality of authorizing force, still insisted that Bush use diplomacy, the UN and civilized action prior to invading based on lies. The lying Republicans have used this Congressional vote in an attempt to say Kerry "flip flopped" when in fact he had to vote to authorize force to satisfy the War Powers Act.
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:10 PM
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10. i didnt say that
She kept harping on the one point which has no relevance whatsoever - sounds like biased reporting to me
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:28 PM
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12. i disagree with your characterization of 60 Minutes
It's one of the few decent news shows on television.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:51 PM
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13. Usually, you are correct, 60 Minutes is decent--BUT...
that interview wasn't. Stahl spent the entire time repeating all of the Repug attack points and nothing else. Had she addressed just the major attack lies and then asked about how they would govern if elected or why they should be elected, it would have been balanced.

Instead, there was a strong bias in the way it was done.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:29 AM
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15. Hmmm. Decisions...decisions...
Do I trust the people who make their money from condiments?

Or the people who make it from war-profiteering and business partnerships with the BinLadens?

Tough call.
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