OK, seriously, what if they "find" OBL before November?

[truebrit71]

Are we screwed?

I'm probably just being paranoid (imagine that in this day and age) but with Ridge coming out and floating the "cancel elections" trial balloon, what if it just a set-up?

Follow along here, Tommy-gun says "be afraid, VERY afraid the terra-ists are coming!!"....and then Wham-O at the RNC Pig-Fest in NYC the roll OBL out on stage wrapped in a big ribbon, and Smirky McAWOL then announces to the orgasmically applauding gathering that OBL was the one that was going to attack us again and that everything is now okay, OBL is caught and Turr aginst 'Murkka has been avoided....Exactly what kind of bounce would that provide....

I'm sorry to burden you lot with this paranoia, but no matter how strong a campaign Kerry/Edwards run, the capture of OBL could be the ace in the hole as far as the sheeple are concerned right?

You know I liked American politics so much more when it was all about the issues and not worrying about different ways the bush Junta will conjure up to stay in power...

Thanks for letting me vent....

From the Dems perpective the I'm afraid the ONLY thing that can put us safely over the edge are indictments...

[democracyindanger]

1. Nope because

Americans will still be dying in Iraq.

[murielm99]

2. I don't think it will do them any good.

I kind of rank it with the stories about the terror alerts that we have seen recently.

Even some members of the whore media have been questioning those recent alerts, voicing suspicions about their timing.

If they find him during the Democratic convention, or just before the election, too many people will be cynical.

If and when they do find him, we have to shout loudly:

WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG????

[Sugarbleus]

7. Exactly....as for me.....

I'm going to roll on the floor laughing and so should everyone else. I'm almost positive they already know where he is..there's just some scheme for why they don't go get him. For all we know, the bin laden family doesn't want bush to find their pain in the ass,wayward son.....(family + $$$)

Has anyone seen the article at the "Onion" about OBL? It's too funny.

Hell, I can imagine him right here in the US, or someother international city, disguised as a pimp.

You're right, it would be ooooooooh so obvious and 'What took you so long' would be a spot on response. People are still dying in Iraq and other terrorist groups are on the rise because Bush didn't actually succeed in taking care of that in the first place. We are still in DEBT, no jobs, disliked throughout the world...so much is still amiss here. Finding OBL might give a few dumber than dirt rednecks a hardon but it will not be that way with those people who can actually think and reason.

[Imperialism Inc.]

3. This has been asked a lot.

Some say not very much becasue it is too late etc. I personally think it would be the death knell for our chances. A lot of energy has been put in to pointing out the lack of capture.

[taxidriver]

4. if OBL is found, we are phuct. the sheeple will be appeased.

[JackDragna]

12. You got it.

The moment Bin Laden is captured is the moment the president wins all 50 states.

[atreides1]

5. 2 Things

I was watching the new early this morning and the reporter made a statement that OBL while still the head of Al Queda, might not be the one giving the orders anymore. There could be some truth in what the reporter said, OBL is a high profile target, and he is better as a figurehead then planning operations.


These are two possibilities


1. Bin Laden is killed he becomes a martyr, and then we'll see some real nasty shit happening.

2. Bin Laden is captured he still becomes a martyr, and then we'll see some real nasty shit happening.

Either way we lose

[coloradodem2005]

6. 94% of the people in polls think that this alert is politically motivated.

OBL helping them is becoming increasingly unlikely.

[CaTeacher]

8. OBL

In the Arab community, people believe that Bush can get him whenever he wants to. The rumor is that he is in Saudi Arabia (!!!) you see--that is home to him--and he has wealthy family who can hide him out in a palace--and bribe the servants etc so that no one tells on him. It is an interesting theory.

Tin foil hat time! But I half believe it. I can well imagine him home, being helped by old family and friends-plenty of money, living in palaces, sleeping in a nice bed--not a spider hole like SH.

And Bush will have to pull the right strings to get him.

