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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:17 PM
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Stupid Americans view AWOL as decisive and war hero Kerry as indecisive.
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 12:28 PM by Liberal_Guerilla
Way to support the troops assholes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5429931/
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:19 PM
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1. there is nothing good about being decisive when all the decisions
lead to a huge mess. it's much better to have someone who struggles with things and makes a decision after taking everything they can think of into account and making the best decision based on that. especially when it comes to issues of war.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:21 PM
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2. I couldn't agree more.
But in this poll, decisive is viewed as moral and bold. It's viewed as someone with balls. The last thing Bush has is balls.
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:23 PM
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5. which poll is this???
do you have a link?
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:25 PM
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7. link
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:22 PM
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4. hey, by that criterion
saddam was decisive. i mean, what does it really mean? nothing.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:22 PM
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3. Stupidhead sure is decisive about running off that cliff
But whether you're a clueless incompetent like Spurious George or a Super Genius like Wile E. Coyote, you still fall just the same.

I think a lot of voters confuse "indecisiveness" for "nuanced reflection on difficult and complex matters."
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:23 PM
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6. George Bush, Hero of the Stupid
Typical Bush* supporter
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:32 PM
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8. ...but Dubya IS decisive
He decided to desert from the TANG.
He decided to sit on his hands before 9/11.
He decided to let the Bin Laden family go WITHOUT FBI interviews.
He decided to stonewall the congressional committee investigating 9/11
He decided to lie to Congress and the American people about the reasons for going to war with Iraq.


Sounds very decisive to me :eyes:


--MAB
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:37 PM
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9. It's a total trick to called "decisiveness" intractability
We don't need a leader who is "decisive" if he decisiveness is rash, presumptuous, ignorant, blind, deceptive, manipulative and clandestine. We also don't need a leader who is "decisive" if that means committed to staying the course, even when the course is leading to a shear cliff of disaster.

One of the greatest qualities of strong leadership - in addition to a basic level of honesty and integrity - is the ability to recognize a wrong direction and be willing to LEAD the turn away from that wrong course and towards a better future. There is nothing more terrifying that the idea that we shouldn't want a leader who is so self-reflective and critical that he or she would be willing to change a stance on an issue if the circumstances warranted it.

Most of the worst disasters in this nations history have been brought about by men who "decisively" (also impulsively and irrationally) drove us to work, to oppression, to discimination, to exploitation.

Real "indecision" means having all the facts and being incapable to make a choice. Real integrity means not rushing to judgment and being willing to change your mind when you know you're wrong.

Bush has been proven dead wrong every which way, and he absolutely cannot admit that he's wrong. That's not "decisivness" - that's pathological.

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