I could half believe this! Many Arab friends DO believe this!!!

[milkyway]

9. I can't believe they'll come to NY without OBL. How can bush

campaign on top of 3,000 dead bodies without having the guy he said he was going to get dead or alive? It would turn the convention into a joke. Sometime before the convention, bush employee OBL will make his grand appearance. Will this be enough to save bush's ass? I don't know, but I'm afraid it might be.

[POed_Ex_Repub]

10. Well.. there'd be a good response to this...

Just play the clip where GW says he doesn't care where OBL is over and over and over again.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

11. There'll be smoke in a hole?

:shrug:

[Nevernose]

13. Yes, we're screwed

Most of the folks planning on voting Kerry/ABB will still feel that way, will be cognizant enough to ask "Why the hell didn't you capture him three years ago?"

Enough, though, will fall for the charade to screw our chances in November.

[grytpype]

14. Bush better find him before he attacks again.

Because if bin Laden gets in another big attack because Bush let him escape so he could have his increasingly unpopular war in Iraq... it may be commented upon.

[NightOwwl]

15. I wouldn't be surprised

if he's already dead.

[zmdem]

16. It won't change the election

The Bush administration has emphasized terrorism in general as the great enemy, al-Qaeda specifically. They have have, rightly, de-emphasized specific men, such as bin Laden. Therefore his capture or death, while important, will be a tactical victory not a strategic one.

Bush's re-election hinges on public perception of the Iraq situation and the economy. Both seem to be improving. The issue for Bush is whether public perception will catch up, or lag reality.

[NightOwwl]

17. Iraq situation improving?

Where are you getting this information?

[zmdem]

18. "Perception" is the keyword

Whether the interim government is successful or not, whether in the long run Iraq becomes stable and at least somewhat free is a question whose answer we will not know prior to Nov.2. The issue vis a vis our election is how the electorate perceives what the prospects are. That is different, of course, from the ultimate outcome which we do not know.

[Fovea]

19. I think that if OBL is captured

that you will see the a lot of attacks on American interests and facilities both at home and abroad. How many of the new recruits will be ready to do the one martyr per target Israeli-Palestinian campaign style attack? I suspect the answer is 'a lot.'

In essence, I think that OBL may get turned over to Bush, but that it will be a strategy that weakens royal power in SA severely destabilizing the state. Will they be willing to commit sabotage to their own oil rigs? Yes, they win when we are denied oil. Think Japan pre-WW2.

That is one reason I have been saying that oil is going up, and will keep trending up-- nothing but short term shenanigans will lower it henceforth. SA is about to catch on fire, and we don't want to be sleeping in/with it when it does. You know this drill-- it is the Sunni version of "Death to the Shah!"

Of course, we have some small problems with the Saudi Royals owning a whopping big chunk of our economy. But we can nationalize all that when the war starts. Or maybe we can just let Halliburton manage it.

When you make Bush stylee policy, nothing matters but today's tiny victory over your enemies, and stealing more money. OBL is just another FU to those who he hates, the poor, the smart, the civilized, the altruistic and truely spiritual. "See," he says. "I can con the whole world day in, day out, and you can't do jack." I can spew hate, and wrap it in the flag. I can sell a cigar box full of crap as a leather bound bible, and not offer refunds.

But yes we will wipe the little freak off the map, because Bush is not invulerable, merely delusional. They are all going down.

Cheney-Rove with Plame, Halliburton.
Ashcroft from the death of a thousand paper-cuts. Delay with redistricting/fundraising.
Rummy with Abu Ghraib, and several lawyers much beloved by Dubya.

Bush with all of the above.

Nixon's dirt looked like schoolyard pranks compared to this admin.
Even if somehow Bush did win (or get close enough to steal) the election, Without a serious insurrection, and Hynekian emergency, he is already so far in legal trouble, that he will never get out. Soon, the French court will indict a sitting VP, I suspect.

That is what Helen Thomas meant when she said Worst President Ever.